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Goku | 202 | 7.09% | |
Vegeta | 279 | 9.79% | |
Krillin | 208 | 7.30% | |
Piccolo or his nameks | 212 | 7.44% | |
Gohan or Cool Gohan | 135 | 4.74% | |
Yamcha | 90 | 3.16% | |
Tien | 120 | 4.21% | |
Muten Roshi | 89 | 3.12% | |
Tao Pai Pai | 71 | 2.49% | |
Frieza | 69 | 2.42% | |
Cell or an android | 86 | 3.02% | |
Buu | 62 | 2.18% | |
Hercule "Mark" Satan | 327 | 11.48% | |
Videl | 90 | 3.16% | |
Bulma | 104 | 3.65% | |
Yajirobe | 99 | 3.47% | |
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy | 68 | 2.39% | |
King kai or another kai | 53 | 1.86% | |
Chi-Chi | 83 | 2.91% | |
Goten | 43 | 1.51% | |
Trunks or Cool Trunks | 112 | 3.93% | |
Bardock | 48 | 1.68% | |
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) | 41 | 1.44% | |
Uub | 42 | 1.47% | |
Oolong | 90 | 3.16% | |
Zamasu | 26 | 0.91% | |
Total: | 1326 votes |
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Holy Christ he's an android with infinite stamina and poo poo let SOMEONE just bullshit the ability to match and defeat an Inconquerable Saiyan for once I swear the more I read the more it seems all people want is for everyone to messily die if Goku so much as touches them while blue or dare raise a fist against him
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# ? Apr 16, 2017 23:59 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:07 |
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17 was designed to kill Goku, it's weird that he would be able to actually accomplish that
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:11 |
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Aurora posted:17 was designed to kill Goku, it's weird that he would be able to actually accomplish that Some part of me wonders if 17 didn't feel a sudden and overwhelming sensation of fulfillment when Goku asked to fight him
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:15 |
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On the one hand, it is a little weird that this godly power that took a ritual to even achieve can be matched by a some guy who trained real hard sorta. On the other hand, you could kinda say that the Androids being able to outmatch the Z fighters during their first appearance came out of nowhere so eh.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:16 |
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:On the one hand, it is a little weird that this godly power that took a ritual to even achieve can be matched by a some guy who trained real hard sorta. On the other hand, you could kinda say that the Androids being able to outmatch the Z fighters during their first appearance came out of nowhere so eh. The godly power that took a ritual to even achieve is something that a really good hitman stood up to.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:26 |
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ImpAtom posted:The godly power that took a ritual to even achieve is something that a really good hitman stood up to. Hit vs Android 17 would own.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:29 |
Black August posted:Some part of me wonders if 17 didn't feel a sudden and overwhelming sensation of fulfillment when Goku asked to fight him
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:30 |
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I hope when they go to recruit Master Roshi he turns super buff and beats the gently caress out of SSjB KKx20 Goku to show off his new training.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:31 |
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I love me some Goku but I am now well far into the thickets of wanting to see this tournament destroy everything he ever knew and loved about fighting just to tear him down a few pegs for once I'd love to see Jiren no sell his battle love every single second of the fight until it's just a humorless, joyless slog for the Saiyan having to ring-out a lot of angry, hateful, desperate people
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:36 |
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honestly they use ssb way too much and it stopped feeling particularly powerful real fast. the show does have a problem of making all these form changes feel interchangeable. they could do better on that front I don't really care that 17 or w/e can fight goku in ssb, but at the same time it doesn't feel particularly impressive that he can do that at this point because so can everyone else apparently. it's legit pretty funny that goku hit a peak and the only way he could break past it was to literally become a god, but then everyone else, up to and including krillin, could at least put up a fight with (or even match) his shiny new form by doing some cardio for a week
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:36 |
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Nessus posted:It sounds like 17 has reached the bulletproof stage of enlightenment, and is wiser than most of the case. Maybe not Roshi or Big Green. I mean more in the sense of like, suddenly feeling something click into place because his express made purpose was Gotta Kill Goku. So when the man is ASKING you to fight him after all these years, it must be like getting a little splinter out of your toe.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:38 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:honestly they use ssb way too much and it stopped feeling particularly powerful real fast. the show does have a problem of making all these form changes feel interchangeable. they could do better on that front It's explicitly a plot point that Krillin didn't actually stand a chance and instead had to figure out how to manipulate the rules, while likewise Goku can't actually go at full power without risking killing people which is against the rules.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:44 |
