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Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Sir Teabag posted:

All the ladies wanna gently caress Geralt, all of them.

They have multiple quest lines where they explicitly make fun of you for assuming that you'll get laid as a result. An elf that you save from racists and a succubus who basically says "ew no you smell like monster blood." Maybe others, but I haven't finished the game.

But yes, part of the Witcher 3 is that you will get "some".

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Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
True confessions I tried to play both Witcher 2 & 3 but just for whatever reason did not like the gameplay enough to wade through the dull open world questing.

I really did try to like it but it just never clicked with me.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Sir Teabag posted:

I guess it depends on your play style, but I found some of the leveling options to be pointless. Especially since you are limited to the amount of abilities you can have active at one time. I found that I essentially never took alchemical abilities because I would rather just be better at combat and spell casting. I did end up taking some of the ones that give you more HP or things like that, but I don't really give a poo poo about making stronger potions when I can just raise my defense or attack stats permanently instead.

Alchemy builds are secretly the Tank spec and they're ludicrously strong. They do, however, benefit from going deep into the skill tree (aside from grenades) and picking up on skill synergies in a way the other trees don't.

You also get the benefit of having visible Sith veins when you're roided out with a decoction and a dozen potions, and the potions all have their durations extended to last as long as your blood is still toxic as gently caress, which effectively means they last until long after the fight's over. And that's before getting into the stuff B&W adds.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
Witcher 1 was a surprisingly good and ambitious game for a first time developer. My main criticism is actually that the middle act was padded heavily, I think the devs mistook 'long' for 'epic'. Witcher 2 was far more concise and a huge improvement.

Witcher 3 going open world was surprising and the amount of character and story they filled it with is incredible.

The sex cards only feature in the first game and as I understand it were added very late in development. It actually features very little nudity other than on those terrible, terrible cards. There is more nudity in the other two but still not that much and it is usually far less gratuitous. if it is in the main quests then it probably makes reasonable sense why it is there.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

TKIY posted:

Sorry ME:A is a legit fun game. My Biotic Sniper is kick rear end and the action components of the game are the best Bioware has produced since Jade Empire.

please stop owning yourself with bad opinions my man

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Moola posted:

please stop owning yourself with bad opinions my man

There are no bad opinions, only gimmick posters posing as fleshless skulls.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007

Xarbala posted:

Alchemy builds are secretly the Tank spec and they're ludicrously strong. They do, however, benefit from going deep into the skill tree (aside from grenades) and picking up on skill synergies in a way the other trees don't.

You also get the benefit of having visible Sith veins when you're roided out with a decoction and a dozen potions, and the potions all have their durations extended to last as long as your blood is still toxic as gently caress, which effectively means they last until long after the fight's over. And that's before getting into the stuff B&W adds.

You make it sound like you can play as Bane. Maybe I'll give it a shot next time I play through.

Avenging Dentist posted:

They have multiple quest lines where they explicitly make fun of you for assuming that you'll get laid as a result. An elf that you save from racists and a succubus who basically says "ew no you smell like monster blood." Maybe others, but I haven't finished the game.

Ah you're right, I forgot about that one. I'm sure there are other things I'm forgetting, I started playing it around the same time my mother was diagnosed with cancer so I was heavy into the escapism but very preoccupied at the same time.

Irate Tree
Mar 12, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I just assumed the cards were there because, the story was written by someone in Denmark or Poland, where people don't give a poo poo about what sex should/shouldn't be, supposedly, maybe, no idea. That was the reasoning i ran with.

And hey, at least it doesn't restrict your choices by age. In the first area, you can bone some aging farm maid, i think.

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
Maybe I'm misremembering somewhat but in the books Geralt really isn't shacking up with every other lady he meets. If anything Dandelion is much more the ladies man and Geralt sort of above it all with more romanticized notions about love. The ideal of all of these women wanting to get in bed with the mutant (aside from ones with ulterior motives) seems mostly fan-wankery to enhance his macho badass factor.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Thankfully that stuff was dialed way back after the first game because you're absolutely right.

Geralt is more of a dorky dad trying to play up a fantasy batman persona in the third game.

Ugleb
Nov 19, 2014

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SCOTLAND'S PROPOSED TRANS LEGISLATION IS DIVISIVE AS HELL BECAUSE IT IS SO SWEEPING THAT IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY ABUSED AT A TIME WHERE THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR WOMEN HAS BEEN SO GLARING
Something I just remembered, Witcher 1 was built with the same engine as Mass Effect 1.

Back then Bioware were really starting to push the relationships angle of their games. Maybe someone on the Witcher project (I still think they worked in marketing) was looking too hard at what Bioware were doing, missed the point entirely, then insisted that their game must also have the ability to shag everything!

Possibly related, but Witcher 1 had budget troubles. I read a thing about how the studio was contracting out a side game (on the Witcher IP) for consoles that was meant to grow the brand. But the contractors kept running out of money. So CD Projekt Red gave them some more to finish. Repeatedly. It ended up being so expensive it almost broke the studio.

