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What a wide man he is.
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That really does look like those parodies of 90s superheroes that showed up in Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. All he's missing is a glowing eye and a Gambit headsock.
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Apr 8, 2017 01:11
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Oh, this is what Mr. Huge did before Buttlord GT
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Apr 8, 2017 01:14
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Class 25 if he could move. So class 0 then?
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Apr 8, 2017 01:19
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These Handbook entries are good for their attributes and stuff but they lack a small "What's their deal?" section. What's the Power Broker's deal? What does he get up to? When I saw his name I remembered that character from the BBC show The Misfits who was literally a broker of superpowers.
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Apr 8, 2017 01:25
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It's hard to tell from the bio if this is the same guy, but there was a Power Broker who was involved with the underground super-wrestling league, and he would give his wrestlers, and later random crooks, super-powers, usually generic super strength and toughness. He's the guy who gave D-Man his powers, and a couple of nobody villains owe their origin to him. The bio certainly does seem to imply it's the same guy, and I guess he used the D-man treatment on himself to the nth degree to turn into that slab of meat.
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Apr 8, 2017 01:29
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The Power Broker was a dude who gave people super-strength in exchange for money. D-Man, USAgent, Battlestar, Ms. Marvel II, a whole bunch of random D-list bad guys, they all got their powers from the Power Broker. Usually he also then blackmailed them and/or hooked them on drugs while he was at it, just in case he wasn't being a big enough dick. Then his operation got attacked by Scourge and he tried to give himself super-powers only things went wrong and he ended up so muscular that he couldn't, you know, move. Thus, the weird-rear end exoskeleton thing.
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Apr 8, 2017 01:31
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Isn't there a whole thing with how some of their treatments didn't work and instead turned the subjects into horribly disfigured monsters?
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Apr 8, 2017 02:36
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What are "tongue controls"
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Apr 8, 2017 18:05
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RandallODim posted:What are "tongue controls" Something like this, I imagine: 
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Apr 8, 2017 18:09
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Pastry of the Year posted:Something like this, I imagine: That's loving awesome
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Apr 8, 2017 18:39
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What if you need to press A+B at the same time? Do you have to learn circular breathing like a didgiridoo player?
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Apr 8, 2017 19:17
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I really don't understand how an exoskeleton helps him move if the problem is him being too musclebound/bulky.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:09
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It provides enough additional power to move all the mass. His gait is probably hella funny though.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:18
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I'm working my way through Gruenwald's Captain America primarily because of this thread, and while it doesn't make a ton of sense in the comic either, Power Broker's exoskeleton in the comic was a lot more like... I guess the power loader thing in Aliens? The "hands" were not mapped directly to his big beefy hands, but sort of an extended robotic hand past his that allowed him to work machines and pick things up. His big beefy legs couldn't walk, he just had little rocket boots. I don't know how he moved his arms though. And yeah, the weird set-up of Power Broker's Power Giving was basically: Some people would get super powers and some people would get turned into monsters (as seen on the cover of this issue I bought as a very little kid)  Unbeknownst to all of the successful powered-people, the "failed" power-ups just got dumped into the sewer. All of the people who got powers were told they had to take a special pill from the Power Broker to keep their powers stable, let they turn into rampaging brutes, because this whole thing was set up to be a weird allegory for steroids in professional wrestling initially. Later in GruCap it's revealed that actually you can have Power Broker powers forever just fine, the pill was some sort of... I don't know what, but it was just a drug entirely unrelated to the powers that he made everyone take so they'd have heroin-withdrawal style freak-outs if they didn't come back to get it from him on the regular, but this allowed all of the people powered-up by him (which was like half the supporting cast of GruCap at that point) keep being superheroes after they take him down. Then there was a follow-up story where a bunch of the Z-listers with Power Broker powers got kidnapped to be used as depowering-guinea pigs to "get it right" when Power Broker gets depowered. Most of them turned into misshapen (but mentally intact) jelly blobs and poo poo, but then USAgent bursts in, makes PB/Malus turn them all back into normal humans off-panel, then smashes the machine to poo poo before Power Broker can cure himself. Because USAgent was kind of an rear end in a top hat even after he stopped being insane.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:22
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Oh poo poo, I just remembered that USAgent got his powers from the Power Broker too. He was a pro wrestler in Power Broker's league, and then decided to become a patriotic superhero for the publicity and money, under the name Super-Patriot. I think his buddies, Battlestar, Right-Winger and Left-Winger got the same deal, too.
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Apr 8, 2017 22:04
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In the Gruenwald Cap run, there were some backup stories about Battle Star getting kidnapped and depowered, but eventually breaking out of Power Broker's dungeon and repowering himself to break everyone else out. But I don't think anyone remembers Battle Star.
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Apr 9, 2017 00:39
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From the BSS Movie thread:Lobok posted:You should probably do Starhawk as a Handbook entry then! OK! Day 48: Starhawk Starhawk is an original member of the Guardians of the Galaxy. The version from far in the future. He is the son of Quasar and Ayesha/Kismet/Her that you may remember from the Adam Warlock entry. Or at least a future version of those characters. He also weighs 450 lbs according to this sheet. Oh and more recently sometimes he's a woman. Not to be confused with his sister Aleta who is also sometimes known as Starhawk.  
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Apr 9, 2017 00:58
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So his adopted sister is his wife, and also fused with him into a single being? That is some advanced level fuckery.
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Apr 9, 2017 01:09
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"Ok, True Believers! Don't Miss Next Issue! Captain America is Destroyed Forever! No Tricks! No Fooling! No Refunds!" ... *Starhawk's ship Captain America blows up*
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Apr 9, 2017 01:22
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goatface posted:So his adopted sister is his wife, and also fused with him into a single being? I hear that's the plot of Flash Season 5.