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Momomo posted:Goku fighting someone unnecessarily? Why that's not like him at all. It's not that it's out of character for him to ask (and if you say no he physically bullies people into it) but "you kinda need to establish that these guys can still go" is just not true in all but Krillin's case (and only then because the first 'Krillin Gets His Groove Back' two-parter they did was dogshit). The more time they spend building the team up the more I fear they won't last long enough to do anything in the actual tournament.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:46 |
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sassassin posted:It's not that it's out of character for him to ask (and if you say no he physically bullies people into it) but "you kinda need to establish that these guys can still go" is just not true in all but Krillin's case (and only then because the first 'Krillin Gets His Groove Back' two-parter they did was dogshit). The team isn't going to be fighting Goku in the tournament and they instead seem to be setting up "here is how all of these guys can be relevant in the tournament." Obviously some of them are going to get Ring Out'd because it's necessary for drama if nothing else but there's a good chance everyone will get at least one good fight. (And then Piccolo will jump in front of a blast for Gohan and get knocked out of the stage.)
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:49 |
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ImpAtom posted:It's explicitly a plot point that Krillin didn't actually stand a chance and instead had to figure out how to manipulate the rules, while likewise Goku can't actually go at full power without risking killing people which is against the rules. he pushed the beam back for a second and that qualifies for putting up a fight
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:49 |
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ImpAtom posted:The team isn't going to be fighting Goku in the tournament and they instead seem to be setting up "here is how all of these guys can be relevant in the tournament." I think that "good chance" gets smaller for every cool trick they show now. Half of them will get eliminated in the first episode to show how strong the opponents are and get Goku's dick hard. Roshi will not be one of them
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:53 |
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that's hit's job
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:55 |
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sassassin posted:I think that "good chance" gets smaller for every cool trick they show now. I'm pretty sure the person who is going to get eliminated in the first episode to show how strong the opponents are is Hit. Like that dude is basically hosed, he's going to get knocked out by Jiren the Grey in under a second. Some of the other Crappy Champa Guys and probably the wolf men too.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:56 |
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ImpAtom posted:I'm pretty sure the person who is going to get eliminated in the first episode to show how strong the opponents are is Hit. Like that dude is basically hosed, he's going to get knocked out by Jiren the Grey in under a second. Some of the other Crappy Champa Guys and probably the wolf men too. Also buff Buu. I'm pretty sure its contractual that he isn't allowed to do literally anything.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:58 |
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sassassin posted:It's not that it's out of character for him to ask (and if you say no he physically bullies people into it) but "you kinda need to establish that these guys can still go" is just not true in all but Krillin's case (and only then because the first 'Krillin Gets His Groove Back' two-parter they did was dogshit). We haven't seen Buu, Gohan, Krillin, or 17 get a proper fight in about 25 years, so having these little episodes is meant to be for the fans rather than the plot. Hell that's why Piccolo actually getting to fight Frost was such a fun thing.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 00:59 |
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eh, buu and gohan did get proper fights the androids are gonna be around for a while tho
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:05 |
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The "they're doing stuff now so they'll job later" logic holds as much water as "they don't get to do poo poo so they'll be smashed" one, which is to say none at all.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:08 |
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gohan will stick around for the whole thing buu, vegeta, piccolo, or some combination of those 3 are doomed to go down to set someone else up as tough
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:12 |
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Lady Broly is totally going to kick Vegeta's rear end.Manatee Cannon posted:eh, buu and gohan did get proper fights
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:14 |
