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Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Dragonatrix posted:

"Friends nowadays get THAT close to each other?"

We have 10 GFs

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Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
This game really impressed me with the characterization of Joker between the lines. You get this sort of show-off and confidence that I didn't really feel stand out with the last two protagonists with the game. You can play it up as a "thief of justice", a smarmy jerk, or a reluctant near-delinquent, or mix and match all of them (which I did). And the Confidant stories do convincingly for me tell a story where he evolves from being way out of his element into a master planner, which makes the game's several late-game plot points feel all the meaningful. E: It doesn't hurt that Arsene is the best starting Persona ever and (ending spoilers) Satanael is the best end game Persona. Also in general the personality the Personas get in their awakening scenes are ace.

This game thematically also is far more interesting and thoughtful in how it apply the Major Arcana, I feel. You actually get to see "a fool has all his tools" and the game uses callbacks constantly that are meaningful. All of the confidants are tied in by game mechanics and theme as outsiders that the Phantom Thieves collect around them. The weakest one to me (Fortune) still feels like it ties all together and nothing feels extraneous, which is a problem I have with Persona 3 and Persona 4. It really feels like all the players are on the board and meaningful, rather than just incidental to your story.

Tricky Dick Nixon fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 11, 2017

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
I'm gonna miss casino night zone. So far I've been really disappointed that none of the heists have been on the level of the second palace. I loved seeing the party members working as a team in separate areas to pull off the theft.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

By the way, what's the best way to make money around July? Should I just beg for money in Memetos forever with my Sun level 3 power?

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

poo poo. I finally made it to where Rivers in the Desert plays.

I'm never escaping this song am I? :shepface:

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


YoshiOfYellow posted:

poo poo. I finally made it to where Rivers in the Desert plays.

I'm never escaping this song am I? :shepface:

A HEARTBEAT FOR A TIN MAN

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
How do you read at home?

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Terper posted:

A HEARTBEAT FOR A TIN MAN
oasis in a singed land

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

Kurtofan posted:

How do you read at home?

Books? The bar at Leblanc when there's no customer's around. It's just next to the phone.

Farg
Nov 19, 2013
makoto is honor student chie

Anzen
Oct 21, 2010

Sea Sponge Run posted:

By the way, what's the best way to make money around July? Should I just beg for money in Memetos forever with my Sun level 3 power?

Cast confuse on Mementos bosses (it works on most but not all of them) and watch the money come flowing in.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Dragonatrix posted:

Books? The bar at Leblanc when there's no customer's around. It's just next to the phone.

Thanks.

I'm having a oops moment, it's 4/30 and ryuji wanted to talk to me yesterday but forgot about it, did I miss something important?

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

It's a shame there's no same-sex romance options in this game because Yusuke, Akechi, and Mishima are all pretty much well set up for it in various ways.

This list doesn't have Iwai and is therefore a bad list.

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

ApplesandOranges posted:

This list doesn't have Iwai and is therefore a bad list.

I have been soundly chastised.

I'd be down with having Iwai be my aniki... Sworn brothers, you see...

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
So uh, I guess Network Fusion can give you Personas with a higher base level than your own.

What is that actually doing? Randomly pairing me with someone online and fusing the two Persona we put up, giving us both the result?

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

wizard on a water slide posted:

So uh, I guess Network Fusion can give you Personas with a higher base level than your own.

What is that actually doing? Randomly pairing me with someone online and fusing the two Persona we put up, giving us both the result?

I don't know that it's actually doing that, but that's the idea. It might just be faking it a bit.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Oh hey I got the Compassionate Listener trophy without even trying, neat.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

Dan Didio posted:

I don't know that it's actually doing that, but that's the idea. It might just be faking it a bit.

I've had the time taken for it to happen range from instant to a minute so I think it is actually looking for a pair.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
The fact that the english version of the Maid Teacher's "Becky" voice sounds enough like her Yukari voice from P3 that I did a double take at first just makes me assume that this is an AU where her modeling career never took off.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Since the game takes place in media res does that mean every time you gameover or die it's basically the main character looking Sae in the face and going "I died. Yep. Something totally killed me."

The implication is kind of funny if so.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
That's clearly the intended reason (for most of the game) why MC death is game over.

unseenlibrarian posted:

The fact that the english version of the Maid Teacher's "Becky" voice sounds enough like her Yukari voice from P3 that I did a double take at first just makes me assume that this is an AU where her modeling career never took off.

And with the reporter being voiced by Amanda Winn Lee who voiced Yukiko as well, that has some, uh, interesting implications from that line of thinking.

And best girl Hifumi Togo is voiced by Eden Riegel which is quite the 180 from being double-worst girl Marie in a game full of nothing but worst girls.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Since the game takes place in media res does that mean every time you gameover or die it's basically the main character looking Sae in the face and going "I died. Yep. Something totally killed me."

