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White Rabbit posted:Ok! I dont own the game and I've never played a Persona / SMT game ever. Barely ever touched the FF series either. Still I'm very interested in any game that gathers such great opinions so I'm just about to give P5 a try. I'm playing on Hard and I would say go for that if you really want a "HARD" game. There's no stat min-maxing or anything, just expect a lot of moments where half your party is dead and you end up sitting in the battle menu for three minutes scrolling through every available option trying to squeeze out a victory. The game does give you a ton of tools and gameplay aspects to get out of bad situations
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Bardeh posted:I can see gifts in shops but I've never gotten a tutorial about using them so I assumed they were gated or something. But I've just finished the 3rd palace and still haven't gotten any indication that I can use them yet. Are they only for later ranks in slinks or should I buy some now? You can use em during non-progress S.Links for some a couple characters. Like when you're just hanging out without a scene, but do have some dialog. I'm pretty sure I've only been able to gift to chicks but that may be a coincidence?
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totalnewbie posted:"super salty" thanks localization team. Someone knows their audience.
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White Rabbit posted:Ok! I dont own the game and I've never played a Persona / SMT game ever. Barely ever touched the FF series either. Still I'm very interested in any game that gathers such great opinions so I'm just about to give P5 a try. There's definitely scope for skill to make the game easier, but it's more along the lines of experimentation with the Personas and their various skills and enemy weaknesses than any real mechanical skill. Grinding is possible and will make the game easier, but it can feel like some deaths are just RNG bullshit when you miss an important attack and then the enemy crits you/hits your Personas weakness for a free attack and then wrecks you with no possible recourse. It's rare that stuff like this will lead to a game over, but it does happen. The game is also extremely story/cutscene heavy, and while there is plenty of dungeon-delving action, its split up sometimes by an hour+ of talking that is barely interactive. I don't say this because I dislike it, don't get me wrong. This is my first persona game and I'm absolutely loving it, but the examples you gave in your post led me to think that it might be a dealbreaker for you. Having said all that, I would probably recommend this game to anyone because the more you play it the more you realize the absolutely ridiculous amount of talent and hard work that has gone into it, and I've never played anything quite like it. Bardeh fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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hyphz posted:The thing where the whole party dies if Joker dies, even if you have Revive items in inventory, is straight up rear end. It makes the enemy's apparently-random target selection become critical to party survival.
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so is there a place to get homunculi? I'm starting up the fourth dungeon and have heard some things about it...
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hyphz posted:The thing where the whole party dies if Joker dies, even if you have Revive items in inventory, is straight up rear end. It makes the enemy's apparently-random target selection become critical to party survival. The fact that he's been sexually harassing the girls is repeated again and again, so I'm not quite sure where you're coming from with this. It's deliberately ambiguous as to whether Shiho was actually raped or not, but by the point she attempts suicide the nitty gritty of his individual crimes aren't the point. He's a predator who's been preying on young girls with an obviously sexually motive.
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I'm coming up on my first romance option, and so far the result of going full P4 harem style appears to be: * You get an extra scene * You miss an item that lets you rank up a single girl faster in NG+ Am I wrong on this? Is there any further reason to not go for full scumbag glory? Endorph posted:Uh, did you miss the part where he explicitly says he sexually abused girls in his confession? Granted I may not be remembering correctly, but I heard "harassed". That wording matches up with what the other characters are saying. Give it another week and I'm pretty sure he'd be confessing to both, though.
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It's not like the specifics of whether she was or not is the deal breaker between making that dude a piece of poo poo or a decent fella. It doesn't need spelling out.
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Even if he didn't rape Shiho, he DID also confess very explicitly to attempting to rape Ann, which then gets repeated about a half-dozen times, so you really have to not be paying attention to miss that.
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o you not know what sexually harassed means
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I love that Ryuji was real hesitant to kill Kamoshida which like, yeah fair I guess, but the second Shiho tries to kill herself and he get Ann's side of the story, it just all goes full Ivan Drogo "If He Dies.....He Dies" Also I'm still only in May but Ann just standing there with Carmen appearing behind her to just incinerate Shadow Kamoshida is the hypest poo poo
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I wish I had realized sooner that finishing encounters with talking gives less exp than using the all out attack. I was wondering why my level wasn't going up much when fighting groups of enemies.
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maybe I'm misremembering how Persona 4 was but I'm only into late May and all anyone texts me about is the loving Palace every god dang day. Was it this was in the previous game where you couldn't really do stuff with the rest of your buddies until a bit later? I don't think I've had the opportunity to do a single social link with Ann even once. Also Yosuke > Yusuke what a loving weirdo
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Negotiation gives you the EXP for that demon and nothing else. If you kill everything except one and then negotiate, you get the full EXP and only miss out on the yen and drop attempt of the last one, which doesn't matter that much in practice.
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MinibarMatchman posted:maybe I'm misremembering how Persona 4 was but I'm only into late May and all anyone texts me about is the loving Palace every god dang day. Was it this was in the previous game where you couldn't really do stuff with the rest of your buddies until a bit later? I don't think I've had the opportunity to do a single social link with Ann even once.
