cargo cult posted:totally off topic but what is the technical term for churches where anyone can basaically decide that they're a pasor or clergyman or whatever. not charismatic churches, something else I don't know that I've heard of a specific term for that. There's plenty of denominations that don't require their Church leaders to attend a seminary, and someone wanting to be a pastor just has to find a church willing to hire them, then they become a pastor right then. To bring this at least tangentially back to the alt-right, one of these denominations is the African Methodist Episcopal Church, which came into the news as a result of the Charleston church shooting. A lot of their pastors do choose to attend a seminary as a matter of professional development, for example Clementa C. Pinckney attended a Lutheran seminary, but it's not a requirement. Usually, it's not required for historical reasons, where members typically did not have access to higher education (such as with the A.M.E.) or because of a certain interpretation of "the priesthood of all believers", which may be the term you're looking for. The general idea of it is that it is a Protestant belief that a member of the clergy is not necessary to have direct access to God for prayers and/or forgiveness. Some churches take it so far as to do away with the idea of a pastor entirely, and just go entirely with "lay led" services, which may also be the term you're looking for. Edit: I wonder if you're not thinking of Universalist churches, which include a lot of lay led congregations. The one locally here does have a pastor, but I know a lot do not organize themselves that way. You might also be thinking about Quakers/Friends/Religious Society of Friends, some of whom go for a lay led style as well. Azathoth has issued a correction as of 21:01 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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If you care about the bible as a cultural artefact rather than a spiritual book then you should really read the King James version. That and the works of Shakespeare are responsible for most of the common idioms, turns of phrase and metaphors that English speakers commonly use today.
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It's the version I read and it makes the other ones seem like the "children's storytime edition" so i get to feel all smart n poo poo
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cargo cult posted:totally off topic but what is the technical term for churches where anyone can basaically decide that they're a pasor or clergyman or whatever. not charismatic churches, something else fake?
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cumshitter posted:*prints out sick tweets and blog posts* I mean, it'd certainly elevate you above the herd.
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# ? Mar 31, 2017 21:47 |
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my actual professional emails are all very subtle gay sex references like bbautumnboy
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Darkman Fanpage posted:king james bible is poo poo!!!! Sorry, but it sounds awesome.
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Crowsbeak posted:Sorry, but it sounds awesome. And the Goon spake unto The Thread in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tabernacle of the congregation, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying, Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of The Thread, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls, and fucketh off.
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cargo cult posted:totally off topic but what is the technical term for churches where anyone can basaically decide that they're a pasor or clergyman or whatever. not charismatic churches, something else Protestantism? That's basically the central idea behind the Reformation.
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ken jennings follows chapo https://twitter.com/KenJennings/status/847606000404144132
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i wish i had a big brain full of trivia like ken
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I posted that in the wrong thread sorry
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MizPiz posted:Protestantism? That's basically the central idea behind the Reformation. The Lutheran church where I attend requires a bachelor's degree, a master's degree from a seminary, a year internship, approval by a candidacy committee, a psychological examination, and a criminal background check before you can start interviewing with churches, and even then, you're not officially a pastor until you convince a church to actually hire you and get the bishop to come out and do the ordination.
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Just like the real alt right we ended up at the Christian right
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spacetoaster posted:fake? I don't think he meant the word for *all* churches. cargo cult posted:totally off topic but what is the technical term for churches where anyone can basaically decide that they're a pasor or clergyman or whatever. not charismatic churches, something else My wife is an ordained minster of the Universal Life Church so she could officiate a friend's wedding. It cost her $40 for the certificate and about five minutes to fill in the forms and had the same effect as a Justice of the Peace for the day program, with the added fun of being able to call yourself a minister (and having the wedding recognized by the religious assholes who run many state governments). The Universal Life Church is the ultimate evolution of organized religion Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 00:27 on Apr 1, 2017 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i wish i had a big brain full of trivia like ken I wish I was as good at twitter as Ken.
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Not a Step posted:I don't think he meant the word for *all* churches. You don't even have to send them money, and you can call yourself anything. Our Omni-Benevolent Pope who officiated my husband's and my wedding was quite pleased with himself. In Washington you needed a clergy member (or JoP) and Pope clearly counts.
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Not a Step posted:I don't think he meant the word for *all* churches. You actually have to pay for that? I registered like a decade ago on their website and I thought that was it. I just did it because I was bored. I ended up hanging with some really stoned people like two days later and said "I'm an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church" and they legit thought I was a minister and gave me like actual respect for it until left like 15 minutes later.
