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Bruteman posted:Welp that'll learn me, thanks! I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers details from all those old episodes. I still do "This is F U N" in James Earl Jones' voice when I watch CNN.
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Wow, some people hate the reboot. I hope they still get another season.
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Turtlicious posted:Wow, some people hate the reboot Inevitable but extremely rose-colored nostalgia
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I feel like everything falls flat when they're forcefully cramming jokes into every available silence. The action sequences in Reptilicus and the beginning of Cry Wilderness are particularly bad in this respect. They need to slow down a bit and actually let the jokes hit. Two episodes in and I'm finding more to like than dislike, though. I feel like Reptilicus was the stronger of the first two episodes and "Bulimicus!" gave me the biggest laugh so far. Sometimes it's the little things.
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I feel like everything falls flat when they're forcefully cramming jokes into every available silence. The action sequences in Reptilicus and the beginning of Cry Wilderness are particularly bad in this respect. They need to slow down a bit and actually let the jokes hit. Two episodes in and I'm finding more to like than dislike, though. I feel like Reptilicus was the stronger of the first two episodes and "Bulimicus!" gave me the biggest laugh so far. Sometimes it's the little things.
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I feel like everything falls flat when they're forcefully cramming jokes into every available silence. The action sequences in Reptilicus and the beginning of Cry Wilderness are particularly bad in this respect. They need to slow down a bit and actually let the jokes hit. Two episodes in and I'm finding more to like than dislike, though. I feel like Reptilicus was the stronger of the first two episodes and "Bulimicus!" gave me the biggest laugh so far. Sometimes it's the little things. Edit: This is what I get for trying to post from my PS Vita like 18 hours ago. Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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It can be difficult to look at the show entirely on its own merit without comparing it to the original. More so when its an actual continuation and not a spiritual successor kind of deal. I know that's been a difficult thing for me to do here and on other shows/movies/games. I know that I personally also have a tendency to start nitpicking when I don't like something, even if the real problem I have with it isn't even the small stuff. The kind of stuff I can let go and ignore or just say "yeah, that part isn't great." I don't really like what I've seen so far. They seem to want to fill dead air with jokes, and not just on the first episode. Some of them are pretty great and remind me of what I like about MST3K, Rifftrax, etc. like that Jim/Bones/Fossil Jim/Fossil Bones joke. Then there's the other 15 jokes that fell on the floor around it within 10 seconds. It gets a bit better on the other episodes I watched, but it's still kind of annoying. The writing just seems a bit... off? I just keep thinking that this seems like a fan project. Subterranean Cinema 4000! Maybe I'll like the next season better. The voices are things I can get used to, there are plenty of things I can nitpick,  differences, tom flying around, etc. I probably wouldn't care about any of that if I enjoyed the meat of the show, the riffing, more.
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I stopped watching television all together when MST3K went off the air. Happy to have it back. Currently on episode. 2: Goddamn, that "nerdy tree that got hit in the face on a playground" line was sublime. I'm sad there were two specific opportunities to shout ALLOVERTHEWORLD that they didn't take, but then again I'd be bummed out if they did too many callbacks to older jokes. I do hope they manage to sneak in a "go to bed, old man" since Dana Gould was on the writing team, though. caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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Apr 15, 2017 11:20
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Okay they started Loves of Hercules with a Bloom County/Outland joke, my respect for them grows.
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I feel like everything falls flat when they're forcefully cramming jokes into every available silence. The action sequences in Reptilicus and the beginning of Cry Wilderness are particularly bad in this respect. They need to slow down a bit and actually let the jokes hit. Two episodes in and I'm finding more to like than dislike, though. I feel like Reptilicus was the stronger of the first two episodes and "Bulimicus!" gave me the biggest laugh so far. Sometimes it's the little things.
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The first episode was a little rocky for me, but I think that's pretty natural for this kind of thing. Episode 2 was a whaaaat the gently caress Buffalo Rider type movie and I honestly enjoyed the movie in Episode 3. Kinda like Deadly Bees. There is a bit of overstuffing of riffs but some solid ones in there.
