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Persona 3's main story and thematic ties are so much stronger than P4s crap it's unreal. p4 has much better pacing but i don't really care!
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Apr 11, 2017 23:26
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Pierson posted:Also if she hadn't done that and I wasn't already spoiled on team members I honestly would have expected the third palace to be hers and the Boy Detective to be our new party member because this girl is an inch away from boiling over holy poo poo. Something I love about all the teammates is that they really own the whole delinquent thing. Even Haru. They all have neuroses and the Phantom Thieves come across as very believable anti-heroes. It connects very well with the use of thieves and demons as Personas and the lategame especially. They all have so much anger at the world, and that fuels them and unites them both. Only Morgana is an exception, and for a good reason.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Persona 3's main story and thematic ties are so much stronger than P4s crap it's unreal. Ye ye Persona 3 is a better overall cohesive, artistic product, but hold a gun to my head and I'd much rather replay P4 Golden than P3FES any day. EDIT: What this one said, more or less AlphaKeny1 posted:I really like P3, but I really don't like playing it.
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Apr 11, 2017 23:28
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P3's bad pacing is basically shoving the 3rd Palace all the way to September.
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Apr 11, 2017 23:40
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So musketeer Haru uses an axe instead of a fencing sword? I don't really have a problem with this, but it seems a little weird when everyone else fits their motif to a T.
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Apr 11, 2017 23:40
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AlphaKeny1 posted:I really like P3, but I really don't like playing it. This really perfectly describes P5 for me, as well. I really like it, but I'm having close to zero actual fun playing it. It's pretty much exactly the opposite of ME:A, which I didn't much like, but had a lot of fun with while playing. The only good sequel has been Nier 
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Apr 11, 2017 23:42
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Oh god, I think I broke Haru's heart by not dating her but I was already committed to Makoto
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Apr 11, 2017 23:45
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Intoluene posted:Oh god, I think I broke Haru's heart by not dating her but I was already committed to Makoto You should've picked the friend option back in rank 9
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Apr 11, 2017 23:47
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Intoluene posted:Oh god, I think I broke Haru's heart by not dating her but I was already committed to Makoto Yeah, the scene for turning down Haru really made me feel bad. She seems genuinely very let down.
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Apr 11, 2017 23:47
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Tae posted:You should've picked the friend option back in rank 9 That was the friend option in rank 9. She genuinely seemed let down that you only see her as a friend.
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Apr 11, 2017 23:49
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Man I'm actually putting off playing this right now because I know I likely don't need more than single session to beat it (I'm about 3/5ths of the way through Palace 7) and I just don't want it to be over
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Apr 12, 2017 00:02
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Infinity Gaia posted:Man I'm actually putting off playing this right now because I know I likely don't need more than single session to beat it (I'm about 3/5ths of the way through Palace 7) and I just don't want it to be over You've still got a ways to go. More than one session for sure.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:07
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Persona 3 is really thematically cohesive except all those parts where it's not at all
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Apr 12, 2017 00:08
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So just to clarify, the boss of Palace 7 is basically Senator Armstrong. Also was that fight supposed to take 2 hours? I'm playing on hard and it felt like a proper SMT fight.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:09
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Arist posted:Persona 3 is really thematically cohesive except all those parts where it's not at all except when we bring Shinji back and we explicitly establish cosmic forces are out to try and revive the main character from death
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Apr 12, 2017 00:12
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The theme of Persona 5 is much better: Never Trust The Cops, If You Believe In Your Gun It Will Be Real.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:15
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Moltrey posted:Remember That You Will Die Hey it's really cool that all the characters are linked by having someone close to them die, that's pretty interesting. Oh hey Fuuka, what's up?
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Apr 12, 2017 00:15
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Arist posted:Hey it's really cool that all the characters are linked by having someone close to them die, that's pretty interesting. Oh hey Fuuka, what's up? leaving her trapped in her Personas' weird orb tummy that she stood in all the time
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Apr 12, 2017 00:16
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Makoto is consistently great, because of what she gets up to before she joins the party. She follows you around pretending to read a book, and gets really flustered when you go and talk to her. She doesn;t just follow you in school either.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:17
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Currently early November, blindsided by the proficiency requirement for Haru. I'm slowly maxing out the Confidants that I care about, but the ones that join late always throw a wrench in my plans because you more or less have to do them every time they're available or you just narrowly miss maxing them out. It's so annoying I'm considering rushing Fortune to make up for lost time overday, but every night I spend with Fortune is another night I'm not raising proficiency. What to do, what to do.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:17
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How much proficiency do I need to go from rank 4 to rank 5? Locked from doing the Empress confidant and she's the one I was gunning for from the start since she uses axes. I've hung out with the gun dude and made a bunch of tools and I'm still rank 4
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Apr 12, 2017 00:17
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It's more thematically consistent than P4, which really loses track of what it's trying to do in the back half of the game. P4 has better characters and mechanics overall, and in some ways it's paced better, but it's not as cohesive and affecting a narrative as P3. Neither of them approach the level of harmony between gameplay and theme we see in P5, though.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:18
