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Nazzadan posted:Still catching up and sorry if kidney-kid was a huge derail and I'm bringing it back up, but the whole half-sibling thing is almost never a legitimate issue unless you are not raised together. If you grow up with your half sibling, by all accounts they are as much your sibling as if the same parents poo poo you both out. It's relevant because the person pushing the kidney donation the hardest is his not-father. The issue isn't the relationship he has with his sibling, the issue is that a father is more inclined to protect his progeny than somebody else's. I don't think it would be okay if his mom was the one spearheading the charge against him either, but it certainly wouldn't carry the same implications Mirthless fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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ArbitraryC posted:this thread is full of young women his daughter's age in terrible relationships with predatory dudes tho. Yeah but I don't think abstinence is going to stop that.
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therobit posted:A deaf person with an implant is still a deaf person and the "hearing" is not the same as with natural ears. One of my wife's relatives was deaf from 3 until his 50s and then got an implant. He still needs to read your lips to understand what you say. If you get a cochlear implant ASAP they're apparently pretty good, but the longer you go without the more of the hearing-related parts of your brain turn to pudding and once you've lost that capacity it's unrecoverable. The 'deaf culture' slapfight over kids is either you fix em right away and they don't grow up Deaf or you let em sit and their capacity to process sounds is hosed forever, there is no waiting or letting them sort it out when they grow up. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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I once saw someone unironically use the term "Deaf Genocide" in response to cochlear implant technology 
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therobit posted:Yes is is basically child abuse not to get it for your kid if you are able. Child abuse by any reasonable person's definition but perhaps arguable in court under the "Jehovah's Witnesses can deny their kids a transplant or transfusion" theory 
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Danaru posted:I once saw someone unironically use the term "Deaf Genocide" in response to cochlear implant technology Its a real thing I got chewed out over in real life. Also, Autism Genocide.
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Barudak posted:Its a real thing I got chewed out over in real life. Also, Autism Genocide. are those autistic people who are Pro Vaxxers BECAUSE of Jenny McCarthy?
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Barudak posted:Its a real thing I got chewed out over in real life. Also, Autism Genocide. I've seen this in real life and had minor arguments about it with my girlfriend. On the one hand, people are insulted when they feel that people are saying that they (or their children) are totally broken the way they are and need to be fixed. Apparently there is controversy over a big foundation (autism speaks, maybe) because of their "search for the cure" campaign. There's also a lot of slapfighting over how much exactly a person with severe autism should be taught/trained to minimize their unsociable behaviors. These are reasonable discussions to have. However, when someone implies that a cure for autism would be a bad thing it's usually a parent of an autistic child and it is merely a coping mechanism for them. Dealing with that as a family is absolutely life-changing for everyone involved and the idea that autism would just one day be magically cured cheapens (in their mind) what they've been through and their intense love for their child. I don't agree at all. Having worked with severely autistic individuals I think a) a cure would be an absolutely wonderful thing for humanity but is a long way off and b) medication itself is often under-utilized in this situation. I understand not wanting to drug a person up who can't necessarily consent, but their anxiety is so painful to watch I often wish I could slip them a Xanax or two and give them some loving relief which their parents refuse to do.
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isn't Autism Speaks the group of like Very Concerned liberal types who've carefully excluded any actual autistics from leadership roles in the organization because lol
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:isn't Autism Speaks the group of like Very Concerned liberal types who've carefully excluded any actual autistics from leadership roles in the organization Probably, although to be fair autistic people don't really make the best leaders, ya know?
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Barudak posted:Deaf person 1: what did the hearing person say to the other hearing person? lmao
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I Was The Fury posted:loving gross. I didn't check genders until reading your post and thought the mom was writing it. Either way, it really is gross. "No college for you, little missy, until I'm in charge of your genitalia!"
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As an autistic person with an autistic kid (both high functioning) I was absolutely pro vax to start with but Jenny McCarthy made me an angry pro vaxxer
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:isn't Autism Speaks the group of like Very Concerned liberal types who've carefully excluded any actual autistics from leadership roles in the organization because lol They also promote actively abusive practices IIRC
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Clark Nova posted:Child abuse by any reasonable person's definition but perhaps arguable in court under the "Jehovah's Witnesses can deny their kids a transplant or transfusion" theory Jehovah's witnesses cannot do that.
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Improbable Lobster posted:They also promote actively abusive practices IIRC Please elaborate.
