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Timby posted:Sulu's first name is literally in the first line of dialogue in The Undiscovered Country. It is not in TOS at all, however -- not even in the writer's bible. It was invented for a licensed novel.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Says the guy named Nessus. But, on the other hand, I agree. I keep thinking now and then, why hasn't anyone ever made a Ringworld/Known Space movie or show? But on the gripping hand, I'd rather see some of his other works translated first.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 07:44 |
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MikeJF posted:If we ever get a new feature series that revisits the Borg, I really want to see a Colony Scoop. Oh god yes. The shot of the giant hole where the New Providence colony was at the beginning of BoBW is one of my favourite matte paintings/background extensions. It has a wonderful sense of scale.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 07:51 |
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Tunicate posted:Who was it who wanted to do the Kzinti wars? Me ! You can start off with some really classic Poul Anderson stuff. I don't know if I'd have rather had more Polesotechnic League material or what he did for MKW, but I really like what he did do in Known Space. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Apr 12, 2017 |
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Do the Kiznti have some Trek specific back story somewhere? I know they were on a liscenced map or something one time but Known Space is way different from Trek history so how would they be anything more then bad cat aliens? Ringworld is extremely 70s and would be hard to boil down into a movie, especially with out at least a little background set up of Known Space.
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sunday at work posted:Do the Kiznti have some Trek specific back story somewhere? I know they were on a liscenced map or something one time but Known Space is way different from Trek history so how would they be anything more then bad cat aliens? They're in TAS
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 14:26 |
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sunday at work posted:Do the Kiznti have some Trek specific back story somewhere? I know they were on a liscenced map or something one time but Known Space is way different from Trek history so how would they be anything more then bad cat aliens? They were in a TAS episode called "The Slaver Weapon" basically D.C. Fontana and Larry Niven were friends and she got him to do a find and replace on one of his existing stories to make it a Star Trek episode. It's a great episode, but introducing a never-before-mentioned Federation war with a bunch of cat dudes doesn't sit right with a certain set of fans who insist "canon" and "Star Trek" belong in the same sentence.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 14:27 |
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One of the most prominent episodes of "The TAS colourist is colourblind and can't see the difference between pinks and greys and browns". Literally, that's not a joke, it shows up a bunch. The Klingons have pink uniforms, the tribbles are pink, so on so forth.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:27 |
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MikeJF posted:
Those space-cats are HUGE
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 15:31 |
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MikeJF posted:
So what kind of supernatural entity do you have to cut a deal with to get to be a colorblind colorist, anyway? Did he piss of a genie or was this one of those mysterious little shop that wasn't there before scenarios?
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He also did He-Man.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 16:16 |
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Re: ENT season 3 Space 9/11 has happened, and Archer is now Space George Bush, has Space Navy SEALs on the ship, and is chasing Space Terrorists using Space
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Duckbag posted:So what kind of supernatural entity do you have to cut a deal with to get to be a colorblind colorist, anyway? Did he piss of a genie or was this one of those mysterious little shop that wasn't there before scenarios? Pretty much the entire budget of TAS went on Shatner & co; say what you will about the results, but you don't get better value for money than with a colour-blind colourist!
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:11 |
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The Dark One posted:But on the gripping hand, I'd rather see some of his other works translated first. I wouldn't be against that either, but Known Space is just swimming in my favorite sci-fi subgenre: arbitrarily advanced ancient alien artifacts. I do think the Moties would translate well enough into Trek with a slightly different technobabble reason they couldn't use warp travel to leave their own system. sunday at work posted:Do the Kiznti have some Trek specific back story somewhere? I know they were on a liscenced map or something one time but Known Space is way different from Trek history so howk would they be anything more then bad cat aliens? Do it JMS-style where you start a TV show out as just adventures in Known Space, and then drop the Ringworld in season 2 or something. I don't even care if it's like Once Upon A Time levels of budget TV cgi, that's good enough to pass for me now.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 18:30 |
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MikeJF posted:
I have heard this many times before, but I still don't understand something... Why didn't anyone tell him he was loving up the colors? I mean, surely someone had to have noticed early in production.
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According to Memory Alpha, it was Hal Sutherland who was the director of the first season. It says the art department corrected some of the issues but not all of them. I don't understand how that would even happen. Was he just going to the artists and saying "I want this color" and then no one mentions he pointed at pink?
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Cojawfee posted:According to Memory Alpha, it was Hal Sutherland who was the director of the first season. It says the art department corrected some of the issues but not all of them. I don't understand how that would even happen. Was he just going to the artists and saying "I want this color" and then no one mentions he pointed at pink? That amount of not giving a gently caress sounds about right for a 70's cartoon.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 19:10 |
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Pakled posted:That amount of not giving a gently caress sounds about right for a 70's cartoon. Particularly a Filmation cartoon.
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# ? Apr 12, 2017 19:26 |
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See also: Doohan voicing every alien It's a miracle TAS wasn't just Gene and DC Fontana doodling stick figures and thought bubbles for 24 minutes.
