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Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Actually you need to turn it off, I believe. So it forgets your last-used persona and reverts to the one at the top of the list. I did that once I started getting auto-ma skills to buff everyone before every fight.

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Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Bugs' Automatarukaja at the start of a fight is super nice.

Though his coverage is kind of poo poo so it's gonna be a pain remembering to swap back to him after a fight.

I used him to create the Pale Rider which in turn I used for Trumpeter which I slapped Auto-mataru on. It turned out very well to open up a fight with debilitate and then slap up people with mataru-enhanced attacks, and Trumpeter's Bless/Curse advantage removed most chance of a sudden hama/mudo death.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Trumpeter is still the OG skeleman to have

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Yeah, I'm waiting for Trumpeter to become a realistic option for me before never using anything else ever again.

Didn't know about an option to make it reset my Persona after a fight though, I'll get to grips with that.



Everything about the November dungeon is awesome, especially the target's shadow form. I want to form a rank 11 S.Link with it.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

I used him to create the Pale Rider which in turn I used for Trumpeter which I slapped Auto-mataru on. It turned out very well to open up a fight with debilitate and then slap up people with mataru-enhanced attacks, and Trumpeter's Bless/Curse advantage removed most chance of a sudden hama/mudo death.

That was my plan but turns out I never fused Red Rider and my strategy was ruined. :(

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

AGDQ 2018 Awful Block Survivor
While I was grinding gold from confusing bosses, a thought occurred to me. Endgame spoilers btw. Isnt it appropriate that Morgana, a manifestation of people's hopes and your guide throughout the game, is one of the primary healers of your team and also has a persona that learns Salvation? I thought it was a nice and cute touch considering his roots.

jimmydalad fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Apr 15, 2017

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I used Futsunishi and steamrolled the endgame. His defensive abilities are ridiculous and make you almost completely invulnerable while you charge/attack.

I think I also used Black Frost and the max rank temperance dragon for my elemental needs.

Pretty sure I fused Lucifer and didn't bother switching to him as everything was dying anyways.

Zore fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Apr 15, 2017

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

At some point in the final dungeon I realised Raphael and Black Frost were the only Persona I needed and any strategy that was not "hit thing really hard with ice or sword" was a bad strategy.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Ibram Gaunt posted:

Just beat Palace 7. Wasn't a huge fan of his fight theme. P2's was better but I dunno. Ameno Saigiri in 4 had the much better penultimate battle theme. Akechi not getting his own one sucked too.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

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Zore posted:

I used Futsunishi and steamrolled the endgame. His defensive abilities are ridiculous and make you almost completely invulnerable while you charge/attack.

I think I also used Black Frost and the max rank temperance dragon for my elemental needs.

Pretty sure I fused Lucifer and didn't bother switching to him as everything was dying anyways.

I used my Futsunshi to fuse Yoshitsune and give him Heat Up, Apt Pupil and Firm Stance. The game buckled under itself in difficulty due to being able to charge and take half damage then destroy everything with Hassou Tobi. I swear, that ability is ridiculously powerful.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

jimmydalad posted:

While I was grinding gold from confusing bosses, a thought occurred to me. Isnt it appropriate that Morgana, a manifestation of people's hopes and your guide throughout the game, is one of the primary healers of your team and also has a persona that learns Salvation? I thought it was a nice and cute touch considering his roots.
really, the party have pretty appropriate skillsets in general. I like the contrast between Yusuke and Ryuji where Yusuke relies on other people to set up his damage while Ryuji is self-sustaining, it fits both their personalities and world views pretty well.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Endorph posted:

really, the party have pretty appropriate skillsets in general. I like the contrast between Yusuke and Ryuji where Yusuke relies on other people to set up his damage while Ryuji is self-sustaining, it fits both their personalities and world views pretty well.

Yeah.

Makoto should've kept learning physical skills though.

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?
I get the Ryuji aspect but could you elaborate on how you interpreted Yusuke's skills?

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Is it strange for me to be level 40 and not have Mediarama?

poe meater
Feb 17, 2011

Instant Grat posted:

What's 150 squared (or however many personas there are)

Would you like to scroll through a list with that many entries?