Maybe someone in management got really desperate to sell more copies and started grasping for cheap ways to broaden the game?

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

darnon posted:

Maybe I'm misremembering somewhat but in the books Geralt really isn't shacking up with every other lady he meets. If anything Dandelion is much more the ladies man and Geralt sort of above it all with more romanticized notions about love. The ideal of all of these women wanting to get in bed with the mutant (aside from ones with ulterior motives) seems mostly fan-wankery to enhance his macho badass factor.

Honestly it's because the games don't really follow the books that much and it's pretty clear they took a lot of pointers from other sources. Book Geralt is a really loving weird character, he's kind of a soapbox for the authors kind of vague sociopolitical beliefs. Like a combination of Elric and 80s bubsnikt era Wolverine, he's the ultimate aloof cooldude that a 14 year old would dream up. Game Geralt is honestly a much better character with a lot better motivations. It's clear whoever was writing him was taking a lot of inspiration from stuff like Name of the Wind and Leiber/Eddings/etc type of fantasy. Game Geralt is basically a critique of Book Geralt, revealing things like how his cold aloofness is really him trying to cover up insecurity and other similar ways to explore that character.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Witcher 3 is a good game, Games Workshop is becoming a better company, you can find time to play multiple tabletop games, I hoe the cat survives and finds a good home, spectralent please get banned.

Peace out.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


ijyt posted:

you can find time to play multiple tabletop games

sadly this is not always true

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

sadly this is not always true

Not trying hard enough.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Yeah who the gently caress needs relationships and kids eh?

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Not a viking posted:

Yeah who the gently caress needs relationships and kids eh?

This thread likes to blame everyone but themselves. :staredog:

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

TKIY posted:

There are no bad opinions, only gimmick posters posing as fleshless skulls.

motherfuckre Ill kill you!!


hissssssssssssssssssssss!!!

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




TKIY posted:

There are no bad opinions, only gimmick posters posing as fleshless skulls.

Moola is a skeleton IRL, please be gentle.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
Skeletons are to skin colour what bald is to hair colour.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

ijyt posted:

This thread likes to blame everyone but themselves. :staredog:

Maybe a better way to put it is "not everyone wants to prioritize table top games enough to be able to play all the games, and therefore would make a hard decision as to which one to play. In which case, they might choose one that doesn't take so much time and money to spend and provide the most amount of "fun" [gently caress I said it didn't I] per time and money spent"

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Not a viking posted:

"fun" [gently caress I said it didn't I]

enjoy your ban

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Moola posted:

enjoy your ban

Mods?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Not a viking posted:

Maybe a better way to put it is "not everyone wants to prioritize table top games enough to be able to play all the games, and therefore would make a hard decision as to which one to play. In which case, they might choose one that doesn't take so much time and money to spend and provide the most amount of "fun" [gently caress I said it didn't I] per time and money spent"

Like I said earlier, the other issue is that GW has a history of trying to push out competing games and monopolise game space. Their strategy of developing playerbases then cutting off support was specifically targeted to do that and it's going to suck for games they see as direct competitors when they do it again if GW manages to re-establish it's hegemon over plastic doll games.

I mean, maybe they won't; it's not the 90s anymore and anyone can see other games exist and arrange to play them with a quick google or whatever. But anyone who thinks that GW would never do that is clearly relying on GW not doing a lovely thing that A: they've already done before and B: worked.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

TKIY posted:

There are no bad opinions, only gimmick posters posing as fleshless skulls.

Uuuuh I'll have you know that the correct denomination is Deathrattler. TIA

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

spectralent posted:

Like I said earlier, the other issue is that GW every company ever has a history of trying to push out competing games products and monopolise game space their industry.

You don't say?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Bad Moon posted:

True confessions I tried to play both Witcher 2 & 3 but just for whatever reason did not like the gameplay enough to wade through the dull open world questing.

I really did try to like it but it just never clicked with me.

Yeah this is me too. I got to the second area of Witcher 2 and immediately got a bunch of boring MMO style quests and just totally lost interest.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

berzerkmonkey posted:

You don't say?

I mean you just described the major problem with capitalism but GW has a particular history of, for example, supplying stores/clubs with support then cutting them off when the players went majority GW to force them to play/buy at GW stores. I don't really relish the idea of losing Infinity or Deadzone if they try and pull similar poo poo with Newcromunda.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



spectralent posted:

I mean you just described the major problem with capitalism

Tell me more. :allears:

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Tell me more. :allears:

Monopolies are bad. Incentives to create monopolies encourage them. Sorry if my crazy soviet beliefs are controversial.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

spectralent posted:

I mean you just described the major problem with capitalism but GW has a particular history of, for example, supplying stores/clubs with support then cutting them off when the players went majority GW to force them to play/buy at GW stores. I don't really relish the idea of losing Infinity or Deadzone if they try and pull similar poo poo with Newcromunda.

