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Technowolf posted:I wonder what the deal is with that two-handed weapon we saw a second or two of. They mentioned Talion gets a spear when he's mounted, but apparently it can also be used on foot.
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Deakul posted:New IGN gameplay: they have said a few times they are using alpha stuff because they want to focus on making the game and keeping stuff surprising.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I do wonder where the story can really go in this game. We can't actually conquer Mordor and Gondor before the events of lotr even happen. They should go the Force Unleashed route and basically just push hard an alternate canon. The first game sort of felt lame about having you face off against Sauron knowing you can't win, so this time around they should do the opposite. Have you destroy Sauron, take his ring for yourself, and the third and final game is a retelling of Return of the King, with the player as the villain.
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Apr 11, 2017 03:21
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Orv posted:I haven't watched it yet, and will confirm when I do, but they've said that while Talion won't be getting weapon options (still dagger/sword/ghost bow), Celebrimbor will have various spirit weapon options, including his forging hammer, a spear and at least one other, possibly more. That's what that is, yeah. Also I noticed that the wraith sprint is now triggerable when you mantle a ledge, which is a good addition. Oh also, forgot to mention when I combed through the stream, they said at the end of it that this week it'll be on Thursday instead and they'll actually be able to start talking about things. You should probably just wait for me to watch it for you, because I doubt they'll spill all the beans, but there it is.
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Apr 11, 2017 03:22
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Lots of rad new things there and lots of rough edges still. Talion isn't actually allowed any closer to Gondor than the Black Gate isn't he? On account of murdering that noble. Wonder if that's gonna be a minor plot point, like Talion trying to warn against early Mordor aggression, but the nobles telling him to suck a fat one. edit: oh that was open world? (they said at the end) it looked like a very scripted mission at first.
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Apr 11, 2017 05:16
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That smelled like tutorial mission from the VO talking about stuff SoM players would know, but de Plater has said some stuff along the lines of Minas Ithil being a fairly big chunk of the early game, and it's possible that Minas ithil becomes a standard fortress once the opening tutorializing and attempt to rally Gondor is done.
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Apr 11, 2017 05:37
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Didn't Minas Ithil fall about a thousand years before this is supposed to be happening? Like, before Gollum even finds the ring level of long ago?
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Apr 11, 2017 09:34
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Apr 11, 2017 09:49
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Lol, i tried to wiki it, but it's horribly convoluted. As far as i can tell Minas Ithil fell multiple times, the last time being in 2002 of the Third Age. Frodo leaves the Shire with the ring in 3001 of the Third age. It might all be a flashback to one of Celebrimbors memories? As Minas Ithil apparently becomes Minas Morgul and we know that TOO is a large part of the game.
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Apr 11, 2017 13:41
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Orv posted:Who cares?
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I mean tbh it's probably not going to be time travel, so it might well be a different sort of Minas. Personally I don't care all that much, but it'd be nice to get a timeline because I am a massive nerd.
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Apr 11, 2017 14:06
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Even rough, neat things abound. One, the whole domination animation seems much quicker. (Less chance of getting smacked out of it hopefully) Another is that you can use wraith speed whenever you want. (Tied to a stamina bar, apparently. But that's acceptable.) Lessee... actual human allies and captains, neat. Much bigger areas and maps. Love it. I'm happy so far.
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I stopped giving a poo poo about timelines with this series a long time ago, just enjoy the new adventures in Middle Earth and make friends with orcs!
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Another thing I've noticed is that they downgraded weaknesses a little. They're no longer instant kills, but instead just "daze" and possibly do a some extra damage. Personally I'd say that's a good change. While it was fun to just immediately murder a guy by shooting him in the face the first few times, in the long run it became somewhat anticlimactic. I remember several times where I encountered a yet unknown captain, looked forward towards a nice fight and maybe a brand, only to accidentally cut his head off when he turned out to be weak to combat finishers.
