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Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
I've recently gotten into playing games from my childhood. I have a pile of NES, SNES, and PS1 games I've been farting around with, but I'm ignorant to gems from other systems. Can I solicite anyone for recommendations? I'm very curious about Sega and N64. I have Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in mind, but beyond that I'm not sure what to check out.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

MinibarMatchman posted:

Scorpio is going to to funny because for all the power it wants to bring, Microsoft doesn't loving get it. PS2 was weaker than the Gamecube or the Xbox but it had a godlike library of games. Xbone alone already cancelled poo poo like Scalebound and Phantom Dust and has to look down the barrel of the ridiculous 2017 gluttony of PS4 exclusives.
I've never understood how difficult it was to understand/get across the idea that if you have a good library you'll do probably do well.

Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax
Blast corps is great, its kind of a vehicular destruction game but really an awful lot of n64 games have aged terribly

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Macarius Wrench posted:

Blast corps is great, its kind of a vehicular destruction game but really an awful lot of n64 games have aged terribly

I wonder how well a remake would work today with updated graphics and all that.
The vehicles would still have to control like poo poo because that's pretty much the entire gameplay.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

MinibarMatchman posted:

Scorpio is going to to funny because for all the power it wants to bring, Microsoft doesn't loving get it. PS2 was weaker than the Gamecube or the Xbox but it had a godlike library of games. Xbone alone already cancelled poo poo like Scalebound and Phantom Dust and has to look down the barrel of the ridiculous 2017 gluttony of PS4 exclusives.

Their last E3 conference was all about how all Xbox One exclusives would also be on PC so idk what they're even doing anymore

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

I mean if you want Genesis games to play Sega has been pretty good about throwing the usual suspects in all their collections.

Not that you can't just emulate them but there's been like insanely cheap bundles for all the Genesis games they've put on Steam. Also the M2 3D versions of Genesis games on the 3DS.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Played PE2 a couple years ago- sorta clunky in this day and age but playing as some kinda bio-gun-mage was pretty awesome and the further into the game you get the more ridiculous the possible setups get.

No mercy for weird PS1-rendered monstrosities

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

That's a bummer, that was such a cool system, especially because it was stupidly easy to realize how busted it was and how to make OP ARs, sniper rifles and what not.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I'm probably gonna play 3rd Birthday next even though people say it sucks

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Wildtortilla posted:

I've recently gotten into playing games from my childhood. I have a pile of NES, SNES, and PS1 games I've been farting around with, but I'm ignorant to gems from other systems. Can I solicite anyone for recommendations? I'm very curious about Sega and N64. I have Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in mind, but beyond that I'm not sure what to check out.
Diddy Kong Racing is an unappreciated racer/collectathon??? that is probably better than Mario kart 64 in terms of single-player.

On that note if you play one Rare platformer collectathon on that system, make it Banjo-Kazooie. Don't bother with Donkey Kong 64.

I would not play GoldenEye in 2017, but Perfect Dark has probably aged moderately better.

Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask if for some reason you don't have a 3DS.

Mischief Makers for some good Treasure action, though good luck finding a cartridge. Same story for Sin & Punishment.

Paper Mario is not as good as Thousand Year Door but it's still pretty great and a lot better than any other non-TTYD Paper Mario.

Star Fox 64 was the last good SF game.

Pokemon Snap is surprisingly a lot of fun and addicting.

WAVE RACE! (pretend I said this in the announcer's voice)

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire is probably going to be very frustrating to play in 2017 but I would be remiss to not mention it.

Turok 2 if you don't want to bother with the recent Steam release which is probably a lot better.

Pilot Wings 64.

Blast Corps.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Nate RFB posted:

I've never understood how difficult it was to understand/get across the idea that if you have a good library you'll do probably do well.

tbh WiiU also tried this for a bit when MK8, Smash Bros, and Bayonetta 2 came out in 2014, the year after 3D World and Tropical Freeze, but they ran out of steam after that. It was a slow death besides Splatoon.

Help Im Alive posted:

Their last E3 conference was all about how all Xbox One exclusives would also be on PC so idk what they're even doing anymore

If the Xbox guys haven't poo poo themselves yet anticipating even this year, it would impress me. After the last two A++ shows idk what they would have to do to overtake what Sony shows off.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

raditts posted:

The "family friendly" Nintendo image only ever applied to Nintendo of America anyway, didn't it? Back in the NES / SNES days they were infamous for bowdlerizing games for US release, removing blood and naughty language and all that, and even up to today when weeaboos rage about how characters are changed to dress more modestly or can't date their siblings or whatever.