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Apr 9, 2017 01:25
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Lobok posted:"Ok, True Believers! Don't Miss Next Issue! Captain America is Destroyed Forever! No Tricks! No Fooling! No Refunds!" I always found it neat how the far future guardians of the galaxy were inspired by classic Marvel heroes, especially Cap.
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Apr 9, 2017 01:28
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TripleU posted:In the Gruenwald Cap run, there were some backup stories about Battle Star getting kidnapped and depowered, but eventually breaking out of Power Broker's dungeon and repowering himself to break everyone else out. But I don't think anyone remembers Battle Star. He was just in Sam's Captain America book. He showed up to wrestle D-Man at a special anniversary reunion show. I always kind of appreciated how Battle Star has consistently just been a Good Dude in everything he shows up in. I was paranoid they were going to kill him when he appeared in Marvel Zombies Supreme, but he made it through.
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Apr 9, 2017 02:23
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X-O posted:I hear that's the plot of Flash Season 5.
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Apr 9, 2017 02:28
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goatface posted:So his adopted sister is his wife, and also fused with him into a single being? Jim Starlin...
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Apr 9, 2017 03:26
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Fun fact, I don't think Jim Starlin ever wrote the character of Starhawk, or Guardians of the Galaxy. But I don't remember Starhawk's hosed up history enough to know if all of this was part of Steve Gerber's early run, something weird Jim Valentino cooked up as a retcon, or something some other weirdo the used them in between. Definitely not Starlin though. Also TripleU come on, Lurdiak and I explicitly mention Battlestar (ex-BUCkies, Bold Urban Commandos) in the posts directly above yours, I even specifically mention the story you cited.
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Apr 9, 2017 04:35
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I feel like "sub-light speed flight" is too general and too specific at the same time
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Apr 9, 2017 06:29
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Power Broker was responsible for so many people getting powers that I've knkwn about the name for ages. Never seen him before though. It's a look, I'll give him that.
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Apr 9, 2017 14:18
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Edge & Christian posted:Fun fact, I don't think Jim Starlin ever wrote the character of Starhawk, or Guardians of the Galaxy. But I don't remember Starhawk's hosed up history enough to know if all of this was part of Steve Gerber's early run, something weird Jim Valentino cooked up as a retcon, or something some other weirdo the used them in between. It was Steve Gerber. The first comic I ever owned was Marvel Presents #10, which was part 2 of Starhawk’s origin.
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Apr 9, 2017 14:41
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Day 49: Squadron Supreme I think most are familiar with the concept of Squadron Supreme and how they are analogues to the Justice League. The 12 issue series from Gruenwald is still one of my favorite Marvel books from that era.   Skylark is based on a combination of Black Canary and Hawkgirl I couldn't find an individual entry for her. Shape is based on Plastic Man   Dr. Spectrum is based on Green Lantern   Hyperion is based on Superman   Power Princess is based on Wonder Woman   Whizzer is based on Flash   Haywire is based on Vibe   Moonglow is based on Gypsy  
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Apr 10, 2017 00:22
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Edge & Christian posted:Also TripleU come on, Lurdiak and I explicitly mention Battlestar (ex-BUCkies, Bold Urban Commandos) in the posts directly above yours, I even specifically mention the story you cited. I ain't got my glasses on but I ain't see it -- just mentions of Left-Winger and Right-Winger. My bad! Loving this thread, regardless.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:00
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X-O posted:Day 49: Squadron Supreme Nightbatmanhawk is conspicuously absent from that lineup. Did they want to avoid confusion with the 616 Nighthawk? (aka the only OG Squadron Sinister member that ever went sort of anywhere)
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Apr 10, 2017 01:03
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Why the hell would you name a piss yellow guy Whizzer? Or if the name came first, why make him piss yellow?
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Apr 10, 2017 01:14
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Maybe they were taking the piss?
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Apr 10, 2017 01:16
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Lurdiak posted:Nightbatmanhawk is conspicuously absent from that lineup. Did they want to avoid confusion with the 616 Nighthawk? (aka the only OG Squadron Sinister member that ever went sort of anywhere) A lot of characters died at the end of the 12-issue miniseries, including Nighthawk, and that lineup seems to only consist of the survivors.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:43
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Lurdiak posted:Nightbatmanhawk is conspicuously absent from that lineup. Did they want to avoid confusion with the 616 Nighthawk? (aka the only OG Squadron Sinister member that ever went sort of anywhere) He's no longer on this iteration of the team. He resigned and is opposed to them in the series. Both Nighthawks are in the Handbook though and we'll get to them eventually. I only included the ones on the team here.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:46
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He's actually a double-reference. Note he's credited as Whizzer II - this is because The Whizzer was one of Marvel's original golden age heroes who was also the father of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (until his babies were retconned into being still births so Magneto could be Quicksilver's dad because they both had similar hair). Piss yellow whizzer is a legacy character.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:50
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X-O posted:Skylark is based on a combination of Black Canary and Hawkgirl Note that Skylark was originally Lady Lark, a more direct Black Canary clone, who was involved with the Squadron's Hawkman clone; when he died, she took his wings as an homage to him and became Skylark.
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Apr 10, 2017 02:24
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Note that Skylark was originally Lady Lark, a more direct Black Canary clone, who was involved with the Squadron's Hawkman clone; when he died, she took his wings as an homage to him and became Skylark. Yeah when she was Lady Lark she was also with Golden Archer. I'm sure you all can guess who he was based on. There's lots of other members like Tom Thumb, Nuke, Amphibian, etc. This is basically the team as it was at the time of the Handbook printing.
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X-O posted:Yeah when she was Lady Lark she was also with Golden Archer. I'm sure you all can guess who he was based on.
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