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Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
Wellll, he kinda has followed through on about 20% of his promises and is working on about 40% of the rest

https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org

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Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Don't get me wrong, I think he's doing a better job at keeping campaign promises than Harper.

MohawkSatan
Dec 20, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

Don't get me wrong, I think he's doing a better job at keeping campaign promises than Harper.

That's a pretty loving low bar. Burrowing animals regularly go over that bar.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

More like remind the deputy VAC minister of one of Trudeau's many broken campaign trail promises.

http://globalnews.ca/video/2181739/justin-trudeau-promises-free-post-secondary-education-to-all-veterans

(I voted for him to ensure no more Harper and think he's doing an ok job but Jesus, he hasn't done 1/16th of the poo poo he promised)

Isn't there a part of the new budget dedicated to like $40k of education benefits for vets?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

They keep insisting that school is technically covered if you go through SISIP.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer
Aw dammit, I got turned down for the VAC position. Apparently I didn't obtain the required pass mark for the essential qualifications of "Client Service Oriented" and "Judgement"

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
https://twitter.com/abc/status/854401664517685248

Dantes
Sep 3, 2003
It can never be too cold.
If anyone here is in the field for MR in Wx this morning... my heart goes out to you.

Primus
May 14, 2007

Greater than the sum of his parts.

Dantes posted:

If anyone here is in the field for MR in Wx this morning... my heart goes out to you.

Can I trade the heart for a plane ticket?

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Canuck-Errant posted:

Apparently I didn't obtain the required pass mark for the essential qualifications of "Judgement"
What, they saw "Canadian Forces" on your resume?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I'm on Team Canada for Invictus. Will anyone be in Toronto in September? I'm a bit of an Olympic Tourist and will finish my events halfway through, leaving plenty of time to grab a beer that week.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

What, they saw "Canadian Forces" on your resume?

I was applying for a job with Veterans Affairs, so maybe it was the "Reserves" part that did it.

Or the fact that it was my primary job for more than 0 months.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Canuck-Errant posted:

I was applying for a job with Veterans Affairs, so maybe it was the "Reserves" part that did it.

Or the fact that it was my primary job for more than 0 months.

Why would Veterans Affairs want to hire Veterans? Employees who can sympathize with the plight of the people they're supposed to be helping? Can't have that.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

MA-Horus posted:

Why would Veterans Affairs want to hire Veterans? Employees who can sympathize with the plight of the people they're supposed to be helping? Can't have that.

The job posting did say veterans were a priority. I'm just surprised that being a bilingual disabled visible minority veteran didn't make me an autohire regardless of my judgement, is all :v:

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
They found an even more disabled more visible minority veteran to hire. Sorry.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

They found an even more disabled more visible minority veteran to hire. Sorry.

Well, poo poo, how many languages could he still speak then? Or did he take the SLEs prior?

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Speaking of veterans affairs any disability awards paid out between some date in 2006 and this year are subject to increase. If you got a disability award in that time frame you should get a letter to confirm your address and banking information, or you can register a myVAC account and fill out the forms there.

Apparently the ombudsman said "lol these awards ain't poo poo, homie" and they are increasing them. Don't bother asking how much more you're getting, it's "too complicated to go into over the phone".

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Yep just got mine, it was pretty significant.

Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
How long was it between submitted and receiving it for you?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

How long was it between submitted and receiving it for you?

2 years. To VAC's credit, as soon as there were specialist reports they started moving on things, it just takes a while to see orthopedic surgeons and neuropsychologists.

One dead, three injured in Wainwright

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Question for the masses - a piece of bro-knowledge I've heard is that once you've joined some branch of the public service, your base pay can never drop outside of very limited situations (eg, demotion). Because of this, I've heard a couple people pseudo-jokingly say they'll become a postal clerk once they hit x rank and make 60k/year while doing half the work.

Anybody know where it lies on a scale of zero to bullshit?

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

Guest2553 posted:

Question for the masses - a piece of bro-knowledge I've heard is that once you've joined some branch of the public service, your base pay can never drop outside of very limited situations (eg, demotion). Because of this, I've heard a couple people pseudo-jokingly say they'll become a postal clerk once they hit x rank and make 60k/year while doing half the work.

Anybody know where it lies on a scale of zero to bullshit?

In the CF your pay is primarily based on your rank. You might get some more if you're a specialist (tradesman) or doing more dangerous stuff (paratrooper) or whatever but you're right - the baseline stays the same. As a former infantryman I could've potentially done an occupational transfer to a postal clerk and made pretty close to the same per year (no jump pay) but to sort mail instead of getting rained on and forced to run up sand hills.

I'm part of the OPS (OPP civilian) now and we have a similar thing. If I move to a normally lower-paying job my current pay stays the same until my new job catches up. I'm not sure, however, if this only applies to OPP uniform (since their starting rate is fairly low but catches up quickly) or to any other OPS position.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


I just realized there was some ambiguity in my question - I didn't mean CT to a mail clerk, but an actual release and getting hired by Canada Post or CSE or some other public service agency.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Oh. I'm sure you could try to negotiate that but in my experience the civilian world doesn't give two shits about what you actually did in the army and you're on just the same playing field as anyone else.

