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Nevvy Z posted:It's not a rant, it's a reference to a local political issue that 99.% of readers were completely unaware of. But since it's about religion... lmao would you be doing all these retarded mental gymnastics to excuse what he did if it was anyone other than a Muslim guy?
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Nevvy Z posted:It's not a rant, it's a reference to a local political issue that 99.% of readers were completely unaware of. But since it's about religion... It's about time for you to just get on board with the fact that you're on the wrong side of this. It doesn't matter what your interpretation of the verse is. It doesn't matter what anyone's interpretation of the verse is. The only thing that matters is the fact that it was used to further the message of a political movement that has no place being presented in these books. The religion part isn't the problem here, it's the political movement that's being pushed here that is the problem. It's been explained in depth by people with more knowledge on this issue than you or I. The artist goofed up, admitted what and why did what he did, and now he's paying the price that is fair for his actions. End of story.
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X-O posted:It's about time for you to just get on board with the fact that you're on the wrong side of this. It doesn't matter what your interpretation of the verse is. It doesn't matter what anyone's interpretation of the verse is. The only thing that matters is the fact that it was used to further the message of a political movement that has no place being presented in these books. The religion part isn't the problem here, it's the political movement that's being pushed here that is the problem. It's been explained in depth by people with more knowledge on this issue than you or I. The artist goofed up, admitted what and why did what he did, and now he's paying the price that is fair for his actions. End of story. The only side I'm on is that all these people proclaiming that this is hate speech are idiots. Yet they can't seem to stop proclaiming over and over how terrible it is.  See below. I don't know what the "standard response" is to an artist throwing a subtle reference to something they care about into a work, but I don't think they usually get fired until some idiot starts calling marvel accusing them of hate crimes.Lightning Lord posted:Below No it's not. you are wrong and dumb. But this isn't the place Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Nevvy Z posted:The only side I'm on is that all these people proclaiming that this is anti-Semitic hate speech are idiots. Yet they can't seem to stop proclaiming over and over how terrible it is. You're right, for once this is actual anti-Christian hate speech.
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What a weird hill to die on.
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It's a group calling for the removal of a governor in Indonesia because he's Christian and using that passage as justification not just for that but putting him on trial for blasphemy. What else is that but blind intolerance?
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Apr 12, 2017 13:24
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man, whenever gurihiru aren't on gwenpool 
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So turns out in the Renew Your Vows universe Logan is married to Jean and they have a daughter. For some context for the RYW universe The Civil War never happened in this universe because Xavier and the Avengers are like super cops who watch over heroes and potential heroes so they won't gently caress up, so the SHRA would never happen. That's why Charles went looking for Annie May. This pissed off Cyclops, because he doesn't think Chuck should be one of the top cops of America, Jean took Chuck's side and they broke up for good, so she married Logan.
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Also, the daughter's name is Kate, her moniker is 'Shine' (not that she needs it, she's like 3), and she's adorable.
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Onmi posted:So turns out in the Renew Your Vows universe Logan is married to Jean and they have a daughter. This is the first time I've been angry at the Renew Your Vows universe. Nadia's neat science facts are  mixed with  Nadia's neat assassination facts on the other hand 
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Oh man I loved X-Men Blue. I think I liked it even more than I did X-Men Gold and that was quite a lot. I'm really happy that Hank is still trying to go with this magic thing. I don't think it's going to lead anywhere good and I love that. We all knew he was going to be in the book but the reveal of Magneto was done really well. I'm glad Bunn gets to continue writing him as he's done really well with the character. Also good to see the Jimmy Hudson stuff at the end. Can't wait to find out if this is a previously unknown 616 version of the character or if it's another 1610 transplant.
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Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I sawquote:'' But, Marvel's got Disney. Jewish so touched, so there is no mercy, '' he said. http://www.jpnn.com/news/ardian-syaf-yahudi-disinggung-ya-tidak-ada-ampun?page=2
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw Jeez...talk about dying on a hill....
