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Yardbomb posted:Woopee, they're literally opening the camps now. Yeah, a link got posted in the Freep thread, and it's mostly split between "I will stand up for gays as long as I get to hate on brown people", "See, The Gays, this is REAL oppression, not me calling you names and refusing to bake you wedding cakes  ", and "Now while I wouldn't normally side with moose limbs, you have to agree that this is the inevitable conclusion to the horror of gay acceptance."Everyone to the right of the DNC should be thrown in an active volcano. Then the DNC for good measure. 
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Easy Salmon Recipe posted:Everyone to the right of the DNC should be thrown in an active volcano. Then the DNC for good measure. Solving the problem of anthropogenic climate change through radical depopulation, I see
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Quorum posted:Solving the problem of anthropogenic climate change through radical depopulation, I see It's only radical if we install a ramp to the lava and strap them to BMX bikes.
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Easy Salmon Recipe posted:It's only radical if we install a ramp to the lava and strap them to BMX bikes. Think of all the jobs that would be created to make all those bikes!
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Remember that "it gets better campaign?" No, it doesn't. We need a video campaign urging people to stand up for their rights because it does not "get better" without voices being heard and action being taken, and even then, it's still so difficult and unrewarding and actually dangerous that I break down in tears just thinking about what queer kids are going through. At least when I was a kid, it was all so closeted that I didn't even know enough to be ashamed until I was legally an adult. Now, you have the Internet giving you hope on one hand and taking it away on the other. Adults going after children to further an agenda without a true care in the world for how it hurts them because, as far as they see it, it is for their own good. "It gets better." Look at Russia, Uganda, and now the Trump administration (I think Trump gives no fucks, but everybody else has an agenda and it includes making us not exist). That's the thing. Tennessee is wanting to say kids have to go to the bathroom of the gender on their birth certificate. At the same time that Tennessee as explicit exclusions from changing gender on birth certificates for anything that has to do with being transgender. They want us to not exist. I am not ashamed, but I am terrified.
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Aleph Null posted:Remember that "it gets better campaign?" That campaign was aimed at kids in high school in lovely regressive places and sought to tell them that there are cooler, better places, and they can absolutely be happy fulfilled people when they grow up. Don't minimize that message just because you aren't, or are no longer, its target market. Not that urging action isn't just as vital, of course.
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https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/851902651923144706
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All the way back to the supreme court, but this time with Gorsuch.
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Bethamphetamine posted:All the way back to the supreme court, but this time with Gorsuch. As a reminder, the gay marriage approval came with Scalia still alive
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Bethamphetamine posted:All the way back to the supreme court, but this time with Gorsuch. It's not going to make it into law, and even if it did, the 4th Circuit would say it's unconstitutional and the Supremes wouldn't grant cert.
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fishmech posted:As a reminder, the gay marriage approval came with Scalia still alive Yeah, unless someone else gets replaced before this arrives at the supreme court, it's still Dead on Arrival.
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Bethamphetamine posted:All the way back to the supreme court, but this time with Gorsuch. Who is replacing Scalia, so it would be one antigay vote replacing another antigay vote. Doesn't change anything.
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joat mon posted:It's not going to make it into law, and even if it did, the 4th Circuit would say it's unconstitutional and the Supremes wouldn't grant cert. Gosh I love the new improved post-Obama Fourth Circuit. I had the privilege of watching oral arguments there when one of the last big gay marriage cases went through a few years ago, and it was quite pleasant listening to an older, Clinton-appointed black judge absolutely ream the attorneys arguing for the ban by echoing all the ways they sounded just like people trying to keep interracial marriage illegal.
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Easy Salmon Recipe posted:Everyone to the right of the DNC should be thrown in an active volcano. Then the DNC for good measure. Hell,
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Bethamphetamine posted:Here you go Don't worry, NC will stay on your mind! Here's an article with a little more info on the bill. http://www.wral.com/gay-marriage-ban-filed-in-nc-house-/16639157/ quote:RALEIGH, N.C. — A bill filed Tuesday in the state House would outlaw same-sex marriage in North Carolina and refuse to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states.
