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Data Graham posted:I don't believe you. Let's see your data It's just going to be bigpharma propaganda anyway. 
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Avian Pneumonia posted:Anyone have any luck working with the anti-vaxx crowd? I know they are notoriously dumb and unable to turn but are there any exceptionally good/convincing articles or studies I can link to? I'm only barely joking, the only thing that seems to effectively change these people's minds is when they gently caress it all up and get to see what bouts of measles or some poo poo sweeping a population looks like.
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Apr 14, 2017 18:59
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Ashcans posted:You could try giving them TB, or maybe polio. This probably won't actually change their mind at all, but on the plus side if they die from a terrible disease that can be prevented through a simple vaccine, it might motivate people in their social circle to change their mind. Googled out of curiosity, polio viruses are biosafety level two - so "potentially dangerous, be careful" but not the extravagant safety measures of 3 or the "wear a full biohazard suit and go through a decontamination chamber at the end of your workday" of 4. Makes sense.
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Apr 15, 2017 02:59
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Shbobdb posted:Be mindful of the timeframe of any graphs/trends they show or discuss. For obvious reasons, the Great Depression and WWII caused a spike in illnesses. That can make it look like the disease rate was dropping dramatically before vaccines were introduced (hygiene is usually the stated reason) and can even make the actual treatment of vaccines look just like part of a trend line. Yeah hygiene is obviously a bullshit reason The actual reason is that a lot more people became practitioners of sex magic and became impervious to disease. Sex magic is taboo in the third world so they still have measles and polio there
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Apr 15, 2017 03:12
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I would love to get smoke something bitch back in here to explain why Pizzagate is real.
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Apr 15, 2017 03:30
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WampaLord posted:I would love to get smoke something bitch back in here to explain why Pizzagate is real. It's basically just the word "sheeple" 10,000 times and random emails about pool parties.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:02
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To return this thread to its original intent I pressent to you all a big hokning hit of the good poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEUHfDz2ZEY You can literally skip to any portion of this video and you will find an equally hilarious stream of nonsense which exists in complete discoennection to any other stream of nonsense you will otherwise stumble upon. If you don't believe me then play this game with yourself: Skip forwards or backwards randomly 4-6 times, landing upon any point in this video you like. You will find a completely novel stream of nonsense being confidently explained to you by the most sanctimonious bullshit artist you have ever heard at every point, and you will furhter have no idea how any of them are supposed to tie together into some sort of theme. Michael Tsarion is truly a treat for the connoisseur of conspiracy snakeoil- only someone well versed in a variety of conspiracy theorists can truly appreciate just how good this rear end in a top hat is at reading and manipulating his target audience into believing that they are incredible geniuses for sitting there and nodding in agreement with every irrational statement he makes.
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Apr 15, 2017 04:22
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QuarkJets posted:Yeah hygiene is obviously a bullshit reason You outing yourself as an ardent antivaxxer makes you crazier than me by a wide margin.
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Apr 15, 2017 06:58
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Shbobdb posted:You outing yourself as an ardent antivaxxer makes you crazier than me by a wide margin. I'm not an antivaxxer Vaccinations are what make the sex magic work in the first place
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Apr 15, 2017 07:06
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Shbobdb posted:Be mindful of the timeframe of any graphs/trends they show or discuss. For obvious reasons, the Great Depression and WWII caused a spike in illnesses. That can make it look like the disease rate was dropping dramatically before vaccines were introduced (hygiene is usually the stated reason) and can even make the actual treatment of vaccines look just like part of a trend line. Compare:       
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Apr 15, 2017 08:22
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it's impossible to get through to an antivaxxer. i made the mistake of engaging someone from high school on facebook about it and it was obvious she and her friends would just bury you in bullshit and even if you responded to all their points they'd just dismiss it as establishment propaganda or something. it was obvious from their talking points that they were used to responding to people who were fairly ignorant (bringing up the vaccine court was a big one) and not someone who knew how to respond to all their talking points. the denmark study alone debunks everything they believe but linking that didn't sway them one bit. there's all sorts of studies "proving" their point but they don't seem to realize that the website they were using doesn't have true peer review.
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Apr 15, 2017 12:15
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um, excuse me, all of my peers reviewed that website and we all now believe that vaccines are tools of the pharmaceutical industrial complex to reduce the world population for the bilderberg group so that they can have their private islands back.
