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I wish I could find the article where Dave is praised by "legitimate" sports reporters for how good he is.
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Apr 9, 2017 23:20
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Demtor posted:gently caress JBL forever. This whole situation makes me want to not support the wwe at all anymore. Dave is right to be pissed. How everyone else is handling the situation is just atrocious.
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Apr 9, 2017 23:26
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CascadeBeta posted:This whole situation makes me want to not support the wwe at all anymore. Dave is right to be pissed. How everyone else is handling the situation is just atrocious. Not to bite MRT's gimmick but they've been trash monsters forever
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Apr 9, 2017 23:29
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Yeah, if anything the only thing that's different here is ESPN and other outlets/reporters are actually being called out for washing their balls and looking the other way re: taking them to task for not punishing JBL
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Apr 9, 2017 23:31
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Not to bite MRT's gimmick but they've been trash monsters forever Yeah you have to either sit down and admit they are a garbage company and stop supporting it at all, or just admit you don't mind supporting a garbage company.
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Apr 9, 2017 23:32
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I didn't realize how garbage they were. I naively thought it was mostly in the past, even with the Bill DeMott stuff.
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Apr 9, 2017 23:54
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Mad Dave was great. I know he has plenty of other stuff that he could get mad about but probably doesn't for various reasons, but that he just sort of let himself go full speed San Jose Steamroller was really special.
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St Evan Echoes posted:I really thought Dave was about to review the schoolyard fight for a second Me too!! Man Dave was great today. The WWE is awful.
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CascadeBeta posted:I didn't realize how garbage they were. I naively thought it was mostly in the past, even with the Bill DeMott stuff. Imagine a company so lovely that freezing Danielson's contract for months because they wouldn't clear him isn't even in the top 5 of lovely things they've done recently.
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MassRafTer posted:Imagine a company so lovely that freezing Danielson's contract for months because they wouldn't clear him isn't even in the top 5 of lovely things they've done recently. Hell, there's at least an argument that that was PARTLY from a good place in the sense of protecting his health (on top of protecting their image if something bad happened AND stopping ROH or New Japan from profitting off of 'their' star) On a different note, I was clearing off my computer and found the TIJ with Matt in full kayfabe Broken mode so I loaded it up to listen again for fun, and there's something amusing to me about how the original Broken angle hinged around Matt owning Jeff's IP, given what's happened with the whole Broken character lately.
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New Between The Sheets! https://soundcloud.com/btspod/ep-89-april-5-11-1999/ Kris & David are guestless this week, discussing the week that was April 5-11, 1999. We talk about the possibility of RAW & Nitro running Atlanta on the same night going down the drain, a pretty fun New Japan Tokyo Dome show featuring Atsushi Onita, Lance Storm getting urine thrown on him, Mr. Corey loving Michael Hayes in Power Pro, and an epic WCW section filled with WCW stupidity at it's finest. This show is filled with greatness so listen now!!!!! Timestamps: 0:00:00 WWF 1:06:26 Japan: AJPW, NJPW, MUGA, BJPW, IWA Japan, Arsion, JWP, Pride, & UWA 1:59:58 Classic Commercial Break 2:02:46 Housekeeping & The Amazon Game 2:47:43 Mexico: AAA, EMLL, IWRG, & Tijuana 3:02:57 Northeast USA: JAPW, ECW, & MCW 3:40:29 Southern USA (OVW, Memphis Power Pro, & IWAMS) & Potpourri 4:37:16 WCW To support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows! You can also support the show by shopping with our Amazon referral link at TinyURL.com/BTSAmazon — Nothing extra comes out of your wallet, but Amazon gives us a kickback for referring you to them. To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.
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MassRafTer posted:Imagine a company so lovely that freezing Danielson's contract for months because they wouldn't clear him isn't even in the top 5 of lovely things they've done recently. Refusing to pay for MRIs https://twitter.com/RealSummerWWE/status/849077298393485315
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rovert posted:Refusing to pay for MRIs https://twitter.com/RealSummerWWE/status/849077298393485315 The last time Emma was on TV was like a month ago! 