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Here's another article about the gay men being rounded up by Washington Post quote:
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Hollismason posted:Here's another article about the gay men being rounded up by Washington Post Chechnya seems to have a thing for genocide...
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Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing " What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Because one of the organizers in my area is spreading it and boy am I mad right now. When I I get home from work i can post the full post. Also throw in "36 states in the US currently do not protect LGBT under the law so...shut up".
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BigRed0427 posted:Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing " What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Because one of the organizers in my area is spreading it and boy am I mad right now. When I I get home from work i can post the full post. Luckily no, I would be loving pissed if someone tried to tell me that.
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BigRed0427 posted:Also throw in "36 states in the US currently do not protect LGBT under the law so...shut up". "And you are lynching negros!"
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BigRed0427 posted:Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing " What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Because one of the organizers in my area is spreading it and boy am I mad right now. When I I get home from work i can post the full post. This is absolutely appalling. Anyone who ignores this kind of widespread and systematic, I hate to say abuse, say instead persecution and torture, of a vulnerable minority simply because of some misguided both sides reasoning, or worse, simply because they don't think it's politically convenient to care, is thoroughly betraying their principles and those on whose behalf they are supposedly organizing.
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It also makes no loving sense. The Chechen Republic has a lot of differences with Russia, there were the whole wars and stuff, and all the news articles are talking about Chechnya rounding up gay men, not Russia. So even if you wanted to white knight Putin due to dumb badly formed tankie thought and excuse the homophobia in the rest of the Federation with whataboutism you could still say something like "Russia is not killing gay men, the Chechens are."
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BigRed0427 posted:Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing " What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Because one of the organizers in my area is spreading it and boy am I mad right now. When I I get home from work i can post the full post. I, for one, cannot believe Ramzan Kadyrov would be involved in atrocities.
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Ok, took me awhile but i found their post again. drat, Facebook does not make finding things easy. Two things to know when you read this. 1: This person does the organizing for all the trans related events in our area, including TDOR and the Trans day of Visibility that was recently held. Also, their family is Russian so that might be where the "Russiaphobia' stuff is comming fromDear god, how are there more Jullian Assanges. posted:For US people, regarding Chechnya. I had totally forgotten the "All Live Matter" Part at the end there. This pisses me off so much and is why I am leery of a lot of the far left Marxists and socialists in general. It seems like a lot of them are demanding their pet causes come first and everything else is a distraction. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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i honestly wonder how many of the people in leftist circles saying "russiaphobia" in response to democratic inquiries about trump's russian ties are kremlin plants trying to dismantle any grassroots attempts at organizing by making it seem "problematic" or something. like don't get me wrong "we gotta bomb this country to protect the citizens of that country" is a tried and true banner to go to war on but for real letting that get in the way of actually calling attention to what is most likely a real thing that is happening (because this is a country run by a man who made people who attended a party he lost his watch at come back to insure they hadn't stolen it, which was like 2,000 people and included children) is preeeetty hosed up i see some leftists doing that with assad too and it's like bro you don't gotta pretend assad isn't a piece of poo poo to say that bombing a country to protect that country is stupid as gently caress
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Huh? The chechnya thing has nothing to do with the weird obsession of house dems with Russia.
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Hollismason posted:Here's another article about the gay men being rounded up by Washington Post those dastardly devils at Wapo, agents of Kadyrov
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BigRed0427 posted:Ok, took me awhile but i found their post again. drat, Facebook does not make finding things easy. Two things to know when you read this. 1: This person does the organizing for all the trans related events in our area, including TDOR and the Trans day of Visibility that was recently held. Also, their family is Russian so that might be where the "Russiaphobia' stuff is comming from tankies are the loving worst. "i will ignore all the crimes of not-communist dictatorships lest people use <<hey russia>> as an argument against communism. also i poo poo my pants and do not buy new ones because clean pants are an effete distraction of the bourgeoisie."
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I dunno, I just see them as the polar opposite of "why are you agitating for women's/LGBT/minority rights in your country when Saudi Arabia/Iran/Chechnya?" people. They're both insufferable, and the latter are more numerous anywhere outside of far left spaces.