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Perestroika posted:Another thing I've noticed is that they downgraded weaknesses a little. They're no longer instant kills, but instead just "daze" and possibly do a some extra damage. Personally I'd say that's a good change. While it was fun to just immediately murder a guy by shooting him in the face the first few times, in the long run it became somewhat anticlimactic. I remember several times where I encountered a yet unknown captain, looked forward towards a nice fight and maybe a brand, only to accidentally cut his head off when he turned out to be weak to combat finishers. I always hate when I encounter an ORK that looks cool and I want to make him mine, and then I instant kill when I ambush him
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Iron Crowned posted:I always hate when I encounter an ORK that looks cool and I want to make him mine, and then I instant kill when I ambush him I liked making mine look cool by wraith burning them. It was always a shame when that ended up just branding the buggers.
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I like that change too. It was fun for a while to go "HAHHAAAAA I KNOW YOUR SECRETS" as i had a karagor eat MURDUUK THE WHITE or whatever, but i would rather have a real fight. Edit: I hope there are less "i win" tactics too this time around, like Wraith Stun spam and hit captain 5 times, ground stab, unlock finishers combo, use finisher, repeat. Dongattack fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Apr 11, 2017 |
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Apr 11, 2017 17:32
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I wouldn't mind if full-on weaknesses still existed. I always found it hilarious when I'd sneak attack and orc and, whoops, captain. But, I also like the existence of an intermediary step. lovely captains could grow out of their weaknesses over time. High level ones wouldn't start with any.
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For anyone hoping to jump onto the Shadow of Mordor bandwaggon before this drops, the GOTY edition is available on the PSN store for about fifteen bucks. Given how a lot of my retailers are still selling it for over twice that, it's a good bargain. Replaying it reminded me that they did a surprisingly good job humanizing Talion in the opening chapter through the flashbacks to his wife and son. It's not perfect, but the actors do pretty good work with the script and make it at least a little sad that they die.
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Apr 11, 2017 17:39
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Using your son's broken sword to slit orc throats was a great bit of characterization and I was sad when it turned into Big C's Fairy Elven Butterknife
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Using your son's broken sword to slit orc throats was a great bit of characterization and I was sad when it turned into Big C's Fairy Elven Butterknife Looks like it's back to the broken sword, or you can at least change that with costumes/gear options.
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Technowolf posted:Looks like it's back to the broken sword, or you can at least change that with costumes/gear options. This is a good change. Also I only heard about this game a couple of days ago but having played the crap out of the first one as Orc Pokemon Simulator I am mega stoked.
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GoneRampant posted:For anyone hoping to jump onto the Shadow of Mordor bandwaggon before this drops, the GOTY edition is available on the PSN store for about fifteen bucks. Given how a lot of my retailers are still selling it for over twice that, it's a good bargain. https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-bundle it's 5 dollars at bundle stars for the PC version, with all of the DLC. Legit worth a romp!
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Using your son's broken sword to slit orc throats was a great bit of characterization and I was sad when it turned into Big C's Fairy Elven Butterknife I also assumed that the bit of cloth wrapped around the scabbard* was a scrap of his wife's bloodstained dress. Maybe one of the new stealth kills is garroting someone with it? *in the ugly-rear end default costume, anyway, which I used for all of about three seconds before turning on the Dark Ranger duds
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ninjahedgehog posted:*in the ugly-rear end default costume, anyway, which I used for all of about three seconds before turning on the Dark Ranger duds Did you get captains returning from the dead with this skin on? Earlier ITT and the original SoM thread for that matter i lamented about never seeing captains come back from the dead, and i ALWAYS played with that skin on. Then when i went back to the default skin on my like 100hours+ 100% save that has never seen someone come back from the dead (i think) they started coming back like mad for a while.
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Just started playing Mordor again, this time on pc. Was having a good time when THIS HAPPENED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tHJKXbzVjw Needless to say it didnt go well.... So i decided to get revenge..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NidNotSBWH4 This is why i cant wait for the sequel. God drat such a good game. Even thinking of preordering the whole package, just cause i loved the first game so much.
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4:40, sick ghost double jump/dash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSJi8a69-zs
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Also "summon spider" at about 2.00 minutes in. That probably means arachnaphobes are going to hate this game.