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therobit posted:Please elaborate. I think that's a huge exaggeration but in the autism world there is always this dichotomy between allowing an autistic person to be who they are vs. helping them fit in to the larger world and be as independent and conformist (in terms of social expectations) as possible. Autism speaks is in the latter camp, and the techniques for accomplishing those goals can be controversial. I worked as an ABA technician, Applied Behavior Analysis. I've never done anything unethical but it is pretty much literally like animal training. It's the only thing that works though, some find it to be a bad thing. That might not be what they're talking about, though. Autism Speaks is also very criticized for the way they spend their money. Too much overhead and too much promotional spending. Then again some criticize them for even putting money towards finding a cure to autism so there will always be a lot of controversy in that world. e: it doesn't help that autism is extremely mysterious as far as conditions go. Very little is understood about it. I'm not super educated on the topic but I think part of the increase in autism is due to environmental factors (not vaccines but standard byproducts of an industrialized society)
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can we use autismals to power our VR networks of the future? I don't mean like the matrix or something, more like heaps of treadmills or cycle machines or something hook em right into the grid
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My (27f) husband (28m) of 8 years got 10 years in prison for meth use and dealing. I'm planning on divorcing him because I'm fed up with all his drama. This will devastate him so how do I tell him? During a visit or via letter?quote:"Antoino" has been trouble for me since I was 15. At one point I really did love him, when I was younger and more naive. This latest arrest happened two years ago and I haven't touched or not seen him behind glass since. the one right above this one was I think my [21m] girlfriend's [22f] bruschetta is terrible but she keeps making it.
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Jeff Sichoe posted:can we use autismals to power our VR networks of the future? Autismatons.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the one right above this one was I think my [21m] girlfriend's [22f] bruschetta is terrible but she keeps making it. quote:I know someone that eats their least favorite food first, to get it over with. A particular hostess now thinks that's her favorite food and always serves it to her. Don't let this be your fate. I totally do that too, I find it easier to eat whatever I would normally find least palatable if I'm hungry so I just mow through whatever side i'm not a fan of to get it out of the way without being rude. e: honestly he should just go for the long con, keep lyin for years and years and years and then bust it out in some gigantic argument. ArbitraryC fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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There's this guy on Facebook a friend exposed me to who thinks his autism makes him genetically superior to everyone around him because he is completely logical and detached from most emotions and/or doesn't understand them. He is also constantly posting insane Zionist conspiracy theory videos, casually throws around vitriolic racism, sexism and misogyny etc and writes small novels about these topics regularly, commenting on his own posts to elaborate. It's really a sight to behold.
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ArbitraryC posted:this one had a great comment: 
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ArbitraryC posted:this one had a great comment: Or even better "I love you so much I ate this thing that I hate the taste of with a smile on my face for 10 years. " To which she will reply "Then why is it so hard to reciprocate oral sex?"
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Play posted:I think that's a huge exaggeration but in the autism world there is always this dichotomy between allowing an autistic person to be who they are vs. helping them fit in to the larger world and be as independent and conformist (in terms of social expectations) as possible. Autism speaks is in the latter camp, and the techniques for accomplishing those goals can be controversial. It only looks like 'animal training' if you don't know much about it. Its operant conditioning. In other words, teaching. ABA is used to develop graduate courses and train surgeons, too. The main criticism I see with it is "B-b-b-but you are making this 5-year-old child who poses a danger to himself learn to follow instructions!"
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Who's even proud of bruschetta of all things, toast is hardly a thing you could call cooking.
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ArbitraryC posted:Who's even proud of bruschetta of all things, toast is hardly a thing you could call cooking. food nerds
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54 40 or gently caress posted:There's this guy on Facebook a friend exposed me to who thinks his autism makes him genetically superior to everyone around him because he is completely logical and detached from most emotions and/or doesn't understand them. He is also constantly posting insane Zionist conspiracy theory videos, casually throws around vitriolic racism, sexism and misogyny etc and writes small novels about these topics regularly, commenting on his own posts to elaborate. It's really a sight to behold. I remember an E/N thread where someone was advising a woman on dealing with her BEEP-BOOP MY NUMBERS ARE LOGICAL YOU ARE EMOTIONAL HOOMAN husband. They framed it as an equation where a very important set of numbers (the emotional component) gets thrown out. And no matter how small the number in an equation, if you ignore it you're going to end up with the wrong answer. I also wonder if these folks deal with clients the same way. "Mr. Brady, I know you'd really a ranch home because it reminds you of your childhood but I'm going to build a colonial because quite frankly, I find your choice illogical."
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Das Boo posted:I remember an E/N thread where someone was advising a woman on dealing with her BEEP-BOOP MY NUMBERS ARE LOGICAL YOU ARE EMOTIONAL HOOMAN husband. They framed it as an equation where a very important set of numbers (the emotional component) gets thrown out. And no matter how small the number in an equation, if you ignore it you're going to end up with the wrong answer. Most of them are not allowed near external customers for good reason.
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therobit posted:Most of them are not allowed near external customers for good reason. Oh, not even outright autistic. Just the 100% logic= 100% correct way of thinking. The dude in question was an engineer.
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therobit posted:Most of them are not allowed near external customers for good reason.
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Danaru posted:I once saw someone unironically use the term "Deaf Genocide" in response to cochlear implant technology Had a bizarre argument with a deaf guy, where he insisted he was 'superior' because he could 'sleep though thunderstorms'. When people told him that they, too could sleep through thunderstorms, and that sleeping through a dangerous one isn't always the best idea, he got angry and called everyone part of a 'Deaf Genocide'. I didn't understand it then, either.
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The deaf man I know was raised by a hearing family in the 50s and didn't even get the benefit of sign language or a school for the deaf. They just stuck him in school and told him to follow his older brother's lead. This of course lead to him being functionally illiterate but luckily he wa s able to become a machinist in a factory where he was discriminated against constantly. When he got his implant in the 90s it totally changed life for him and his family. When he gets really pissed off at his wife he shuts off his speech processor so he doesn't have to listen to her. To be fair I can't stand listening to her either though.