The implication is kind of funny if so.
Nah, you just get a standard gameover thing and Igor calls you an idiot.

At least if you die in combat.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Fabricated posted:

Nah, you just get a standard gameover thing and Igor calls you an idiot.

At least if you die in combat.

Well yeah, I've seen it enough at this point.:v: The thing is the game for the most part is MC in that room recounting how he got there meaning he never actually died.

If you fall in combat it's basically MC telling Sae that he died.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


"Jesus Christ, those drugs must have done a bigger number on you than I thought. This is meaningless. I'm leaving."

GAME OVER

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
You get specific game overs if you fail palaces and they are sometimes horrific.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

The thing is the game for the most part is MC in that room recounting how he got there meaning he never actually died.

Which is why it's a game over. You're way overthinking this.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Well yeah, I've seen it enough at this point.:v: The thing is the game for the most part is MC in that room recounting how he got there meaning he never actually died.

If you fall in combat it's basically MC telling Sae that he died.

Dragonatrix posted:

Which is why it's a game over. You're way overthinking this.

It's kind of cool to use this as a justification for why you get to retry major battles tho, "wait no that's impossible that didn't happen" like Prince of Persia or some poo poo

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

I'm impressed at you guys who one rounded the third palace

took me two full days of sp but i don't have any of those fancy sp restoring accessories yet

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Dragonatrix posted:

Which is why it's a game over. You're way overthinking this.

Well yeah, I'm more just saying that I find it funny is all v:v:v

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!
The loading icon for the Hawaii trip :allears:

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

unseenlibrarian posted:

The fact that the english version of the Maid Teacher's "Becky" voice sounds enough like her Yukari voice from P3 that I did a double take at first just makes me assume that this is an AU where her modeling career never took off.

I've been having this same experience with Ohya who sounds a lot like Yukiko.

Goodguy3
Aug 11, 2016

"What?! I'm not tangled up like this for fun, you know!"
So I'm thirty odd hours or so in and have cleared the second palace. I'm enjoying it a lot, but I have a few nitpicks.

- Whenever you gain a social stat, it still annoys me that the game feels the need to not only first imply what went up ("I feel smarter after pointing out those two lines are connected!"), but then open up the Social Stats screen, SHOW the points going into the stat, and then SAY that that stat went up. It just feels unnecessary, especially when at least Persona 4 did just fine simply saying the stat increased.

- I think it's kind of silly that defending suddenly needs confirmation, but you're more than welcome to accidentally waste a turn if you hit X and swing your weapon at that dude who gets healed by knife wounds or something. This is more of a user thing though, after being used to the more traditional menu style of the last game. I'll get used to it.

- I'm still not sure how I feel about Morgana tagging along with you everywhere. He basically takes the place of the second person narration boxes in the previous games. He doesn't annoy me (yet), but I'm just glad he hasn't butted in to any of the social links that I've done so far, which was what I was kind of afraid of.

-As a whole, compared to the last one, it feels like this one took much, much longer to actually get going as far as opening up and letting you start building social stats/social links Confidants. I'm still in late May, though, so It's probably that this one has a different pace it's going for. I won't be surprised if this one actually lets the player play through the Winter season.

Otherwise, It's very solid, and was worth the several years it took to release, in my opinion.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Goodguy3 posted:

- I'm still not sure how I feel about Morgana tagging along with you everywhere. He basically takes the place of the second person narration boxes in the previous games. He doesn't annoy me (yet), but I'm just glad he hasn't butted in to any of the social links that I've done so far, which was what I was kind of afraid of.


Good news for you, this never happens.

Morgana is my least-liked character of the bunch but I don't know if it's because he's bad or because he's the face of, "better get to bed early tonight!"

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
(End game spoilers) I am dying laughing at the fact they could not get Dan Woren back.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

Tae posted:

You get specific game overs if you fail palaces and they are sometimes horrific.

Yeah, someone here said how the third palace game over goes and it's a real bad one. Seventh palace spoilers follow: Is the human trafficking and exploitation of minors something we can level some amount of responsibility on Shida since he was being financially backed by Kaneshiro?

TheFireMagi
Nov 6, 2011

...She's behind me, isn't she?

Captain Baal posted:

(End game spoilers) I am dying laughing at the fact they could not get Dan Woren back.

Yeah, hearing a second completely different voice for Igor threw me for a loop, and it made the situation more hilarious than it should have been.

I still can't believe that Igor having a different voice was actually plot relevant though.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
With a little time and positive thinking, you'll find that Morgana is your friend

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Question on Palace 6 I'm horrible at guessing games. Do I really need to roll the dice and hope for the best or am I being a idiot. Akechi mentioned it's probably rigged but I don't see where else to go.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Look for a vent in the room using focus.

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ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

I'm dumb and I overlook vents way too often :negative:

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