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw Sure, but what did he really mean by this.
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Maybe he's planning on running to replace the governor they want to get rid of.
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw I'm glad he's out of the game for good. Definitely don't want to support anything this guy had a hand in.
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I usually don't mind Haynes' art (although of course Gurihiru is the best) but what the hell happened to this issue of Gwenpool
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw There's been rumours and stories for years that Walt Disney may well have been a wee bit of an anti-Semite.
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Wheat Loaf posted:There's been rumours and stories for years that Walt Disney may well have been a wee bit of an anti-Semite.
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Endless Mike posted:I would not be surprised in the least, but that's not terribly relevant to The Walt Disney Company in 2017, which is run by a Jewish man. Oh, I know, I just thought it was sort of funny to note that he's complaining about Disney when Walt Disney himself had this reputation. It's not really relevant, as you say.
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howe_sam posted:This is the first time I've been angry at the Renew Your Vows universe. to be fair, this choice has clearly worked out better for the both of them considering they aren't dead and replaced by time displaced versions of themselves
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Also Scott is better with Emma anyway. The only thing I didn't like in this issue was Jubilee is a double agent working for Magneto
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Pureauthor posted:I usually don't mind Haynes' art (although of course Gurihiru is the best) but what the hell happened to this issue of Gwenpool it literally looked like half-finished. which is a shame because the actual story was really fun
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Onmi posted:Also Scott is better with Emma anyway. The only thing I didn't like in this issue was Jubilee is a double agent working for Magneto The "C'mon, stop scaring them, they're just kids" line is kinda foreshadowing in giant neon highlights that she'll decide he's taking it too far and turn against Magneto at the last second to save Annie/Shine etc etc.
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Lurdiak posted:My favorite Neil Gaiman comic is Marvel 1488. oh dang i didn't know Gaiman was involved in Secret Empire
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw Where's Nevvy Z to come back to keep defending him?
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Hell i want Nevy to tell us what this is actually about. All he has done so far has been smug and vague.
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I just want him to post again so he'll eat a ban for promoting hate speech
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Endless Mike posted:Syaf did an interview with an Indonesian outlet. Chrome's translation isn't great, but I saw Welp. That is not a dude who should be working for anyone.
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Given enough time and space and apologies I could have seen him maybe being given a chance again to draw. Not at Marvel but perhaps DC since he had a decent tenure there and probably still has some good contacts there. But nope. Not now. If his career wasn't totally dead before it drat sure is now. Maybe when you're accused of inserting messages of religious intolerance and ask to be forgiven your first move shouldn't be to blame the Jews. Just spitballing here though. I've never been in the position myself so who am I to give advice?
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Kate is probably one of the few people in the Marvel U that could actually have some kind of normal relationship with Gwenpool.
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Hastings please make Gwen gay tia
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Make Spider-man bi and make out with Batman.
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Make my slash fic about Martinex loving Prince Crystar real goddamnit!
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Lurdiak posted:Make Spider-man bi and make out with Batman. Johnny's gonna be mad when he finds out Pete's cheating on him
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site posted:I just want him to post again so he'll eat a ban for promoting hate speech "212" and "QS59". Hate speech.  twistedmentat posted:Kate is probably one of the few people in the Marvel U that could actually have some kind of normal relationship with Gwenpool. Is Pete too old for her? I loved the rotating cast of girlfriends and writers we had during BND. Edit- Everything about unstoppable wasp is perfect. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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Nevvy Z posted:"212" and "QS59". Hate speech. It's a reference to a movement to have a politician arrested for his religion. 14 and 88. Hate speech
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Nevy explain what this political movement is, I am genuinely curious what you think it is. I suspect you are trolling considering how you refuse to use any details at all.
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Almost every person who has purchased X-Men Gold since Sunday has commented on the controversy but only one person has actually bothered to be informed about it. The bulk of them think the word JEWELRY and Kitty being Jewish is what's causing the hub bub.
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