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Khazar-khum posted:Had a bizarre argument with a deaf guy, where he insisted he was 'superior' because he could 'sleep though thunderstorms'. When people told him that they, too could sleep through thunderstorms, and that sleeping through a dangerous one isn't always the best idea, he got angry and called everyone part of a 'Deaf Genocide'. when I was a college freshmen there was a series of arsonist fires in the freshmen dorms, none of em severe just some rear end in a top hat lighting flyers on fire or w/e, still caused full building evacs where we had to wait outside for a while to determine if everything was safe. One of them happened at ~2am and I actually almost slept through it, like we're talkin fire alarms goin people pounding on my door etc but according to my floormates it was at least 2 minutes before I woke up, not even counting the time in between the alarm and people checking on me. There was no real danger and everyone was p calm cause it happened like 6 times in 2 weeks around midterms but I still remember it and wonder what woulda happened if it was a real fire.
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Dienes posted:It only looks like 'animal training' if you don't know much about it. Its operant conditioning. In other words, teaching. ABA is used to develop graduate courses and train surgeons, too. I know plenty about it, and operant conditioning is the way animals are trained. You're completely right that it's also teaching, but the two things are not mutually exclusive. It's teaching on the only level possible in the situation, and I definitely don't agree that it's a bad thing but some people do feel that way unfortunately. I spoke to my gf about why some don't like Autism Speaks. One complaint is the lack of high-functioning autists in upper positions. The other is that people see their advertisements as scare-mongering. The ads are just ways to encourage donations for the cause so I don't agree with the complaints, but they do make the suggestion that autism is horrible and a tragedy for everyone involved. Obviously not everyone who has autism or an autistic family member can bring themselves to agree with that and I suppose I can understand that. They also focus their resources on finding a "cure" for autism when some people believe more should go to families to help them cope. Both points of view are legitimate I suppose, with the first being more optimistic. I like the point that someone made: being logical without taking into account human emotions isn't actually logical. Presumably the most logical solution to a problem takes every factor into account.
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My [39M] girlfriend [24F] went out for drinks with her friend [22M] on my birthdayquote:Off the bat, I know I'm going to sound a bit frazzled and incoherent here. Reddit is, thankfully, ripping him to shreds quote:Your title seemed like the big deal was that it was your birthday, but you can't have it both ways here. If you want your birthday to be "just another day" and you tell your SO that... it's not wrong for her to consider it just another day like you said. quote:She sounds great. You do not. Pull yourself together quote:You're dating a child because no woman your own age would put up with this sulky bullshit.
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My wife is currently studying to be a sign language interpreter, and one of the courses is Deaf Culture. As such, we've discussed these topics quite a lot. It's true that the deaf have a pretty strong sense of community. This comes from the historical repression they've experienced at the hands of the hearing. E.g. the Catholic Church has for a very long time refused to educate/school deaf people. Or another example, in Dutch the word for 'mute' is stom, a homonym which also means dumb. As such, it's no longer polite to refer to non-speaking people as such. Moreover, because people that can't speak because of other reasons (e.g. aphasia because of a stroke) aren't refered to as such. Some (not all) see the implants as a way that Deaf culture (capital D) is being eroded. In addition, an implant doesn't allow you to hear, it allows you to hear a very small subset of sounds. It was described as listening to a cheap radio that's very badly tuned. As mentioned before, if you're not getting it when very young, you'll have a lot problems adjusting as you're not used to filtering out all the different things you hear; the implant doesn't do that for you. It also expresses in other ways, like being happy for a deaf couple their child is also deaf - which seems rather strange if you're hearing. Deaf people's native language is sign language, which is why they sometimes might sound strange when writing stuff. Sign language grammar is different from what we're used to. Regarding lipreading, AFAIK you need to know the subject and even then, it's not easy. You just can't follow a random conversation. sixth and maimed fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Hey look something happy (UPDATE) I [21f] had a first date baking-date with my neighbour's grandson [24m] I don't know what to expect from here as he didn't kiss me.Updates quote:I kissed him inside the drat fort. Edit: And something infuriating I [26F] just got dumped by bf [24m] of 2 years. Now we're moving together 1500 miles away. WTF is wrong w/ me?!?! quote:So, fun story. I couple years back I landed myself in a situation where I needed to find a cheap place to stay ASAP. I ended up finding a room for rent in a huge house filled with 4 guys and one other girl. All strangers. The girl was a B, but who cares. 3 of the guys were tools, each in their own way, but T and I [ex] kinda hit it off. Fast forward a few months and T and I start the whole FWB thing and it's GREAT! That lasts about a month and we start dating. Now he's never really been the affectionate type, but he is so very, very kind. He's handsome, motivated, intelligent, the whole package. Perfect man, no joke. Buzkashi fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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sixth and maimed posted:Or another example, in Dutch the word for 'mute' is stom, a homonym which also means dumb. Ditto, English. As in "deaf, dumb and blind"
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