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Looking forward to the riff of Frankensnake Riftbeaver vs Outer Space Napalmuskrat next season. Edit: Oh god, Ricki Ticki Tarantula... REDjackeT posted:I don't really like what I've seen so far. They seem to want to fill dead air with jokes, and not just on the first episode. Some of them are pretty great and remind me of what I like about MST3K, Rifftrax, etc. like that Jim/Bones/Fossil Jim/Fossil Bones joke. Then there's the other 15 jokes that fell on the floor around it within 10 seconds. It gets a bit better on the other episodes I watched, but it's still kind of annoying. The writing just seems a bit... off? I just keep thinking that this seems like a fan project. Subterranean Cinema 4000! Maybe I'll like the next season better. I don't think it's that they are just filling every bit of dead air, it's that they sometimes have three or four jokes for short sequences (or jokes for each half second cutaway) and instead of just trimming things down, they cram all of them in and just run through them faster. It makes the delivery feel wrong. But considering that and Tom Servo not being distinctive enough are the only two real complaints anyone seems to have about the new season, they're doing drat good. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Apr 15, 2017 |
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Anyone who think Reptilicus was better than Cry Wilderness is wrong and bad because CW is now in my top 3 of all time. Holy poo poo it was hilarious.
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Anyone who think Reptilicus was better than Cry Wilderness is wrong and bad because CW is now in my top 3 of all time. Holy poo poo it was hilarious. Oh, I don't know. I think there's a few people who prefer the episodes with movies like The Beginning of the End and The Giant Gila Monster, like my dad. Then there's people like me who think the incomprehensible madness of Manos: The Hands of Fate and The Wild Wild World of Batwoman are the pinnacle of MST3K. Oh, and Red Zone Cuba. There's room for both of us.
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Reptilicus was passable, but Cry Wilderness is much better. I chalk Reptilicus being not-as-good mostly up to it being a very dull movie; far duller than I remember it being.
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My biggest critiques would be the pace of deliver of the jokes at times and that I don't even know who is making the joke a lot of times since some of the voices sound the same. They also should have either of just included gypsy as a full-time riffer or kept her in her previous role. I'm not really a fan of gypsy having a normal voice, but that's just me. Patton and Felicia also seem to be trying too hard. Star crasher and cry wilderness have been my favorite episodes.
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Giving the Avalanche dialogue was wonderful, Cry Wilderness broke my brain and The Time Travelers, Reptilicus, and Beast from Hollow Mountain were solid. I just started Starcrash and fear my sanity is soon to flee.
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caligulamprey posted:I stopped watching television all together when MST3K went off the air. Happy to have it back. They got a Drizzle, Drazzle, Druzzle, Drome in there right away in Reptilicus, though.
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I liked Reptilicus just fine, but the moment the new show sold me completely was Bigfoot on the lawn of that school looking like he was in the middle of an 80's music video shoot. Speed of riff doesn't turn me off, doesn't really seem any worse than watching rifftrax to me. I'm rabidly anti nostalgia though, and I'm always looking to reevaluate things I liked when I was younger, and I find I still love old MST3K, luckily, so far though I love the new one too. On specific things, Felicia Day continues to have a track record of never giving me any reason to hate her despite being told that she is apparently the devil, she's good. Patton is great. Jonah is really good and yes more manic than the last few hosts. Crow is like an old glove, Tom is perfectly fine, though as other have said, his voice doesn't stand out from the rest of the crew as well as it used too. Gypsy has some great riffs and her new voice is great. MST3K has always changed, and I have never found reason to hate it because of that, It's back, and I love it.
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Capsule! Capsule! Capsule! Yongary is shaping up to be good so far. PS - Korean Marmaduke sucks!
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The moment I knew this new season was working was in Cry Wilderness when the kid walks in the room with the baggy red and white shirt and medallion and Jonah starts rapping Tricky. I died.
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mangler103 posted:The moment I knew this new season was working was in Cry Wilderness when the kid walks in the room with the baggy red and white shirt and medallion and Jonah starts rapping Tricky. I died. That was amazing. The thing is though, I found it's really the movies that sold me initially on the show. Without Werewolf, or Pod People, or Space Mutiny, I would still like the show, but it's those too weird to exist films that they occasionally get that really let the show reach it's peak. But even then, those movies aren't enough, I could never convince anyone to watch them with me without the riffing aspect, and part of the joy is the sheer incredulity movies like Cry Wilderness inspires in people. Rifftrax, though I like it, is just not the same, often the movies are too good, and the lack of a visual aspect to the riffing results in a loss of something. It has to be a puppet show and a bad movie, either or just will not do.
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Oh man, Time Travelers has at least two straight-up stage magic tricks. The guy changing a circle ring into a square and Danny getting disappeared in a machine. I guess that's one way to pad the runtime.
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I feel like everything falls flat when they're forcefully cramming jokes into every available silence. The action sequences in Reptilicus and the beginning of Cry Wilderness are particularly bad in this respect. They need to slow down a bit and actually let the jokes hit. Two episodes in and I'm finding more to like than dislike, though. I feel like Reptilicus was the stronger of the first two episodes and "Bulimicus!" gave me the biggest laugh so far. Sometimes it's the little things.