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cis autodrag posted:tankies are the loving worst. "i will ignore all the crimes of not-communist dictatorships lest people use <<hey russia>> as an argument against communism. also i poo poo my pants and do not buy new ones because clean pants are an effete distraction of the bourgeoisie." There's also a strong undercurrent of nationalism in Eastern Europe: Admitting to your country having done something wrong would be tantamount to saying that, possibly, your heritage is not the most superior one in the world (which is constantly and unfairly put upon by pernicious external influences, which one must constantly be on guard against) and, well, that would just be intolerable.
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PT6A posted:There's also a strong undercurrent of nationalism in Eastern Europe: Admitting to your country having done something wrong would be tantamount to saying that, possibly, your heritage is not the most superior one in the world (which is constantly and unfairly put upon by pernicious external influences, which one must constantly be on guard against) and, well, that would just be intolerable. Tankies are Western commies though. Aging American and British trots who defend everything China, Russia, or Korea do lest it besmirch the superiority of communism.
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cis autodrag posted:Tankies are Western commies though. Aging American and British trots who defend everything China, Russia, or Korea do lest it besmirch the superiority of communism. Right, I was talking specifically about the person BigRed was quoting, who was of Russian descent.
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PT6A posted:Right, I was talking specifically about the person BigRed was quoting, who was of Russian descent. Gotcha. My brain shut down on that post before I saw who the quote came from.
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BigRed0427 posted:Is anyone who run in farther left circles seeing or hearing "What's happening in Chechnya is not real, it's just an excuse to drum up support for war with Russia and propagate Russiaphobia?" Thankfully no because I'd probably have already been charged with assault over it. And seriously jesus christ that facebook post, "Ahuhur america 1st" through another lens.
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cis autodrag posted:Gotcha. My brain shut down on that post before I saw who the quote came from. No problem. For what it's worth, I've also dealt with tankies from communist countries (or I suppose you could term them "true believers" if you prefer) -- I had a Cuban friend who had studied in the USSR, and even though he lived in Canada for quite a time he was still a very big fan of communism, Stalinism and everything else. He eventually left to work in Venezuela, presumably on Chavez's socialist paradise. I have no idea what he's doing now (I haven't heard from him since Chavez died). Funny story: apparently if you were trying to reach him in Cuba, because three people named Ivan used his phone line, you were to ask for "Crazy Ivan" to reach him. He came by that nickname honestly...
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SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CHECHNYA SITUATION NOT BEING REAL. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/04/21/chechnyas-president-i-will-eliminate-the-gay-community-by-the-start-of-ramadan/ "The president of Chechnya has issued a chilling warning to gay men in the region. Sources have said that he wants the [LGBT] community eliminated by the start of Ramadan." "Mr Duncan revealed that he spoke directly to his counterpart, Russia’s deputy foreign secretary Vladimir Titov, to challenge the Russian Federation on human rights abuses against LGBT people. British Embassy representatives have also spoken directly to the Russian government to raise the issue. However a spokesperson for Vladimir Putin has said the Russian president has no reason to believe the attacks are genuine. Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s Press Secretary, claimed that investigators have found no evidence to support reports of the purge, which originated in respected newspaper Novaya Gazeta, according to Associated Press." "This week, Putin had a meeting with Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, who told the Russian president not to believe the “provocative” articles. He also accused international organisations of conducting a “massive information attack using the most unworthy methods, reality is distorted, attempts are being made to blacken our society, lifestyle, traditions and customs.” A spokesperson for Chechnya’s leader Ramzan Kadyrov has previously denied there are any gay people to purge, insisting that “you can’t detain and harass someone who doesn’t exist in the republic”." But you know, false flag, russophobia, whatever other bullshit.
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Yardbomb posted:SO, HOW ABOUT THAT CHECHNYA SITUATION NOT BEING REAL. Clearly just more anti-russia propaganda 
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Oh look, another televangelist is evading taxes. https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/04/healing-powers-cant-stop-irs-raid-texas-televangelist-benny-hinn/ Water is wet and the sky is blue.
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