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Pakled posted:That amount of not giving a gently caress sounds about right for a 70's cartoon. they were probably all high all the time anyway
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vermin posted:Those space-cats are HUGE
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Railing Kill posted:Re: ENT season 3
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FlamingLiberal posted:Still ridiculous that they decide to launch their test weapon on the actual target instead of, you know, something closer and one that won't give away their plans. Even worse, we find out later that they were already doing tests of the weapon on moons. Hahaha. I hadn't even thought of that. I as too busy thinking... ..."They remixed the theme song, and it is somehow worse than before." ..."Why is T'Pol's hair sandy brown now? Does The Expanse gently caress with Vulcan hair follicles for some reason?" ..."Whatever was recording that Vulcan ship's impression of the Event Horizon sure did do a lot of editing for a shipboard CCTV." ..."Trip's actor is trying way too hard to be angsty about his sister dying. I liked him better when he was the fun cool party guy." ..."Phlox seems hell-bent on getting T'Pol and Trip to bone. Not sure why. Maybe everyone else on the ship are like pets to him?"
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Railing Kill posted:Hahaha. I hadn't even thought of that. I as too busy thinking... Basically. All their weird morals are very quaint and he wants to mess with them for science.
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# ? Apr 13, 2017 01:18 |
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There's something very Robert California about Phlox.
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Nessus posted:Yeah, the Kzin are supposed to be all seven-footers and up, which admittedly is probably one of the other challenges of using them on live TV. In animation it's less difficult I don't know what vermin meant but it looks like they took a stock arctic mountain background and just put the Kzinti behind it to turn it into a foreground, which makes them look like Shadow of the Colossus sized.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Still ridiculous that they decide to launch their test weapon on the actual target instead of, you know, something closer and one that won't give away their plans. Even worse, we find out later that they were already doing tests of the weapon on moons. You can't seriously be blaming them for blowing up Florida the first chance they got.
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# ? Apr 13, 2017 03:14 |
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Even future Florida is still Flordia.
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Now I'm going to mentally replace any mention of Trip with Florida Man.
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# ? Apr 13, 2017 03:53 |
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So, galaxy's child. That's uh... That's a giant space vagina right?
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Kingtheninja posted:So, galaxy's child. That's uh... That's a giant space vagina right? Grizzled TOS red shirt veteran in a rocking chair refilling his corncob pipe "...yessr...that's a space vagina...I seen one before...V'ger incident...2271."
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Brawnfire posted:There's something very Robert California about Phlox. I'm pretty sure Robert California was a Q
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vermin posted:"Guinan you could have saved billions of lives. Why didn't you tell anyone?" Look, she never claimed to be from a race of talkers.
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e: ^^^roffleFlamingLiberal posted:Still ridiculous that they decide to launch their test weapon on the actual target instead of, you know, something closer and one that won't give away their plans. Even worse, we find out later that they were already doing tests of the weapon on moons. I... can't believe I never caught that. Also, what moons? Satellites in our own solar system? Please say no. God dammit. You've destroyed my ability to appreciate the Xindi arc for what it is (which, granted, was perilously tenuous at best). Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Apr 13, 2017 |
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Oh thanks, Thinkgeek. No, I'm good.
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# ? Apr 13, 2017 11:23 |
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It's no ST6 Collector's Edition Blanket. Which existed as a piece of merchandise entirely because the director wanted one for himself.
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Orv posted:Basically. All their weird morals are very quaint and he wants to mess with them for science. As long as someone derails the Archer/T'Pol awkward, forced sexual tension, I'm good. If it takes an alien being a weirdly obtrusive matchmaker, I'll take it. Evek posted:Now I'm going to mentally replace any mention of Trip with Florida Man. "Florida Man is impregnated during first contact with an alien species." "Florida Man nearly dies in a desert after complaining incessantly about deserts." "Florida Man is left tied up and naked in a wine cellar after trying to seduce terrorists."
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# ? Apr 13, 2017 12:13 |
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On my first full run-through of TOS, I'm almost done with season 2 (just the stealth pilot "Assignment: Earth" is left). I gotta say, the second half of this season kinda falls off a cliff. "Bread and Circuses" actually isn't a bad episode, but it has virtually the same exact plot as half the other episodes in this run. Out of the past 9 episodes, FOUR have dealt with a planet "remarkably like Earth" where the civilization developed in a way that explicitly parallels a certain period in Earth's history. ("A Private Little War" almost counts as a fifth, but it's a little more vague in that they resemble prehistoric civilization more than anything else.) And 3 of these 4 episodes involve a Starfleet captain who beamed down to the planet and influenced their development somehow. Watching these episodes so close to each other is kind of exhausting. Whatever you can say about the other shows, I don't think any of them had a run of episodes quite as repetitive as this. (Even worse, one of the episodes that didn't follow this formula instead followed the "Kirk talks a computer to death" formula.) "Its five-year mission: to seek out civilizations that look exactly like Earth. To boldly check up on guys who went there before."
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Hipster_Doofus posted:e: ^^^roffle Honestly, for its problems, I would still rewatch that before seasons 1-2. At least it felt like they were trying to shake things up. It didn't all work, but I give them credit for the effort.
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The_Doctor posted:Oh thanks, Thinkgeek. No, I'm good. Wow, even my pillows outrank me.
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