I thought you could do a in-depth search like selecting one from your list and seeing the combinations available in the old games.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Pastrymancy posted:

I get the Ryuji aspect but could you elaborate on how you interpreted Yusuke's skills?
yusuke is someone who is interested in other people's perspectives and wants to communicate with them through art. while he can come across distant and only interested in his own pace, it's pretty clear through his s. link that he very much values the views of others. he tries to go 'everyone is entitled to their own opinion... even when it's wrong...' when that one guy criticizes his art, but then five seconds later goes 'oh god he's right im a failure'

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

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Endorph posted:

really, the party have pretty appropriate skillsets in general. I like the contrast between Yusuke and Ryuji where Yusuke relies on other people to set up his damage while Ryuji is self-sustaining, it fits both their personalities and world views pretty well.

You do have a point. It's nice how the personas do reflect their users and I'm not sure if it has been done to the extent in this game as it has in previous games. The fact that Goro learns light and dark spells could indicate his dual nature as the masked man and the ace detective the rest of the world sees. Additionally, it could be argued that since he mostly learns single target spells (I don't recall him learning any multi-target spells), it could represent his one track and focused mind in terms of getting revenge on Shido and not really being able to see any other path. Oh, and the fact that works alone and most of the time he's been killing, it's been solitary targets. As more time passes, I've really come to love Goro. Even though he's psychotic. Maybe especially because he's psychotic :v:.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Goro is also the only party member to not learn any buffs or heals, only a revive.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
Ask me about my deep and intricate design for a revamp in Persona 5 Vermilion where every character and every Arcana has their own elaborate flavour-appropriate skill tree. I'm still waiting for that job offer, Atlus.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

jimmydalad posted:

You do have a point. It's nice how the personas do reflect their users and I'm not sure if it has been done to the extent in this game as it has in previous games. The fact that Goro learns light and dark spells could indicate his dual nature as the masked man and the ace detective the rest of the world sees. Additionally, it could be argued that since he mostly learns single target spells (I don't recall him learning any multi-target spells), it could represent his one track and focused mind in terms of getting revenge on Shido and not really being able to see any other path. Oh, and the fact that works alone and most of the time he's been killing, it's been solitary targets. As more time passes, I've really come to love Goro. Even though he's psychotic. Maybe especially because he's psychotic :v:.

Robin being able to use darkness at all is an obvious nod to Gora's hidden nature. It's design and resistances and such totally paint it as specialising in Light but it gets Darkness as well despite being weak to it. I think it's pretty clearly like how Goro gives a princely act to be a popular hero and celebrity when really he's pretty messed up.

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Jesus Palace 7 is LONG. And these mazes are like the worst thing. Not to mention fighting for the last letter, then immediately fighting the traitor, then fighting his true form.

Too much fighting in such a short time. Glad I had some curry lying around.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

After much deliberation I've decided to atone for my crimes and state that Rivers In the Desert is actually really loving good. You could say I've had a....Change of heart??? :grin:

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Endorph posted:

Goro is also the only party member to not learn any buffs or heals, only a revive.
if this is telling that he'll come back in the future, then pro move atlus

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Ibram Gaunt posted:

After much deliberation I've decided to atone for my crimes and state that Rivers In the Desert is actually really loving good. You could say I've had a....Change of heart??? :grin:
[new igor voice] You have completed your rehabilitation. You have found friends who share your sense of aesthetics and found your place in reality

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Man Makoto why do you have a level 5 skill gate halfway through your Confidant.

jimmydalad
Sep 26, 2013

My face when others are unable to appreciate the :kazooieass:

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Electric Phantasm posted:

Man Makoto why do you have a level 5 skill gate halfway through your Confidant.

Because she's best girl, therefore she can't let any old guy be her boyfriend. The best things are the things you have to work for.

Back on topic of personas and them reflecting their users, how come Haru is able to use gun skills?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

jimmydalad posted:

Because she's best girl, therefore she can't let any old guy be her boyfriend. The best things are the things you have to work for.

