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Bombadilillo posted:The convenient part is you saying "If they don't use this strategy I guess they don't care about it, and if they don't care..." no im just pointing out that given what we've seen with the pc market and steam, not to mention non-video game related markets, there are definite marketing methods which reduce piracy that nintendo dont persue, meaning its reasonable to assume that the amount of piracy that affects them isnt enough to bother them or spur them into moving their model into something more focused on reducing it. they seem more worried about the impact of people streaming their games than emulators.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:15
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Stux posted:no im just pointing out that given what we've seen with the pc market and steam, not to mention non-video game related markets, there are definite marketing methods which reduce piracy that nintendo dont persue, meaning its reasonable to assume that the amount of piracy that affects them isnt enough to bother them or spur them into moving their model into something more focused on reducing it. they seem more worried about the impact of people streaming their games than emulators. No, now you are just pointing that out after a goal post move. But theres notoriously no point in arguing with you so I'll stop. Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Pirate if you want to but stop loving justifying it and just do it, pussies.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:16
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There's an argument to be made for preserving old games, but loving  if you're actually trying to justify emulating Switch games at this point
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Mar 30, 2017 17:19
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Viva Libertalia, fellow pirates. I hope this endeavor lasts for a good long while.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:19
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Bombadilillo posted:No, now you are just pointing that out after a goal post move. But theres notoriously no point in arguing with you so I'll stop. Stux posted:also we already know by this point that the best way to discourage piracy is to use lower prices and make things more affordable. nintendo prefer to go after a model where their items stay at the higher end for longer like apple, which means they probably dont worry too much about lost income from things like this. the people who are very worried about those things and want to actually stop it use a different business model. Stux posted:no im just pointing out that given what we've seen with the pc market and steam, not to mention non-video game related markets, there are definite marketing methods which reduce piracy that nintendo dont persue, meaning its reasonable to assume that the amount of piracy that affects them isnt enough to bother them or spur them into moving their model into something more focused on reducing it. they seem more worried about the impact of people streaming their games than emulators. its literally exactly what i originally said.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:19
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Takoluka posted:"Archiving a thing" and "archiving and distributing a thing for free when it is still actively, readily, and easily available for sale from its original distributor" are not the same thing. Well no, those are the same thing. Archival is archival. You don't go to a library and yell at a librarian for archiving the newspaper from last week. You seem to misunderstand me on the 2nd bit though. I want to give content creators my money, but if whatever they were selling is no longer available, I'll get it by other means. I have 3 SNES carts of Chrono Trigger. I was poor as a kid, we couldn't afford a $80 game in 1996. Bought 2 at trade shows, and the last was from the place I rented as a kid. Well, my SNES died a while back, and TV'S don't have RF input these days, so I play on an emulator now. Would I buy the poo poo out of a new SNES? Absolutely. Is Nintendo producing those? Nope. But hey, gently caress me for experiencing old stuff, am I right?
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Mar 30, 2017 17:22
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Here's my emulators story: as a child I wasn't able to have a video game system because my parents didn't like them. But I wanted to play videogames so I downloaded ZNSES and played Super Mario World and Mario RPG on my Windows 95 laptop (this was only about~12 years ago, it was an ancient crappy laptop). Being able to play those games started a love for videogames that has recently culminated in me purchasing a $300 system to play 100+ hours of a single videogame in a two week span. If it weren't for emulation I wouldn't be into videogames, and wouldn't have spent the roughly $5000 I have on videogames and consoles and PC components in the past decade.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:23
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I'm not sure how meaningful sales figures are right now, aren't they just a measure of how many Switches are being made since it's still supply limited? The bigger test is how long this supply limited period lasts.Takoluka posted:You are right, though. People deserve to be entertained, regardless of the means. If you can't afford something, you can just make a copy from someone that did. 
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Mar 30, 2017 17:24
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Pirate if you want to but stop loving justifying it and just do it, pussies.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:25
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Pikmin 2 is now on the Wii-U loving poo poo I want it but I don't want to buy it on a system I'm putting away
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Mar 30, 2017 17:28
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I'm sorry thread, I'm sure once VC launches you'll be able to play Final Fantasy V with the pirate Faris all you want, but for the meantime you'll just have to settle with going to Eventide Island.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:27
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Chef De Cuisinart posted:Well no, those are the same thing. Archival is archival. You don't go to a library and yell at a librarian for archiving the newspaper from last week. I mean cmon dude using context and common sense I'm pretty sure no one is criticizing your example.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:28
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lelandjs posted:spent the roughly $5000 I have on videogames and consoles and PC components in the past decade. Now I'm tempted to figure out what that number is for me but just doing a ballpark figure in my head has me terrified of knowing the truth. Maybe if I don't count PC builds...
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Mar 30, 2017 17:28
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i like it when they add some value to purchasing games instead of just downloading an nes rom off the internet and then telling us to pay for it something as simple as sticking a front end with global leaderboards over balloon fight would be super fun
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Mar 30, 2017 17:31
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In the end I'm not that miffed about pirates playing games for free. If they want to, that's OK. I'm paying for stuff I consider worth supporting. If they want to not pay for stuff they sure as hell can afford - and let's be honest here, emulation isn't going to fly on cheap hardware - well, so be it. That's their problem. However. What I'm not OK with are people who will crack open a system and hack online games. That's something that indirectly affects my experience of a game I purchased with my money. You gently caress with my online experience, you mess with me. poo poo like that is why PC online gaming is more or less a mess.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:36
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Not a Children posted:loving poo poo Pretty much how I feel but... it's Pikmin! 2! I want to play it now. 