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Moltrey posted:Remember That You Will Die shinji dies anyway & the later is from the trashheap that is persona 4 arena (and even then elizabeth all but says that the only way she can actually bring him back without issue is if all humans everywhere become perfect beings that never ever have bad emotions)
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Apr 12, 2017 00:21
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Baby Babbeh posted:It's more thematically consistent than P4, which really loses track of what it's trying to do in the back half of the game. P4 has better characters and mechanics overall, and in some ways it's paced better, but it's not as cohesive and affecting a narrative as P3. Neither of them approach the level of harmony between gameplay and theme we see in P5, though. P4 sticks to its guns, its theme is just kind of vague and hazy (or foggy, haw haw haw) compared to Memento Mori. It's about avoiding easy answers and being true to yourself, and the final arcs consist of avoiding a lot of red herrings while squaring off against the theme's antithesis in Adachi, a screechy r/redpill poster playing criminal mastermind. P3's theme had more clarity but its execution seemed almost totally limited to the main character, who eventually started to feel like he was taking second billing to Aigis and her tedious Pinocchio complex.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:21
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I think the latter half is honestly where P4's theme starts to come together
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Apr 12, 2017 00:22
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P4's writing is seriously thrown off by how everything in the whole world has to orbit around the titanic boner of yu narukami lifelong friends chie and yukiko interact with eachother without narukami being in the room maybe 5 times in the entire 80 hour game (and one of those is the hot springs scene), meanwhile in P3 junpei and yukari hang out at the shrine and poo poo without you on the weekends not to mention poo poo like yosuke being an obvious paralel/mirror of adachi not being mentioned at all outside of one offhand line because he's The Comic Relief and doesn't get to actually do anything besides talk for the protagonist and complain about a girl he superficially knew for like a week
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Apr 12, 2017 00:24
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Moltrey posted:Remember That You Will Die Shinji dies anyways even if you do bring him back, and the other thing isn't even in Persona 3 at all.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:25
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nanako should've stayed dead, dojima shoulda been the killer
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Apr 12, 2017 00:26
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Zore posted:More people than Haru should have gotten Gun skills tbh. I actually really like his rifle since you can fish for crits with it. It's even better with one of the Tower abilities that doubles your maximum ammo.
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Apr 12, 2017 00:29
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Moltrey posted:nanako should've stayed dead 
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Apr 12, 2017 00:30
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Nothing in this game so far has topped Yusuke's rank 5 scene. It is amazing and even if you never use Yusuke and don't intend on maxing Proficiency (which you need to go beyond rank 5) it is worth it. Also I'm in like mid-August and I've only ranked Ryuji's Confidant and I have a couple others at rank 8 but my Knowledge is 4 and everything else is rank 3 aaaaa I'm not gonna get a bunch of these done at all! At least Sun will max next rank. At the very least I wanted to max out Death and Priestess but my Charm just isn't raising fast enough! Sun and Devil stopped giving me extra charm at later ranks!
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Apr 12, 2017 00:30
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darealkooky posted:shinji dies anyway & the later is from the trashheap that is persona 4 arena (and even then elizabeth all but says that the only way she can actually bring him back without issue is if all humans everywhere become perfect beings that never ever have bad emotions) Saagonsa posted:Shinji dies anyways even if you do bring him back, and the other thing isn't even in Persona 3 at all. the elizabeth thing is still real dumb tho and them actually completing that plot thread would be so lame darealkooky posted:P4's writing is seriously thrown off by how everything in the whole world has to orbit around the titanic boner of yu narukami dumb rear end grey hair at 16 bowl cut whitebread nerd And yeah it's loving insane how much better the Persona 5 cast is as a unit, even for how early I am. Like the scene we see of Goro and Makoto meeting at the university classes they take because they're both smart 3rd years did not and just could not happen with Persona 4's writing. Not only that, but there are scenes with Sojiro and Yusuke, Sojiro with the group without the MC being there, scenes with Makoto and Sae, it's just a lot more of simple but advanced enough writing to make it feel astronomical compared to Persona 4, where it feels like no one ever does anything until Yu walks into the room Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Apr 12, 2017 00:34
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nanako came back to life because a cognitive entity that gained sentience loved her hard enough
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Apr 12, 2017 00:36
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Persona 5: You're too tired to read this thread also whoo, fourth palace. that was something!
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Apr 12, 2017 00:44
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Moltrey posted:the elizabeth thing is still real dumb tho and them actually completing that plot thread would be so lame that's a far cry from nanako coming back to life via the power of mascot love and yu picking a series of arbitrary choices
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Apr 12, 2017 00:44
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Intoluene posted:That was the friend option in rank 9. She genuinely seemed let down that you only see her as a friend. Haru is charmingly hopelessly a romantic, and even puts a lampshade that she always really dreamed of being rescued, which feeds into her actualization as a Persona user as someone who saves herself. I felt the same as you letting her down because Makoto is best girl, though
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Apr 12, 2017 00:51
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Bogart posted:The theme of Persona 5 is much better: Never Trust The Cops, If You Believe In Your Gun It Will Be Real. I laughed pretty hard at this, thanks.
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Apr 12, 2017 01:03
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Bogart posted:The theme of Persona 5 is much better: Never Trust The Cops, If You Believe In Your Gun It Will Be Real. 
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Apr 12, 2017 01:10
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Seems pretty obvious who this Alibaba guy is.
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Question for the very very end: I've already talked to everyone I maxed (disappointingly few I might add), but there's still three story ones I haven't met. I don't expect anything with Justice obviously, and I assume Magician will be later if at all, but is there anything with Fool? I just worry because I ran into Sae and she gave me something. Also I don't wanna go back to six Persona slots.
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