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I guess they are skipping about 1000 years then in favor of making a more fluid story re: Minas Ithils --> Minas Morgul and the folly of man. I'm okay with that, it sounds like a cool story to tell. Man, i hope they nail this game. I just want deeper Nemesis system and a much bigger and vibrant world and i will be happy. edit: i also want Talions sprinting animation to not look like he shat himself like it does in these pre-launch vids Dongattack fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Dongattack posted:I guess they are skipping about 1000 years then in favor of making a more fluid story re: Minas Ithils --> Minas Morgul and the folly of man. I'm okay with that, it sounds like a cool story to tell. Same. The graphics can be whatever. But I want that by the end of the current gen the nemesis system gets as popular as open world designs got by the end of the ps2 era.
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Be sure to let us know if there's anything interesting in that stream, I keep trying to watch their streams but they end up being super boring and dry to the point I can't stand it.
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Yeah I will. At some point I became inured to the horrible fake attitude of streaming personalities so it's whatever now. I just crave that sweet sweet info.
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My guess is that they will walk through the two new trailers like they did with the last one, but drat, would be nice with some gameplay.
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Dongattack posted:My guess is that they will walk through the two new trailers like they did with the last one, but drat, would be nice with some gameplay.  Straight from a notepad; Summon Spiders: Yes Story missions have randomized nemesiseseseses, which can exist in the sandbox after story missions if they cheat death/escape One-shot kills/routs still exist on named orcs, Dazed By is a action game style boss stun during which you can get in damage before they recover Named orcs now go to level 60 Minas Ithil arena: Every game area has an arena, orc 'legal system', fight to the death Can send your own orcs into the arenas to infiltrate other command structures Your own orcs can fight in the arena to play Pokemans You can fight in the arena yourself, interrupt and kill/dominate one or both, but there are some non-interferable situations Mystic Tank: Tank; high HP, brute force rather than a trickster, second wind style ability sort of like Talion's cheat death Mystic; Cursed weapons, various spellcasting abilities, teleport, attack spells Siege Graugs: Dominatable, can bring your own to fortresses assaults, different ammo types (napalm, poison, couple others) Named orc traits can buff siege weapons AC2 style, more orcs can follow you around in free run environments Bring up to 4 warchiefs for fortress assaults, various traits and soldiers to choose from to bring, 18 choices total with 4 warchiefs (if I understood that correctly) Fortress Destructability: Gates, towers, wall sections, monuments, cages and siege weapons Allies: Story mission human characters will show up in open world Side missions have full stories and character arcs, cinematics Summon Gondorian soldiers in open world Minas Ithil warchief tree will be Nazgul later in the game, rather than humans in the intro No human branding, there are some exceptions including DOMINATING NAZGUL Humans can join fortress assaults as a trait choice Can humans betray you "No comment" Can't assign humans into the nemesis syestem Knock-off Palantir are the new checkpoint towers Barrows: Stuff to do; -More Celebrimbor flashbacks, this time as playable sequences a la Bright Lord DLC, gives a legendary Celebrimbor armor set -Ithildin puzzles a la Assassin's Creed crest/puzzle rooms that give an armor set for full completion Riddles and poems generally - Unlock throwing version of Celebrimbor's crafting hammer, higher damage, lower range and speed, "Middle Earth Rocket Launcher" One barrows area for each open world area Miscellany questions: Legendary orcs - brand or kill for legendary loot Fortress assaults are pretty much your own deal, your troops do their own thing, not Mount and Blade/Total War Many more orc weapons Each region has a seperate army, but you can transfer orcs between region to some extent Regions are different difficulty levels, you see higher level and more challenging orcs the deeper into Mordor you get Undead of some kind confirmed (question was specifically regarding Barrow Wights, "we have undead" was the dodge) No swimming Orc executions: Tribal, class, weapon type, weapon element, species, traits each have different types Orcs: bombs, various arrow types, traps Death threat changes/additions: Death threats become missions a la Warchief draw outs in SoM and death threats increase loot rarity chance Bodyguards: Just one bodyguard at a time, on a cool down, gang or mount traits apply to bodyguard summons IGN will have more SoW videos all month. Orv fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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This sounds far too loving good to be true, but so did the last game, and actually stepping back it sounds like the Assassins Creed 1 -> 2 jump. That potential jump in quality couldn't happen from a better base.
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Holy poo poo, this really does sound way too good to be true. 
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Hooooly gently caress. This news has made me feel a bit better after a rather lovely day.
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