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Relevant Tangent posted:You don't even have to send them money, and you can call yourself anything. Our Omni-Benevolent Pope who officiated my husband's and my wedding was quite pleased with himself. In Washington you needed a clergy member (or JoP) and Pope clearly counts. Pretty sure the money was just to register with the state to perform the ceremony. She made herself a giant pope hat and another friend sewed her a ridiculous silver cape. Our own wedding was officiated by a friend with a Universal Life Church certificate. I have no idea why anyone thinks the clergy should be qualified to do anything at all in regards to a state institution like marriage, but as long as the UCL is around its merely annoying.
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I swear to god there's a term for it like uh nonhiererachical or non ecumenical. its a fucken E word I just took a class on early christianity gently caress kafop'ekwfokaefko. non-ecclesiastical? its not maoism tho
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cargo cult posted:I swear to god there's a term for it like uh nonhiererachical or non ecumenical. its a fucken E word I just took a class on early christianity gently caress kafop'ekwfokaefko. non-ecclesiastical? its not maoism tho non-hierarchical makes sense but i don't think it's the correct term, non-ecclesiastical is it i think. (ecumenism has nothing to do with clergy, it refers to interfaith relations)
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Literal gorilla mind
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no, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, no, no
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https://twitter.com/PALE_Primate/status/848877079173230592
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well, deplorable primate is right in the name! if he isn't trolling at least he's self aware?
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triggered af https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/848593107159576578
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# ? Apr 4, 2017 18:10 |
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tbf woke brands stuff genuinely is virtue signalling but like, that's just a promo deal?
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Normally the pantshitters are crying because of race or gender swapping, not because of the original heroes.
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drat the gynocracy, is there anywhere it cant reach? it has gotten all the way into molyneux's sad, sad one man TV dinners, taunting him
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Normally the pantshitters are crying because of race or gender swapping, not because of the original heroes. these characters are literally as old as my mom = GADAUM FEMINAZIS
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The Brown Menace posted:drat the gynocracy, is there anywhere it cant reach? it has gotten all the way into molyneux's sad, sad one man TV dinners, taunting him
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Azathoth posted:Careful on that generalization. You're right that I can, as a Protestant, go found the First Church of Something Awful, call myself Rev. Azathoth, and say I'm a pastor, but individual denominations can be quite strict about the requirements for their churches. shocked someone beat lutha mahtin to a post on protestantism E: im sorry that was uncalled for ContinuityNewTimes has issued a correction as of 21:15 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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Jacobian has a neat article about alt right women https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/04/alt-right-lana-lokteff-racism-misogyny-women-feminism/ quote:When we imagine the alt-right insurgency, we likely envision an army of Richard Spencers: angry white men with fashy haircuts marching under the banner of Pepe the Frog. But this image leaves out a sizable and increasingly vocal segment of extremist right politics: women.
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The Brown Menace posted:drat the gynocracy, is there anywhere it cant reach? it has gotten all the way into molyneux's sad, sad one man TV dinners, taunting him *dips spoon into alpha-bits cereal* *alpha-bits spell out "WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO* *emits guttural scream for several hours*
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Peel posted:tbf woke brands stuff genuinely is virtue signalling because the alt right are dumb pant making GBS threads idiots who get uber sensitve about masculinty, including having super heroins on a loving pasta cup. whats funny is when i was like 3, i threw simmlar fit in a store because i couldnt get street sharks macaronie. so they are like children but dumber and worse. Uncle Wemus posted:Jacobian has a neat article about alt right women we really are living in the 2nd gilded age, arnt we. because i have read "race science" books from back then and its the same poo poo as now except maybe less "biologically" based.
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"Dapper_Swindler" posted:
Alt righters are the old money rich guy from Great Gatsby, only without the money, and half of them aren't even white.
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I kind of don't like how that article is written, because all it's doing is cataloguing the beliefs of morons. Who cares exactly what they believe?
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Here's a better version: Turns out there are dumb and gullible women who embrace social darwinism, because they think they'll be on top, don't really care about anyone but themselves, and lack the capacity to empathize with human beings as human beings. Once they're stuck in an abusive relationship with an angry racist moron, that they can't leave and are economically dependent on, maybe they'll understand the irony of oppossing muslim migration because 'sharia law', then enabling what basically amounts to white-people-sharia at home.
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rudatron posted:Once they're stuck in an abusive relationship with an angry racist moron, that they can't leave and are economically dependent on, maybe they'll understand the irony of oppossing muslim migration because 'sharia law', then enabling what basically amounts to white-people-sharia at home. There's very little reason to believe this will actually happen, because most reactionaries are pussies. I mean, they do have a reasonable expectation of being on top because society already places an extraordinary value on white women in a liberal culture.
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