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I think what bugs me is that Stallone and Arnold made a bunch of comedies, goofy movies, or just otherwise crappy action movies, but Stallone has Rambo, and Arnold has the Terminator. Neither The Rock or Vin Diesel have really done anything similar to those type of just genre-defining blockbusters, and that kind of bums me out. In this analogy Jason Statham is Bruce Willis, and even his filmography is comparatively pretty depressing
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Jason has the Cranks at least. The Rock has hercules, which isn't quite as good as Conan but is still cool. Nothin like that Basil soundtrack tho
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Apr 14, 2017 19:48
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think the Pacifier is Vin Diesel, actually. The Rock did Tooth Fairy. That's probably where the confusion is coming from.
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got any sevens posted:Jason has the Cranks at least. I'm still waiting for Crank 3-D 
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Phylodox posted:The Rock did Tooth Fairy. That's probably where the confusion is coming from. It also could be The Game Plan. I had actually mashed both those movies up in my head, actually.
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Apr 14, 2017 20:51
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I laughed way too hard at this
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I think the Pacifier is Vin Diesel, actually. Pacifier was Vin Diesel, and the Arnold cameo in The Rundown is at the start.
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Apr 14, 2017 21:22
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Like that, but Hitler is also Dunwoody and they're all The Rock.
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The Rundown is pretty cool but came from the time before The Rock was a super megastar. Also I wish the franchise would just shift towards The Rock and Statham at this point as those two rule together and Vin Diesel is nothing but a puffy downer. But I'm sure Vin Diesel knows/is paranoid that he's being usurped which is why all the weird editing drama went on with this latest movie. Ain't no one gonna kick Vin off his own franchise!
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got any sevens posted:Jason has the Cranks at least. Hercules would have been cool if the whole movie was like the first scene which turns out to be make believe. It's like wow this movie is going to be awesome, and then whoops, psych the movie is actually boring
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Apr 15, 2017 02:24
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Tato posted:The Rundown is pretty cool but came from the time before The Rock was a super megastar. Usurpers are the most afraid of being usurped. It used to be Paul Walker's franchise.
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Apr 15, 2017 02:33
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Wandle Cax posted:Hercules would have been cool if the whole movie was like the first scene which turns out to be make believe. It's like wow this movie is going to be awesome, and then whoops, psych the movie is actually boring I still thought it was cool  loving centaurs! I AM HERCULES!!! 
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Lobok posted:Usurpers are the most afraid of being usurped. It used to be Paul Walker's franchise. Sure, if you think Point Break was Keanu's movie
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Apr 15, 2017 02:59
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I watched Predators last night, Arnold is one handsome motherfucker. The Rock is almost as attractive, and Vin is the most unattractive. So it is perfectly reasonable to hate on the least attractive one.
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"Unbeknownst to López, Björk and Goldie had ended their relationship a few days before he mailed the letter bomb and killed himself" loving hysterical
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Wandle Cax posted:Sure, if you think Point Break was Keanu's movie It absolutely is.
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Wandle Cax posted:Sure, if you think Point Break was Keanu's movie I do, and I think other than the plot comparing F&F1 to Point Break is pretty funny if that suggests Vin Diesel at that point was anywhere close to being in the same league as Point Break-era Swayze. There was also no Point Break 2 that starred Keanu but not Swayze.
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Point Break was pretty cool, but Speed was when I first noticed Keanu. We had no access to stoner comedies in my country. It cost hundreds of dollars to even lease a VHS machine to play the movies that cost like 10 bucks a pop. Keanu Reeves is cool and hansome imo
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Violator posted:I know this is probably an opinion shared by very few people, but I just don't like The Rock any more. I know he's a super nice guy. I know he perfectly understands his role as a cheesy action hero. I know he plays that role well. But he just comes off as super fake to me from following his Twitter and interviews. I don't know what it is, but I have a hard time coming up with any enthusiasm for his films any more. All of his stuff in the most recent Fast movies just feels cheesy in the wrong way to me. "Daddy's gotta go to work" and breaking the cast off in theory should be bad rear end, but for some reason it's super cringey for me. All of his dialogue feels really fake and forced. I don't know why. You know what, I've noticed this as well. I think it's most clear when you watch his interviews on talk shows and stuff like that. He gets away with just flashing that smile and with his natural charisma, but there is always something that bothers me. Like he is straining to give a certain image and it starts to look forced, especially when he tries to laugh to entertain some talk show host's lovely jokes. The time he was on Conan promoting Hercules and he talked about passing out during some stunt, Conan and Andy took the joke really far and you could tell he was not enjoying it but tried to fake-laugh his way out of it. It was one of the most cringiest things I have seen in a while, because it wasn't super obvious and underlined, but because you could see in his eyes that "Ok, I'm feeling really uncomfortable right now but I have to play along". Most of his interviews and his own stuff on YouTube has that same unnatural vibe going on. I mean I really like the guy, one of the most entertaining dudes in movies simply by his charisma alone, but yeah Fast Five was the thing where he was utilized the most appropriately, after that, his schtick has gotten progressively more over the top and fake. When comparing to someone like Arnold, it was always easy and comforting knowing that "Yep, that is Arnold alright" because he couldn't hide his accent in movies and when you listen to his commentary tracks on movies especially from the 80's, he is the goofy dude you know and love. With The Rock, it just feels like he is constantly struggling to hide who he really is. Of course many celebrities are like this, but The Rock isn't as good of an actor to hide it so it ends up looking fake and distracting.