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I listened to Stone Cold's review of Mania today. I'm not a regular listener so I don't know who that co-host of his is, but when he went on his big rant about how Bray's ring projection thing was stupid it really pissed me off. A lot of people think its stupid because it's dumb and goofy, which I can respect, but thinking it's stupid because its nonsensical for the wrestler to have this magical power and its obviously just some thing the guys in the truck do with projectors that only little children could find exciting is the opinion of an rear end in a top hat. Did he think that Kane's fire in the ringposts was a poo poo gimmick that ruined the character because it was obviously the ring workers stuffing flash paper down in there not Kane actually having fire powers? Considering how much that same guy was fellating Undertaker for having one of the greatest gimmicks and characters in wrestling history later in the show, I'd love to hear him tell Steve that the time Taker crucified him was the dumbest segment in Raw history because obviously that whole thing was the work of WWE's crane operators and effects crew rather than anything Taker was doing. I'm sick of this double-standard that pundits apply to Bray's gimmick. Say that it doesn't work because he's not over enough or his credibility has been damaged by his poo poo booking or the writing or Bray's performances are failing to sell the character, but don't shovel poo poo about how Bray isn't acceptable to wrestling fans because its too hokey on the same PPV where 70,000 people payed homage to the retirement of a Zombie Wizard and the biggest pop of the night was for a dimension-hopping supervillain and his mind-slave brother.
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Apr 10, 2017 10:44
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it's really weird that of all things that's what you took away from it
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The maggots were stupid as gently caress though. I've never laughed that hard at wrestling in my life.
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seriously even by supernatural wrestling gimmick standards it was bad. if undertaker or kane had done that exact thing in the past it would be remembered as a joke.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:00
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Does anyone have the timestamp for when Dave talks about the JBL stuff?
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I really liked the maggots in theory; I just felt like that should have been the finish. Doing it multiple times was done and ruined the effect. If he'd done it once, it distracted Orton and he'd been able to hit Sister Abigail and win it would have been fine. Doing it more than once and having it not lead to the finish was what killed it for me. Complaining about how you know it's the work of the guy in the truck, that's dumb. I haven't listened to Stone Cold's podcast in a while, when did he get a cohost? Also the problem you're describing is not uncommon where these unknown cohosts end up talking over the person you're trying to listen to on a show. Junpei Hyde posted:Does anyone have the timestamp for when Dave talks about the JBL stuff? It's right at the beginning, maybe 5-10 minutes in. Cardboard Box posted:seriously even by supernatural wrestling gimmick standards it was bad. if undertaker or kane had done that exact thing in the past it would be remembered as a joke. Still better than the time Taker hung Bossman with the help of the Brood, which I bring up because that was at a Wrestlemania. Also the time Undertaker had his Batman inspired entrance, that's probably the lamest UT thing I can think of. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Cardboard Box posted:it's really weird that of all things that's what you took away from it I thought Steve's critiques of Bray were quite on-point, particularly in the style of his ringwork and overplaying the laughing maniac without getting menace across. I thought Whoever Guy had some smart things to say about Orton and what he should be doing and what he's not capable of doing in the overall structure of the promotion. But the guys' remarks about Bray's worm projections were bullshit because he framed them in terms of wrestling fans being able to see through fantastical gimmicks as a thing the guys in the trucks do instead of a thing the wrestler does in the same show he was jacking off Undertaker for having an all-time great gimmick. There's also how he brought up Bray not "protecting the character," vis a vis social media when he's better at that then almost anyone else on the roster, including loving Kane who advertises his real estate business on his twitter. It's a bullshit double-standard that puts the failures of the Bray Wyatt character on the very concept of characters like him not being viable when there is a mountain of evidence debunking that notion, instead of putting the blame where it belongs, on lovely booking and writing that undermines the character instead of supporting it. I don't like it and it pisses me off.
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Junpei Hyde posted:Does anyone have the timestamp for when Dave talks about the JBL stuff? Starts about 11 minutes in.
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PaybackJack posted:
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KoldPT posted:Austin usually invites Wade Keller on for big show reviews. Ahh that's not so bad. I think it was Flair's podcast that had a really boring cohost that talked too much, or maybe Piper's? It certainly happened a lot on some of the MLW shows.
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Apr 10, 2017 11:57
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My favorite Undertaker entrance is when he returned at Judgement Day in 2000. (I liked Bikertaker, shut up.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVQR9Cs6If8 Edit: Shawn's shorts are still funny.
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rovert posted:WOR today didn't cover the Flair incident. Flair incident?
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rovert posted:WOR today didn't cover the Flair incident. What did he do now?