I think it was more NoA at first, but like others pointed out, the Wii era definitely went for family friendliness in all regions. Nintendo basically leaned into it. Their western pre-release marketing for the Wii U seemed to insist that it would be a system for "core gamers" as well as families, which would explain the smattering of third party titles not aimed at kids/families like Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade X. Their first party titles are always family-friendly though.

I think they probably have a better shot with the Switch if they can draw in more third parties. Its gimmick is a little easier to make a game around than the Wii's insistence on motion control or the Wii U's dual screens.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Wildtortilla posted:

I've recently gotten into playing games from my childhood. I have a pile of NES, SNES, and PS1 games I've been farting around with, but I'm ignorant to gems from other systems. Can I solicite anyone for recommendations? I'm very curious about Sega and N64. I have Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in mind, but beyond that I'm not sure what to check out.

Megadrive/Genesis games worth playing off the top of my head Sonic 2/3&Knuckles, Streets of Rage 2, Revenge of Shinobi and Shinobi 3, Castlevania Bloodlines, Contra Hard CORPS, Decap Attack, anything made by Treasure, Wonderboy in Monsterland. There's a ton more but that's plenty already.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Wildtortilla posted:

I've recently gotten into playing games from my childhood. I have a pile of NES, SNES, and PS1 games I've been farting around with, but I'm ignorant to gems from other systems. Can I solicite anyone for recommendations? I'm very curious about Sega and N64. I have Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in mind, but beyond that I'm not sure what to check out.

If you like JRPGs, Phantasy Star 4 on Genesis is pretty rad. Also the Shining Force games.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

In Training posted:

I'm probably gonna play 3rd Birthday next even though people say it sucks

Please don't. It does worse things to Aya than Other M did to Samus.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

'Aya'

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012


I stand by my statement.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

In Training posted:

I'm probably gonna play 3rd Birthday next even though people say it sucks

Ok, but it does suck

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

The general gameplay in Third Birthday is more successful at what it's trying to do than Other M but everything else is probably worse.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Hopefully it goes on sale during the spring sale

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Sakurazuka posted:

The general gameplay in Third Birthday is more successful at what it's trying to do than Other M but everything else is probably worse.

No, the gameplay is also terrible.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Oh, I've only ever heard criticisms of the story. I can tolerate a game with bad story and interesting gameplay but if the gameplay sucks too I'll just skip it

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Wildtortilla posted:

I've recently gotten into playing games from my childhood. I have a pile of NES, SNES, and PS1 games I've been farting around with, but I'm ignorant to gems from other systems. Can I solicite anyone for recommendations? I'm very curious about Sega and N64. I have Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in mind, but beyond that I'm not sure what to check out.
I'm just gonna say, you should very, very heavily consider looking at your library's contents on Ebay and getting any digital versions available, and sell the carts to hardcore crazies for bonkers prices. I recently unloaded my SNES collection for ~2.5 grand, where most of them were available as ports on other platforms/much cheaper versions(like FF6 for GBA, or Chrono Trigger for the DS)

But if you're looking for N64 stuff to play, I'd say give Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie a shot. They're classic 3D platformers and I always liked the humor in them. Maybe Jet Force Gemini, though that hasn't aged well. For multiplayer games I heartily recommend the first Snowboard Kids, I played the poo poo out of that with my friends, though it was also fun alone(the AI rubberbands like a motherfucker though).

Seconding recommendations by NateRFB for Mischief Makers, Pokemon Snap, Star Fox 64 and Pilotwings 64. Dunno why there's apparently a lot of hate for PW64, I had a lot of fun in the various modes and the music was pretty great, especially the chill ones.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
Man I wish there was a pc port of the underrated dreamcast game toy commander

That game owns. Did any of you ever get a chance to play it?


....have any of you even heard of it? :v:

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

I remember Toy Commander but I never played it

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Harrow posted:

I think it was more NoA at first, but like others pointed out, the Wii era definitely went for family friendliness in all regions. Nintendo basically leaned into it. Their western pre-release marketing for the Wii U seemed to insist that it would be a system for "core gamers" as well as families, which would explain the smattering of third party titles not aimed at kids/families like Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade X. Their first party titles are always family-friendly though.

Fair enough, admittedly I can't really think of any games on the Wii that are not kid-friendly.

Sakurazuka posted:

The Famicom literally stands for family computer....