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Mar 30, 2017 17:36
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I guess you could justify emulation if you can't even get a Switch. You purchase a copy of Zelda and then play your "backed up" copy on an emulator as you are legally entitled to do.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:37
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No no, if you want Assassin's Creed 4 that was on the Wii U, not the Switch.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:41
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Nephzinho posted:Now I'm tempted to figure out what that number is for me but just doing a ballpark figure in my head has me terrified of knowing the truth. Maybe if I don't count PC builds... Never, EVER look at your purchase history in Steam. You'll be shocked. I was.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:43
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who gives a poo poo even if piracy was stealing its not like any of you work for nintendo lol
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Mar 30, 2017 17:44
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StabMasterArson posted:who gives a poo poo even if piracy was stealing its not like any of you work for nintendo lol My nephew's uncle works at Nintendo
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Mar 30, 2017 17:45
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StabMasterArson posted:who gives a poo poo even if piracy was stealing its not like any of you work for nintendo lol Soon goons (Stux) feel the need to morally justify it. If Nintendo cared they've had insane sales, obviously.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:48
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Tender Bender posted:I mean cmon dude using context and common sense I'm pretty sure no one is criticizing your example. Idk, seemed like he was being sarcastic with the "people deserve to be entertained" bit. That said, where in the gently caress is Virtual Console, I need some Earthbound on the go.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:50
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Rexroom posted:In the end I'm not that miffed about pirates playing games for free. If they want to, that's OK. I'm paying for stuff I consider worth supporting. If they want to not pay for stuff they sure as hell can afford - and let's be honest here, emulation isn't going to fly on cheap hardware - well, so be it. That's their problem. PC Gaming online is not a mess. Some small titles (H1Z1, for instance) have issues because the developers dont care/can't afford a fix. With big name titles, its often console ports that have "hackers" that don't get taken care of for a while. This argument seems to come from people that don't do a majority of their MP gaming on PC. Almost all my multiplayer gaming is on PC, and I rarely run into hackers (Currently play Overwatch, Rocket League). Though, that will change with MK8D and Splatoon 2.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:51
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Back when I pirated stuff, it wasn't about money OR morals, it was because it was a superior service. It was a choice between driving 45 minutes to the game store or just staying home and downloading. Funny that now that everything can be downloaded legitimately, I'm going as physical as possible this round because of Amazon Prime.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:52
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Phantasium posted:No, see you can't watch Pirates of the Caribbean on your Switch yet because Netflix has yet to launch. Mark my words: Switch will never get Netflix What it will get is the next gen version of these beauties:  
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Mar 30, 2017 17:53
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Rexroom posted:What I'm not OK with are people who will crack open a system and hack online games. That's something that indirectly affects my experience of a game I purchased with my money. You gently caress with my online experience, you mess with me. poo poo like that is why PC online gaming is more or less a mess. Yeah I am completely indifferent on pirating but gently caress these folks
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Mar 30, 2017 17:56
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whaley posted:Yeah I am completely indifferent on pirating but gently caress these folks PC Dark Souls games have fun stuff where a guy online will hit you with a hacked sword that makes YOU gain 100 levels instantly. The server then flags YOU for clearly cheating and bans you! gently caress those guys.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:59
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I always wonder what PC games people are playing when they talk about rampant hackers since I barely ever see hackers in any game. I guess I ran into a single hacker in the 100 hours of overwatch I played.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:59
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404notfound posted:There's an argument to be made for preserving old games, but loving There are no Switch emulators and I doubt any emulators in development will be functional for several years. Regardless, hell yes I encourage Switch emulation.
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Mar 30, 2017 18:01
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Supercar Gautier posted:From what I've read, one of the legal lines around emulation is whether you do it via legitimate reverse-engineering or by working directly off of the company's internal documentation, and in fact one of the potential issues with cemu is that nobody knows whether they're doing the latter. Pretty much, yeah. This distinction came up in the latest Gaming Historian video where he went over old retail emulators that anyone interested should look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGHul1PrXCE
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Mar 30, 2017 18:02
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Bombadilillo posted:Soon goons (Stux) feel the need to morally justify it. If Nintendo cared they've had insane sales, obviously. look you can either argue your point or drop it, im not going to have a go if you just dont want to have the discussion anymore, but this sniping is absolutely needless and does nothing to contribute to the thread other than make it more hostile.
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Mar 30, 2017 18:03
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Stux posted:look you can either argue your point or drop it, im not going to have a go if you just dont want to have the discussion anymore, but this sniping is absolutely needless and does nothing to contribute to the thread other than make it more hostile. 
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Mar 30, 2017 18:03
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Oh no poor Reggie and miyamoto whatever will they do if someone emulates the switch
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Mar 30, 2017 18:13
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Got the pro controller right before I left for work. Played a few minutes with it, it's super great. Can't wait to get into Zelda with it tonight.
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Mar 30, 2017 18:20
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Nephzinho posted:Now I'm tempted to figure out what that number is for me but just doing a ballpark figure in my head has me terrified of knowing the truth. Maybe if I don't count PC builds... The build is like buying a console. If you weren't playing games you could buy a laptop that's good at browsing Twitter, composing Google docs, and reading emails. You could have bought a car or several were it not for your addiction to flickery pixels.
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Mar 30, 2017 18:26
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Empress Brosephine posted:Oh no poor Reggie and miyamoto whatever will they do if someone emulates the switch Continue swimming in their money like Scrooge McDuck.
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Mar 30, 2017 18:26
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What's the point of emulating the switch if you still need joycons to feel the ice cubes clinking around?
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Mar 30, 2017 18:27
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The next Miyamoto game will be a sandwich making game because he ordered a pizza that never came so he had to make a sandwich.
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