Well, hopefully that was more a problem with the previous GW management. But here's a serious question: how much support does Mantic or Corvus Belli give stores/clubs for Deadzone or Infinity? And what kind of support is it?

I only see so much support a company can give a game - if the store owner wants a game to thrive, he's going to have to do some promotion as well, and not just rely on the company to be sending a steady stream of trinkets. GW doesn't have to step in for the store or club to say "Hey - we're going to have an event next month!"

Maybe it's just my group, but I don't understand the constant cry for "store support or my game will die!" from gamers. If the company is putting out new models, rules, units, whatever, then I don't see how they are not supporting the game. Even if they don't support the game, you can still play - my group plays quite a few "dead" games.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



spectralent posted:

Monopolies are bad. Incentives to create monopolies encourage them. Sorry if my crazy soviet beliefs are controversial.

:)

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Moola posted:

enjoy your ban

Get a spinal column, you bonedeathlerrattleblight.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

berzerkmonkey posted:

Well, hopefully that was more a problem with the previous GW management. But here's a serious question: how much support does Mantic or Corvus Belli give stores/clubs for Deadzone or Infinity? And what kind of support is it?

I only see so much support a company can give a game - if the store owner wants a game to thrive, he's going to have to do some promotion as well, and not just rely on the company to be sending a steady stream of trinkets. GW doesn't have to step in for the store or club to say "Hey - we're going to have an event next month!"

Maybe it's just my group, but I don't understand the constant cry for "store support or my game will die!" from gamers. If the company is putting out new models, rules, units, whatever, then I don't see how they are not supporting the game. Even if they don't support the game, you can still play - my group plays quite a few "dead" games.

I have no idea, Deadzone-wise, but I've been pretty impressed with the stuff Infinity's done with store support. Limited/promotional miniatures go through stores, they supply promotional kit (minis, tokens, badges, etc) and rules for tournaments (which they create rules packs for, too), and I believe they provide either an escalation structure or at least independent tournament promo stuff (I have a little ALEPH badge I've got sat next to some of my other models that must be from them). They also maintain both a really exhaustive wiki and online (and phone-app) list-builders which, while not store support, are certainly a nice community resource.

Support for stores is ultimately going to matter for what a store wants to sell. You can promote anything but making it easier to promote stuff is going to make it more likely someone will. Why would you want to run an event for GW if you have no previous goodwill towards them and no interest in building their community for them? New miniatures are only good in that respect in as much as people actually want to stock stuff and there's a distinct lack of goodwill (at least in the stores I speak to) after how bad the static inventory was on the sigmar launch.

As for dead games, yeah, you can play them in groups, but unless you had a really massive game to begin with (and I think a lot of GW specialist games are the only ones that come to mind here) you're not going to have any growth. Players will get bored and move on for whatever reason and the group'll dwindle. Hell, necromunda is a popular game the community took over and I still remember that happening to it where I used to live to the point where it stopped being possible to find regular games.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

spectralent posted:

I have no idea, Deadzone-wise, but I've been pretty impressed with the stuff Infinity's done with store support. Limited/promotional miniatures go through stores, they supply promotional kit (minis, tokens, badges, etc) and rules for tournaments (which they create rules packs for, too), and I believe they provide either an escalation structure or at least independent tournament promo stuff (I have a little ALEPH badge I've got sat next to some of my other models that must be from them). They also maintain both a really exhaustive wiki and online (and phone-app) list-builders which, while not store support, are certainly a nice community resource.
That's cool. I don't' see any Infinity being played in my area, so I obviously also don't get to see any of the behind the scenes stuff.

spectralent posted:

Support for stores is ultimately going to matter for what a store wants to sell. You can promote anything but making it easier to promote stuff is going to make it more likely someone will. Why would you want to run an event for GW if you have no previous goodwill towards them and no interest in building their community for them?
True, but even of the company sends you prize support, special scenarios, etc, you still have to do their work for them. Everyone has pretty much done away with Outriders, so the onus is on the stores or clubs to do the pushing. And you need to push it, if you want the sales.

spectralent posted:

Hell, necromunda is a popular game the community took over and I still remember that happening to it where I used to live to the point where it stopped being possible to find regular games.
Do you mean you couldn't find games of "regular" NM? I mean, it's not the rules committee created a whole new game - they made some changes (and it seems to be many of them found their way into SWA) and freely provided the updated rules. Granted, you may not have liked the changes, but it's not like it would have been difficult to adapt to them.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Bistromatic posted:

Skeletons are to skin colour what bald is to hair colour.

Excuse me, Moola is not nearly as fabulous as Patrick Stewart.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



TKIY posted:

Get a spinal column, you bonedeathlerrattleblight.

gonna need you to dial this racism way back

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Cat Face Joe posted:

gonna need you to dial this racism way back

loving Skeltal Lives Matter. Doot doot your way back to Skullfrica!

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Moola
Aug 16, 2006
I thought this was a skelly safe place...

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