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MinibarMatchman posted:maybe I'm misremembering how Persona 4 was but I'm only into late May and all anyone texts me about is the loving Palace every god dang day. Was it this was in the previous game where you couldn't really do stuff with the rest of your buddies until a bit later? I don't think I've had the opportunity to do a single social link with Ann even once. Also Tae texts me all the time in class and it feels inappropriate, please stop ma'am e: also I thought the Yusuke thing would be so much worse given the way people were talking about it, but was relieved it was just Yusuke being a weird art dude cause he's lived in this lovely artist hovel with a lovely artist man for fourteen years
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I wanna say they were called blazers because they were made out of hemp, but I don't want to miss out on that knowledge boost.
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Moltrey posted:You don't need people to text you to go hang out with them, but also I get texts from Ryuji and Ann like every dang day to do stuff. Like one time Ryuji texted after I went to sleep to do something. Ann in particular needs Rank 2 Kindness I think to start so that might be what's holding you up there Where does everyone stay, I don't see them on the map. I think Ryuji is in a school hall but I've never seen Ann anywhere.
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Ryuji's by the stairs just outside your classroom, yeah. Ann's in the Underground Mall at Shibuya; just quick travel there and she's right in front of you.
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MinibarMatchman posted:Where does everyone stay, I don't see them on the map. I think Ryuji is in a school hall but I've never seen Ann anywhere. the op has good information
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Ann's either in class with you or she's in the Shibuya Underground Mall, checking out one of the stores.
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I've read that if you haven't actually finished the palace yet, your team members may be less likely to show as available to hang out. I believe it was similar for P4 if someone was trapped in the TV, people would potentially not be available on scheduled days.
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Part of me honestly misses the Persona 3 "Oh sorry, can't go to Tartarus today because I got a test tomorrow or I'm sick or w/e" like it was super dumb actually, but I like the idea that idk Akihiko's got stuff going on outside of just climbing a tower with me
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Electric Phantasm posted:I wanna say they were called blazers because they were made out of hemp, but I don't want to miss out on that knowledge boost.
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g0lbez posted:I'm playing on Hard and I would say go for that if you really want a "HARD" game. There's no stat min-maxing or anything, just expect a lot of moments where half your party is dead and you end up sitting in the battle menu for three minutes scrolling through every available option trying to squeeze out a victory. The game does give you a ton of tools and gameplay aspects to get out of bad situations To be fair, this has mostly been my experience on normal too. Like all SMT games, every battle has the capacity to utterly gently caress you if you get a stroke of bad luck, and boss fights get very punishing if you bring in the wrong party member. I'm thinking of the fourth Palace boss specifically on that one. EDIT: Of the 3 "new age" Persona games, I'd wager to say that 5 has thus far been the hardest. P4 gets pretty manageable once you clear the castle, and by the time you beat the Bathhouse you've unlocked a good amount of S-links, Personas and skills to be able to address much of the game's challenges up to and through the final dungeon, where the difficulty spikes a little bit in anticipation of the final boss. The big bosses also remained pretty hard. P3 is really loving hard at times, but it's hard to rank it fairly because a lot of its difficulty came initially from the fact you can't control your party members. The PSP version's direct control makes some bosses way too easy, but they also compensated for this by adding a poo poo ton of bonus bosses that are really high level. Come to think of it, as well, the Answer is probably the hardest Persona content we've gotten. 8-Bit Scholar fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Apr 9, 2017 |
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Moltrey posted:idk Akihiko's got stuff going on outside of just climbing a tower with me  maybe not, tbh also looking back at this, just look at the progress made on the UI front. god-drat.
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I see Akihiko has yet to grasp the real question to be asked.
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7th Palace: A hearty lmao at Akechi asking Makoto what could possibly have driven Sae to become this way and then when Makoto explains it and reveals a bunch of personal information he just goes, eh, not really the time to be getting sentimental and moves on.
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Shinjiro is best Persona 3 boy
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Someone told me they have a Rise poster in their room and I need to know how to get ASAP All I have for room decorations is a fake bowl of ramen Ryuji gave me.... Josuke Higashikata posted:
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i just realised i failed to romance takemi because i made the wrong dialogue option....three hours ago 
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Moltrey posted:Someone told me they have a Rise poster in their room and I need to know how to get ASAP It's fun when you clutter your room up with gifts from friends and the Phantom Thieves are having a serious mission while you have a chocolate fountain spouting off in the corner
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Moltrey posted:Someone told me they have a Rise poster in their room and I need to know how to get ASAP Is that the poster of the schoolgirl looking all pensive? Ann gives it to you if you go with her when she invites you for a day out at some point.
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I gotta appreciate how many opportunities they give you to poo poo on Yuuki.
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Harlock posted:Raise social link with Ann and go to Shinjuku iirc Dan Didio posted:Is that the poster of the schoolgirl looking all pensive? Ann gives it to you if you go with her when she invites you for a day out at some point. Apparently you can get like Jack Frost dolls at the arcade but I aint wasting time at the arcade to MAYBE get a Jack Frost doll Harlock posted:have a chocolate fountain spouting off in the corner
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Moltrey posted:wait what That's another Ann one, if you take her back to the place where you had the big buffet to celebrate.
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jesus christ ann "hey for being cool friends with me, i got you this idol poster and an actual chocolate fountain"
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