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Apr 15, 2017 13:32
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Ashcans posted:You could try giving them TB, or maybe polio. This probably won't actually change their mind at all, but on the plus side if they die from a terrible disease that can be prevented through a simple vaccine, it might motivate people in their social circle to change their mind. Not so much actualy Naturopathic 'doctor's kids - including a baby - get whooping cough. Possible complications include broken ribs, aneurysms and death. Antibiotics clear it up within about ten days. quote:Madilyn had been coughing for 60+ days. We hadn’t slept longer than 2 hours in months. UGGGGGH. Sleep, it’s for the select few parents who probably drug their kids or lock them in their rooms. That is not us. We read and cuddle to sleep every night. OH, how I just wanted to sleep for six hours straight for just one night, it would have been miraculous. The term “walking dead” described the new me. It was during this time, the first week in December that my husband sat me down, looked me in the eyes and said, “I trust you, but I am scared that one of our kids is going to die. You know it is just a matter of time before Millie develops whatever it is that Madilyn and Lucien have. It’s going to be bad, Heather. I think we need to go to the hospital. What are you thinking?”
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Apr 15, 2017 18:29
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Her examples of people just "getting through it" are two of the deadliest epidemics in human history. 
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Apr 15, 2017 18:47
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Things the Spanish Flu was more lethal than: World War loving One
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Apr 15, 2017 22:30
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the spanish flu was probably the most lethal event in human history (in terms of absolute numbers).
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Apr 15, 2017 22:33
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Have these people jumped to the point where they claim epidemics are a fabrication invented by the medical industry?
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Apr 15, 2017 22:33
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some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism, even the mainstream pro vaxxers are lowkey admitting it. There was this article on huffington post titled something like: Vaccines made my child autistic but I dont regret it. I guess they are arguably a necessary evil because of heard immunity and such but at the end of the day you cant blame people for not wanting to vaccinate their kids.
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Apr 16, 2017 06:14
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism, even the mainstream pro vaxxers are lowkey admitting it. There was this article on huffington post titled something like: Vaccines made my child autistic but I dont regret it. I guess they are arguably a necessary evil because of heard immunity and such but at the end of the day you cant blame people for not wanting to vaccinate their kids. What vaccines? Can you guess which direction IQs have been trending since the 60s? (It isn't down)
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism, even the mainstream pro vaxxers are lowkey admitting it. There was this article on huffington post titled something like: Vaccines made my child autistic but I dont regret it. I guess they are arguably a necessary evil because of heard immunity and such but at the end of the day you cant blame people for not wanting to vaccinate their kids. Yessss that's the good poo poo, please keep posting.
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Apr 16, 2017 06:17
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Sir Tonk posted:um, excuse me, all of my peers reviewed that website and we all now believe that vaccines are tools of the pharmaceutical industrial complex to reduce the world population for the bilderberg group so that they can have their private islands back. Yes but enough about Jill Stein's stance on vaccines. Helen Highwater posted:Not so much actualy That person needs to lose custody of their children. People like this should be barred from having or raising children.
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Apr 16, 2017 07:19
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Lord Hydronium posted:Her examples of people just "getting through it" are two of the deadliest epidemics in human history. It really shows the just world fallacies these people operate under. They assume that since they're doing the right thing( as constantly reinforced by their dumb friends and professional scam artists) then bad things cannot happen to them. There's a large overlap between anti-vaxxers and immortalists, which is probably not a coincidence.
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Apr 16, 2017 14:07
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism cite sumthin bitch quote:There was this article on huffington post This does not count.
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Apr 16, 2017 14:10
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Goon Danton posted:cite sumthin bitch You just told the pizzagater to cite something other than HuffPo. Brace for globalresearch and Above Top Secret.
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Apr 17, 2017 03:19
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vaccines have a chance to cause encephalitis which then triggers the autism http://www.whale.to/v/buttram.html i highly suggest you guys watch the movie Vaxxed
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Apr 17, 2017 05:03
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:i highly suggest you guys watch the movie Vaxxed Naw I'm good brah.
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Apr 17, 2017 05:28
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:vaccines have a chance to cause encephalitis which then triggers the autism That isn't what causes autism
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Apr 17, 2017 05:44
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:i highly suggest you guys watch the movie Vaxxed Which old-timey disease would you like my kids to catch?