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i havent watched interviews with a lot of these action stars, so this is just a thought... could there be an element of age/nostalgia in this? like if you grew up with arnold you know that persona and maybe you watched the rock as a wrestler and you know that persona. then arnold gets a comedy persona thats pretty much his action persona. and the rock gets a comedy persona thats also etc etc etc idk, just a thought fwiw ive watched i think 4-5-6? of the fast & furious movies & they were fun but they were also very bad. only reason i didnt ffw was cause i put them on the fill the time
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The Rock is always playing the Rock. His interviews when he was just Dwayne Jonhson are the most genuine because he was just being his normal lovable goofy self.its also the time when his career kinda stalled and it only got back on track when he started being the Rock again 24/7.by all acounts hes one of the nicest guys in hollywood so go and get payed big man.
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not trolled not crying posted:You know what, I've noticed this as well. I think it's most clear when you watch his interviews on talk shows and stuff like that. He gets away with just flashing that smile and with his natural charisma, but there is always something that bothers me. Like he is straining to give a certain image and it starts to look forced, especially when he tries to laugh to entertain some talk show host's lovely jokes. The time he was on Conan promoting Hercules and he talked about passing out during some stunt, Conan and Andy took the joke really far and you could tell he was not enjoying it but tried to fake-laugh his way out of it. It was one of the most cringiest things I have seen in a while, because it wasn't super obvious and underlined, but because you could see in his eyes that "Ok, I'm feeling really uncomfortable right now but I have to play along". So, Dwayne Johnson's entire public persona is like this scene with him in Southland Tales... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U9w0EtOT48&t=59s
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hahahah he was in star trek? thats hilarious
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Powaqoatse posted:hahahah he was in star trek? thats hilarious He was an alien of the week kind of deal. Just like a lot of other actors on Voyager.
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So am I getting this right and some people have issues with The Rock being The Rock
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Besides Voyager he was in an episode of That 70s Show too. Basically around that time he was in one episode of a bunch of things playing either his dad in the past or his descendant in the future who all behave exactly like The Rock, it's loving awesome.
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A few jabronis here. F8 is pretty awesome btw.
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Yeah, F8 owns. It gets progressively more ridiculous and never lets up. It's a good time if you don't get hung up on things like "blatant disregard for the laws of physics," in which case why are you watching an F&F movie anyway.
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Tato posted:The Rundown is pretty cool but came from the time before The Rock was a super megastar.
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah that and Walking Tall are two of my favorite movies with the Rock in it. Well that and The Scorpion King; what I was still a kid when those movies came out! I still watch all 3 of those if they come on tv, they're pretty good.
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got any sevens posted:I still watch all 3 of those if they come on tv, they're pretty good. Walking Tall is anchored by the character of the Rock's dad, who gives a way better performance than the role needs.
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As fun as F8 is there's no mention of Statham killing Han which I think is a bit too much. With this series they ould have drat well done an "Hey guys I'm not actually dead! I had good REASONS! See you in the sequel!" But no, Don sent the guy who murdered his friend to rescue his baby son, which while lots of fun is a bit too much.Snowman_McK posted:Walking Tall is anchored by the character of the Rock's dad, who gives a way better performance than the role needs.
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Casimir Radon posted:As fun as F8 is there's no mention of Statham killing Han which I think is a bit too much. With this series they ould have drat well done an "Hey guys I'm not actually dead! I had good REASONS! See you in the sequel!" But no, Don sent the guy who murdered his friend to rescue his baby son, which while lots of fun is a bit too much. There was something to the effect of "we haven't forgotten what you did"
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they put hus brother in a coma and killed his crew too ya know. quest for revenge failed, and he a got over it. have a bigger heart.
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Casimir Radon posted:
Ah yes. A decade ago, the 1950s
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Han not actually being dead would have made the team up make much more sense and would have felt less dumb. Yes, it's almost to the point of the Dallas shower scene but what isn't in this franchise.Ammanas posted:Ah yes. A decade ago, the 1950s
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Casimir Radon posted:Please name some prominent interracial couples in American media in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Idiots lost their poo poo a few years ago because of a biracial family in a Cheerios ad. Not saying they're all classics but my parents do have some fairly riveting vacation photos
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Ammanas posted:Ah yes. A decade ago, the 1950s Will Smith had to carefully calculate which ethnicity his love interest should have in Hitch so people would watch the movie.
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Wait, are people trying to argue that Hollywood isn't still racist as poo poo or something, what in the world is going on hereCasimir Radon posted:As fun as F8 is there's no mention of Statham killing Han which I think is a bit too much. With this series they ould have drat well done an "Hey guys I'm not actually dead! I had good REASONS! See you in the sequel!" But no, Don sent the guy who murdered his friend to rescue his baby son, which while lots of fun is a bit too much. Yeah, I felt that way too. The way they retconned him from cold blooded murderer who killed one of their crew to "actually he's a good guy who only did bad things for FAMILY" was kind of a bridge too far in plausibility, which is saying a lot for this movie. Of course, that does not rule out Han returning from the dead at some point. We've still got two of these movies to go, after all. raditts fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Apr 16, 2017 |
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