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Malcolm Excellent posted:What did he do now? https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/851289118931771392 The bar staff aren't sources so Meltzer won't go to bat for them.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Flair incident? he got kicked out of a bar in 5 minutes for calling the bartender a fatass
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Sanguinia posted:I thought Steve's critiques of Bray were quite on-point, particularly in the style of his ringwork and overplaying the laughing maniac without getting menace across. I thought Whoever Guy had some smart things to say about Orton and what he should be doing and what he's not capable of doing in the overall structure of the promotion. But the guys' remarks about Bray's worm projections were bullshit because he framed them in terms of wrestling fans being able to see through fantastical gimmicks as a thing the guys in the trucks do instead of a thing the wrestler does in the same show he was jacking off Undertaker for having an all-time great gimmick. There's also how he brought up Bray not "protecting the character," vis a vis social media when he's better at that then almost anyone else on the roster, including loving Kane who advertises his real estate business on his twitter. It's a bullshit double-standard that puts the failures of the Bray Wyatt character on the very concept of characters like him not being viable when there is a mountain of evidence debunking that notion, instead of putting the blame where it belongs, on lovely booking and writing that undermines the character instead of supporting it. I don't like it and it pisses me off. that's fair. in bray's defense with regards to social media i think that's wwe fully embracing kayfabe being dead and having "reality" associated with their brand, i don't really put that on him.
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Dunno what exactly you want Dave to say rovery, nor what your point is. But you keep being you
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ICHIBAHN posted:Dunno what exactly you want Dave to say rovery, nor what your point is. But you keep being you This old forum chestnut of yours. Flair is a bully but a source/friend too so he gets the "Ric being Ric" treatment.
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Nobody cares if he got thrown out a bar
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He got thrown out of a bar for BULLYING BEHAVIOR (allegedly namecalling the bartender) which is exactly the same as the WWE/JBL situation because
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rovert posted:This old forum chestnut of yours. Flair is a bully but a source/friend too so he gets the "Ric being Ric" treatment. Aside from all the other things like Ric not being in the locker room or a Vince puppet, there is a huge difference for Ric getting thrown out of a bar for a singular verbal altercation and JBL being an ongoing source of workplace harassment. Yeah, he might not going after Ric that hard in this instance, but acting like the two stories are anywhere close to comparable is ridiculous.
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PaybackJack posted:Aside from all the other things like Ric not being in the locker room or a Vince puppet, there is a huge difference for Ric getting thrown out of a bar for a singular verbal altercation and JBL being an ongoing source of workplace harassment. Hello and welcome to rovert.
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Sanguinia posted:I listened to Stone Cold's review of Mania today. I'm not a regular listener so I don't know who that co-host of his is, but when he went on his big rant about how Bray's ring projection thing was stupid it really pissed me off. A lot of people think its stupid because it's dumb and goofy, which I can respect, but thinking it's stupid because its nonsensical for the wrestler to have this magical power and its obviously just some thing the guys in the truck do with projectors that only little children could find exciting is the opinion of an rear end in a top hat. Did he think that Kane's fire in the ringposts was a poo poo gimmick that ruined the character because it was obviously the ring workers stuffing flash paper down in there not Kane actually having fire powers? Considering how much that same guy was fellating Undertaker for having one of the greatest gimmicks and characters in wrestling history later in the show, I'd love to hear him tell Steve that the time Taker crucified him was the dumbest segment in Raw history because obviously that whole thing was the work of WWE's crane operators and effects crew rather than anything Taker was doing. Sanguinia posted:I thought Steve's critiques of Bray were quite on-point, particularly in the style of his ringwork and overplaying the laughing maniac without getting menace across. I thought Whoever Guy had some smart things to say about Orton and what he should be doing and what he's not capable of doing in the overall structure of the promotion. But the guys' remarks about Bray's worm projections were bullshit because he framed them in terms of wrestling fans being able to see through fantastical gimmicks as a thing the guys in the trucks do instead of a thing the wrestler does in the same show he was jacking off Undertaker for having an all-time great gimmick. There's also how he brought up Bray not "protecting the character," vis a vis social media when he's better at that then almost anyone else on the roster, including loving Kane who advertises his real estate business on his twitter. It's a bullshit double-standard that puts the failures of the Bray Wyatt character on the very concept of characters like him not being viable when there is a mountain of evidence debunking that notion, instead of putting the blame where it belongs, on lovely booking and writing that undermines the character instead of supporting it. I don't like it and it pisses me off. i dont care
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