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Apr 17, 2017 06:24
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I can't wait until scientists find out the "explosion" of autism in specifically the US is due to something taken from the mothers while pregnant. Psychotropic meds that entered the fetus's bloodstream? whatever other commonly used drugs that have been popularized since the 90s? perhaps something else yeah go ahead and say I'm dreaming this up, i don't blame you. I'm only saying this because I personally see vaccines as the last thing that can cause such a dramatic brain rewiring at a post-birth age that anti-vaxxers claim affects their kids
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Apr 17, 2017 07:15
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Or maybe there isn't an 'explosion' of autism, but rather a better understanding of mental issues and diagnoses that allow us to better classify children who would previously have just been written off as 'lazy' or 'stupid'.
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Apr 17, 2017 07:36
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High functioning autism is also a diagnosis du jour right now to explain a kid's bad behavior, much like ADHD before it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the illness is a fake (nor is ADHD), but sometimes parents feel helpless and want a diagnosis to help explain why their kid is acting a certain way.
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Apr 17, 2017 11:22
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:There really are chemicals in the juiceboxes that have been found to make frogs participate in giant gay orgies. Its like an indisputable fact, i dont understand why alex jones detractors keep bringing this up like its supposed diss him in any way, maybe because it sounds absurd at a glance. Same thing with the fetus flavorings in pepsi, I didnt believe it at first but it turned out to be true. smoke sumthin bitch posted:yes you would have to be an unhinged lunatic to believe elite paedophile rings rings exist. smoke sumthin bitch posted:the one thing we can all agree on is that they are hiding something extremely illegal behind all the coded talk. i would say that the probabilities its some kind of child trafficking ring is about 50/50. it could also be drugs or bribes or some other poo poo. smoke sumthin bitch posted:some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism, even the mainstream pro vaxxers are lowkey admitting it. There was this article on huffington post titled something like: Vaccines made my child autistic but I dont regret it. I guess they are arguably a necessary evil because of heard immunity and such but at the end of the day you cant blame people for not wanting to vaccinate their kids. smoke sumthin bitch posted:alex jones is single handledly waking up the whole world. and for every child who died from not getting vaxxed, at least a 1000 were saved from autism. At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.” “He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.” Assepoester fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Helen Highwater posted:Or maybe there isn't an 'explosion' of autism, but rather a better understanding of mental issues and diagnoses that allow us to better classify children who would previously have just been written off as 'lazy' or 'stupid'. The rise in rates of autism correlates very closely with an equally strong decline in the rate of diagnosis for retardation and other more general diagnoses. There was always a ton of autism and only in the last 10-15 years have people begun to understand it well enough to properly identify it.
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https://twitter.com/tedfrank/status/853731326515654656
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Helen Highwater posted:Or maybe there isn't an 'explosion' of autism, but rather a better understanding of mental issues and diagnoses that allow us to better classify children who would previously have just been written off as 'lazy' or 'stupid'. Wouldn't call it "better understanding". More that they took a bunch of unrelated and only vaguely related things that used to be tracked separate, then declared all that stuff would now be called "autism spectrum". There happened to be at the same time more people bothering to take their kids to be checked out instead of just muddling through as before, but the "autism" rate jumping is entirely due to the fact that most people getting diagnosed on the "autism spectrum" now flat out did not qualify as having "autism" if you use the rules in place in say, 1987. In short, an autism diagnosis in the 80s in before almost always required very severe symptoms, with most of the people getting diagnosed being those who could barely speak if at all, and other such things.
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Cardboard Box A posted:http://www.mystatesman.com/news/sta...FCd5SOPgP3A34J/
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loving lol, he's literally pulling the I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE AN IDIOT defence.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:56
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:some vaccines are proven to lower IQs and cause autism, even the mainstream pro vaxxers are lowkey admitting it. There was this article on huffington post titled something like: Vaccines made my child autistic but I dont regret it. I guess they are arguably a necessary evil because of heard immunity and such but at the end of the day you cant blame people for not wanting to vaccinate their kids. mods please embed the closing music from The Muppet Show in all sbs posts
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Apr 17, 2017 18:58
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:lol no poo poo. infowars is entertainment. the truth is still the truth and the truth is that a bunch of idiots turned some innocuous e-mails into a full-blown idiot conspiracy that has been disproven over and over again, but idiots won't stop stroking their chins over it
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Evil Fluffy posted:Yes but enough about Jill Stein's stance on vaccines but I didn't say anything about healing crystals smoke sumthin bitch posted:vaccines have a chance to cause encephalitis which then triggers the autism v/buttram
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