Back on topic of personas and them reflecting their users, how come Haru is able to use gun skills?
i think it's less about guns specifically and more about her getting a bunch of weird, niche stuff that none of the others get and are rare even on Joker's personas. She's the least confident and least equipped for this kind of thing, but she has a unique energy and a strong drive that makes her vital to the team.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

corn on the cop posted:

I loved P4, but I don't think I could ever go back to it because this game makes it look so poor in retrospect.

Did that just now and no, still holds up great. Dungeons nearly without gimmicks may be a bit boring, but also don't really have much annoying stuff either. Setting is still wonderfully charming, as are most characters. P4G port to Switch or PS4 please! Maybe in the female MC style of P3P (disregarding the bullshit excuse they gave for why that wouldn't work for this setting).

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Just wait for atlus to make you sick to death of everything p5 over the next decade.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Motto posted:

Just wait for atlus to make you sick to death of everything p5 over the next decade.

You are not forced to play the dumb spinoff games you know.

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

Motto posted:

Just wait for atlus to make you sick to death of everything p5 over the next decade.

I am unironically hopeful for a persona 5 dancing all night.

I am more hopeful for a remake of 3 or 4 in the p5 engine though...

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
I'm glad that the quota to meet the true ending is essentially don't be a rat

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

SettingSun posted:

Jesus Palace 7 is LONG. And these mazes are like the worst thing. Not to mention fighting for the last letter, then immediately fighting the traitor, then fighting his true form.

Too much fighting in such a short time. Glad I had some curry lying around.

I had to blow a Soma to do it, but I cleared the whole goddamn thing in one day. It took two curries and a peck of tomatoes, I never swapped out of my A-team.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Yeah, I'm waiting for Trumpeter to become a realistic option for me before never using anything else ever again.

Didn't know about an option to make it reset my Persona after a fight though, I'll get to grips with that.

I put null nuclear on siegfried and that was my starter persona thanks to charge and auto-mataru pretty much from the moment i hit strength 10 until i fused vishnu with repel fire during the very definitely final dungeon

finally beat it and p5 is amazing and the best and im going to actually ng+ it to get all the s-links (i had futaba at NINE but ran out of time in december argh) which i never actually did with p3 or p4

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

UberJew posted:

I put null nuclear on siegfried and that was my starter persona thanks to charge and auto-mataru pretty much from the moment i hit strength 10 until i fused vishnu with repel fire during the very definitely final dungeon

finally beat it and p5 is amazing and the best and im going to actually ng+ it to get all the s-links (i had futaba at NINE but ran out of time in december argh) which i never actually did with p3 or p4

Just to check and I guess make you feel bad if you happened to screw this up, did you do the 7th palace as late as possible? Because you can't do confidants (or at least party confidants) a week before a palace deadline, but you can clear that one and you'll suddenly have 5 more days of confidant time.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Decius posted:

Did that just now and no, still holds up great. Dungeons nearly without gimmicks may be a bit boring, but also don't really have much annoying stuff either. Setting is still wonderfully charming, as are most characters. P4G port to Switch or PS4 please! Maybe in the female MC style of P3P (disregarding the bullshit excuse they gave for why that wouldn't work for this setting).
At Atlus headquarters, a producer is reviewing the team's ideas for Persona 4ever. The item at the top, bold and underlined: "Female protagonist!". The producer thinks for a moment, realises how much it would cost, and immediately crosses it out. Across the world, a thousand players suddenly wake up in a cold sweat, filled with a sense of disappointment they can't explain.

OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]
The only P5 spinoff I want is Raidou vs. The Phantom thieves

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


A female protagonist would be a river in a dry land

The last ace in a lost hand

A heartbeat for a tin man

An oasis in a singed land

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Baal posted:

Trumpeter is still the OG skeleman to have

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YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Captain Baal posted:

Trumpeter is still the OG skeleman to have

I miss my main man Turdak and lament that Atlus seems to have forgotten he exists at all.



Look at this badass skeleton man. :smith:

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