Golgo-13 and its sequel, games where you're a sniper who assassinates high profile targets and bangs ladies in every city you travel to: fun for the whole family on the Family Computer
Oddly, also managed to make it to the US with seemingly none of that censored, although I've never seen the Japanese versions for comparison.

raditts fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Apr 13, 2017

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



In Training posted:

Oh, I've only ever heard criticisms of the story. I can tolerate a game with bad story and interesting gameplay but if the gameplay sucks too I'll just skip it

The gameplay is definitely bad. Not nearly as bad as the story but it's not worth playing.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Sakurazuka posted:

I remember Toy Commander but I never played it


It's really good!

I've always said it is like a dreamcast version of blast corps, but idk how apt of a comparison that is. Basically, in Toy Commander, a bunch of old toys are mad that you don't play with them anymore so they organized a rebellion and each of the toys took over a room of the house. You go from room to room doing missions like races, traversing mazes, putting out fires, cooking an egg, killing a giant lizard stomping through a toy city, bombing ships, escorting toy soldiers, all these various different things in order to try to take the rooms back. Each mission has a time trial element to it where if you complete enough missions under the record time then you unlock the ability to fight the boss of that room. Defeat the boss and you'll be able to play as them in the final room when you go to fight the final boss.




The game's ending is weird though. It ends with you beating the final boss and him talking about how he's sorry and that it's just that he was jealous that you don't play with him or the other old toys anymore and that he just wants you to remember your old toys, to never forget them when you get older. Then you play a final mission where you're flying a toy commercial airliner around the room you were fighting the final boss in. You land the plane to pick up some passengers, then when you take off the game cuts to a scene of the plane flying off towards some models of mountains and then it reveals the whole game has actually been the dream of a plane pilot who fell asleep at the cockpit and is about to crash the plane into some mountains,
except he gets woken up just in time by a flight attendant and he manages to avoid crashing the plane.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


FirstAidKite posted:

The game's ending is weird though. It ends with you beating the final boss and him talking about how he's sorry and that it's just that he was jealous that you don't play with him or the other old toys anymore and that he just wants you to remember your old toys, to never forget them when you get older. Then you play a final mission where you're flying a toy commercial airliner around the room you were fighting the final boss in. You land the plane to pick up some passengers, then when you take off the game cuts to a scene of the plane flying off towards some models of mountains and then it reveals the whole game has actually been the dream of a plane pilot who fell asleep at the cockpit and is about to crash the plane into some mountains,
except he gets woken up just in time by a flight attendant and he manages to avoid crashing the plane.


Hahaha, what the gently caress? Talk about your "you die in the game, you die in real life" situations.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Googling Toy Commander brings up like 80% torrents of the .iso

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

raditts posted:

Fair enough, admittedly I can't really think of any games on the Wii that are not kid-friendly.

Looking at it again, I think it's sort of like: Nintendo's first-party titles are almost always family-friendly, and NoA's stance on third-party titles has changed over time in regards to what content gets changed in localization to make it more family-friendly. The reason the Wii has almost exclusively kid/family games is because it has few non-shovelware third-party games, and almost all of the lovely shovelware games on the Wii are only on the Wii because it had a huge install base and it was the best way to get kids/their parents to buy the games.

By the time the Wii U came around, NoA had loosened up on its content policy, but the third-party games still didn't really come in, and so Nintendo kept its family-friendly reputation. Meanwhile the 3DS has a surprising amount of M-rated games for a Nintendo handheld, like SMT4/Apocalypse, MGS3, Zero Escape/Zero Time Dilemma, Resident Evil: Revelations, and Persona Q (that was M-rated?).

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Harrow posted:

Persona Q (that was M-rated?).

For some reason

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

You can drink I think which makes it an automatic M rating

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Oh yeah I forget about all the dick demons

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

raditts posted:

Hahaha, what the gently caress? Talk about your "you die in the game, you die in real life" situations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oarjw68O95E

There's a vid of it.


That's the second time you see him. The first is in the intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn7BSEuAvCQ

So yeah it's just a really weird out-there thing lol

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax
Just shy of 200 hours into Binding of Isaac and I just unlocked an entirely new area. Granted it's something that was only recently added in via the Afterbirth+ DLC, but still. :toot:

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Found a japanese guy uploading rain world videos to YouTube who does cute art for the thumbnails

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Andrast posted:

For some reason



How do I always forget about Mara?

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!
Cute but I think only me and you played Rain World on SA

Thinking about picking up Cosmic Star Heroine but the only other Zeboyd game I played was PA 3 and that didn't really hold my interest

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Not a Children posted:

Googling Toy Commander brings up like 80% torrents of the .iso

Dreamcast has like no copyright protection and at this point I don't feel bad burning stuff I can't find anywhere else and playing it; it owns

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