Edit: should apologize for not recognizing you as a regular here. Yeah in answer to your question - I highly doubt it.

acumen fucked around with this message at 23:35 on May 11, 2017

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Alright, I'll file that bit of info under the 'myth busted' category.

Don't feel bad brah, you're one trying to help out a guy who asked a poorly worded question :cheers:

e. vvv

Cool, thanks.

Guest2553 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on May 12, 2017

Freeze
Jan 2, 2006

I've never seen it written so neatly

Guest2553 posted:

Alright, I'll file that bit of info under the 'myth busted' category.

Don't feel bad ,brah, you're one trying to help out a guy who asked a poorly worded question :cheers:

Your friends are sort of correct. If you transition without a break from the CAF to the Federal Public Service (ie. Last day of service: 11 May, first day as a Public Servant: 12 May) your salary will be as closely matched as possible within your new civilian classification.

By that I mean: if you were making $60k a year, and started as an AS-01, which has a salary range of $35k to $55k (for example), you would start at the top of the payscale and immediately make $55k/yr because it's the closest match to your previous salary. If your first day as a Public Servant was 13 May instead, you would start at the bottom of the scale as usual.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Freeze posted:

Your friends are sort of correct. If you transition without a break from the CAF to the Federal Public Service (ie. Last day of service: 11 May, first day as a Public Servant: 12 May) your salary will be as closely matched as possible within your new civilian classification.

By that I mean: if you were making $60k a year, and started as an AS-01, which has a salary range of $35k to $55k (for example), you would start at the top of the payscale and immediately make $55k/yr because it's the closest match to your previous salary. If your first day as a Public Servant was 13 May instead, you would start at the bottom of the scale as usual.

This sounds pretty awesome. Is there a source for this policy? I'd like to do some more research into it.

Freeze
Jan 2, 2006

I've never seen it written so neatly

Mantle posted:

This sounds pretty awesome. Is there a source for this policy? I'd like to do some more research into it.

This is only thing I can find after a quick google search: http://www.unde-uedn-local612.ca/Documents/2011/Benefits%20guide%20former%20CF%20member.doc

It's not a well known policy, and I only found out when a friend of mine released and took advantage of it last year.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
How do I get a job with the Federal Government? I'm working as an excavator operator for a construction company and to say I hate it would be putting it lightly.

I just want a cushy government job. What do I do?

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Samu posted:

How do I get a job with the Federal Government? I'm working as an excavator operator for a construction company and to say I hate it would be putting it lightly.

I just want a cushy government job. What do I do?

https://emploisfp-psjobs.cfp-psc.gc.ca/psrs-srfp/applicant/page2440?fromMenu=true&toggleLanguage=en

Apply here. Start practicing to write the exams for the annual intake that happens in September.

A great entry level employer is CRA and they need people every year for tax season starting in January.

MohawkSatan
Dec 20, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I found out this weekend that one of my buddies is enlisting. As infantry.

I laughed, called him an idiot, and then remembered how reading GiP horror stories stopped me from making the same mistake. Thanks army goons

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

A lot of us who were infantry don't regret our decision. It was a formative experience, to be sure. Tons of lovely stuff, but the good parts (in most of our estimations) more than make up for it. Just probably don't make a career out of it, is all.

Lassitude fucked around with this message at 06:25 on May 22, 2017

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Canada Company is also good for getting a professional type job after time-in. Helmets to Hardhats is good too.

Soldier-On is hiring and so are the fitness people, it's fairly easy to get in there if you have a passion for sports.

MohawkSatan
Dec 20, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Lassitude posted:

A lot of us who were infantry don't regret our decision. It was a formative experience, to be sure. Tons of lovely stuff, but the good parts (in most of our estimations) more than make up for it. Just probably don't make a career out of it, is all.

Totally. But for every good story, with a positive end, there's five 'oh gently caress me' stories.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

MohawkSatan posted:

Totally. But for every good story, with a positive end, there's five 'oh gently caress me' stories.

The trick is not to ask women for their stories. Success rate goes way up.

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

MohawkSatan posted:

Totally. But for every good story, with a positive end, there's five 'oh gently caress me' stories.

One thing that made it a lot more tolerable was how 'oh gently caress me' situations turned into good stories in hindsight. Yeah, I think people who don't do a few years in are missing out.

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

MohawkSatan posted:

I found out this weekend that one of my buddies is enlisting. As infantry.

I laughed, called him an idiot, and then remembered how reading GiP horror stories stopped me from making the same mistake. Thanks army goons

Nothing wrong with going infantry, it's staying infantry that's a problem.

Get the experience, get out.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Like half of the air force is ex army/navy types for reasons including location, working environment, spec pay, shattered knees, not having RSMs, and skills that may actually be transferable.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Also not getting jacked up at your NCR desk job for obscure dress regs.

I'm not bitter.

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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

If there's one thing I like a lot about my civi job it's the "Fuckin try me" look I get to give mwos and chiefs who look askance at my jeans.

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