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PostNouveau posted:Oh man, Time Travelers has at least two straight-up stage magic tricks. The guy changing a circle ring into a square and Danny getting disappeared in a machine. I guess that's one way to pad the runtime. They also spend a lot of time detaching a damaged android head and attaching a new one in one take, which is a nice practical effect AND pads the film a bit. It's not a bad film, reminded me of This Island Earth in spots, and one of the process shots felt like it was from Forbidden Planet. Plus, Danny is so great he shows up in the next film!
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Jet Jaguar posted:They also spend a lot of time detaching a damaged android head and attaching a new one in one take, which is a nice practical effect AND pads the film a bit. It's weird that they were stretching so much when the big problem seems to actually be too many ideas. Time travel, generational space ship, mutants vs. scientists, androids, skeevy spas, it's too disjointed. But they had good effects for the time and the actors don't suck.
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Wizards of the Lost Kingdom starting strong (and that James Horner "Battle Beyond the Stars" music!) Gotta say, for all the complaints about how rushed the riffs are, it feels like somewhere around episode 7 they started easing up a bit and they feel a little more like older era MST3K.
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PostNouveau posted:It's weird that they were stretching so much when the big problem seems to actually be too many ideas. Time travel, generational space ship, mutants vs. scientists, androids, skeevy spas, it's too disjointed. But they had good effects for the time and the actors don't suck. It sits with Incredibles as a good Fantastic Four movie that's not actually a Fantastic Four movie. I discovered after the fact that MST3K cut off part of the ending. After everyone escapes into the happyish ending of living in the distant future, the movie then quickly replays itself repeatedly to emphasize the time loop. It keeps repeating faster and faster until the screen becomes that time screen static and it ends. I feel like they could have done something with that. Shifting gears to Avalanche, I found this on IMDB: quote:During filming, Styrofoam was used by the special effects crew to augment the "snow effects" of the avalanche. As this was shot in the winter, it wasn't until the spring thaw that the town of Durango discovered that the Styrofoam was everywhere in town. By then the company was long gone. Cripes.
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A few episodes in and wondering if they shot these chronologically because already Avalanche feels way more natural than Reptilicus, which had a kind of overbearing franticness to the riffing. I do wish they'd slow down a little, sometimes Jonah spits out a riff so fast I can barely understand what he's saying. The grunting orange tree in Time Travellers had me crying.
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CommaToes posted:Is it odd that I'm looking forward to the two Gypsy riffs per episode? It's a nice bookend. I really like it. It's a fun new tradition. The invention exchange complete with Max drinking the hot water twice was completely something they would have done with Dr. F and Frank. It was goofy, homemade prop humor. Also, I laughed a lot at Uh, not without a breathalizer, Wilbur! I hope they get another ten seasons out of this. It's already amazing, think of what they can do if they get more practice and more time.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:A few episodes in and wondering if they shot these chronologically because already Avalanche feels way more natural than Reptilicus, which had a kind of overbearing franticness to the riffing. I do wish they'd slow down a little, sometimes Jonah spits out a riff so fast I can barely understand what he's saying. I mentioned this earlier but Jonah can do rapid fire without losing enunciation. It's just his style for riffing. But, yeah, for Reptilicus they were doing the riffs so fast it was hard to keep up. It worked really well with the clock and temperature gauge joke, though. I have a theory the first episode's riffs feel rushed because they took extra time to set up the back story. With an extra ten minutes they don't have to cram in quite so much between skits.
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Bicyclops posted:I hope they get another ten seasons out of this. It's already amazing, think of what they can do if they get more practice and more time. I think "time" was definitely an issue for this season - this seems like it was a side gig for everyone on screen and quite a few of the crew behind the scenes as well. I have to imagine that the 48-hour riff recording and 1-week silhouette shoot were in-part due to trying to work around everyone's schedules outside of the show. If this season proves to be really popular and Netflix moves forward with another season (or even a multi-season) contract, perhaps it'll get a bit less rushed in those areas.
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One thing I haven't mentioned is Kinga's birth of Venus entrance during the intro.  I hope she just stands on the platform whenever she goes somewhere and her henchman push her around to places, even when she's getting on and off spaceships.
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Also, I was singing the theme under my breath in a line today and stopped to =~) when I realized I just did the line "keep in mind Jonah can't control" without realizing it.
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Chokes McGee posted:I mentioned this earlier but Jonah can do rapid fire without losing enunciation. It's just his style for riffing. It makes it sound like he's desperate to get the joke out, which kinda kills the humor.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It makes it sound like he's desperate to get the joke out, which kinda kills the humor. To each their own v  v
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