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the last proper fight they had was a few episodes ago
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:16 |
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Honestly, I hope to see Vegeta doing some more mid-tourney Saiyan training. He is the Prince of ALL Saiyans, after all.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:17 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:the last proper fight they had was a few episodes ago I would count that as part of this arc, I was talking about prior to it. As in, that's why they gave us that little tournament in the first place.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:18 |
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Buu has had two fights now where he's shot his load, so he's a goner for sure. What more can they do with him? Krillin's only hope is that electricity thing he was feeling post kamehameha might be something. Otherwise we've seen all he's got, too. Piccolo is notably not being shown roughing up Gohan. He can do all the moves and it'll seem fresh and exciting. Plus he's not nearly threatening enough to make anyone look strong by defeating him. Vegeta, Piccolo, Tien and 18 for final 4.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:34 |
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OB_Juan posted:Honestly, I hope to see Vegeta doing some more mid-tourney Saiyan training. He is the Prince of ALL Saiyans, after all. I want Vegeta to basically take command of all the U6 saiyans mid-tournament to form his own team thanks to Cabba talking him up.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 01:34 |
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Rhjamiz posted:I want Vegeta to basically take command of all the U6 saiyans mid-tournament to form his own team thanks to Cabba talking him up. This raises an interesting question. How can Daishinkan/the Zen'os know each fighter belongs to the Universe they are fighting for? They are clearly not omnisicient with all the poo poo that's been going down without their knowing. It would be interesting to have Champa approach Vegeta and be like "Yo! You and your family, Kings of U6 Saiyan planet. Switch sides, kay?"
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 02:11 |
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:On the one hand, it is a little weird that this godly power that took a ritual to even achieve can be matched by a some guy who trained real hard sorta. On the other hand, you could kinda say that the Androids being able to outmatch the Z fighters during their first appearance came out of nowhere so eh. Freeza, Hit, and Toppo.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 02:43 |
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Also correct me if I'm wrong but we've been told multiple times that God of Destruction is a job, not a species, so there are quite a lot of people who've reached that level and gotten offered a job, as well as presumably at least some who got that far and didn't.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 02:47 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:gohan will stick around for the whole thing I still say it coming down to Gohan, Krillen, and Vegeta vs a metric poo poo ton of scrubs because Goku got himself ringed out along with Jiren would be great. ImpAtom posted:Also correct me if I'm wrong but we've been told multiple times that God of Destruction is a job, not a species, so there are quite a lot of people who've reached that level and gotten offered a job, as well as presumably at least some who got that far and didn't. You are correct. Also, it isn't his power level that makes Goku "godly." It's the God Ki. Basically, without God Ki, Goku doesn't stack up to even Hit (who hasn't gotten it).
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 02:49 |
ImpAtom posted:Also correct me if I'm wrong but we've been told multiple times that God of Destruction is a job, not a species, so there are quite a lot of people who've reached that level and gotten offered a job, as well as presumably at least some who got that far and didn't.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:27 |
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ive been watching the dbz movies in a random order with a goon friend. they're pretty bad (except for the last two). is it a hilarious meme in japan for piccolo to save gohan in every film
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:31 |
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Relin posted:ive been watching the dbz movies in a random order with a goon friend. they're pretty bad (except for the last two). is it a hilarious meme in japan for piccolo to save gohan in every film Basically every film basically exists to thinly knock off existing plot points in slightly different ways and Piccolo taking a blow for Gohan is one they just love to repeat.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:33 |
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Lord Slug is so much a cliff notes version of King Piccolo that it's kinda absurd.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:36 |
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World's Strongest and Dead Zone are at least kind of cool. Tree of Might is okay. Broly is Broly. Rest are kind of forgettable.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:38 |
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Aurora posted:World's Strongest and Dead Zone are at least kind of cool. Tree of Might is okay. Broly is Broly. Rest are kind of forgettable. Fusion Reborn is rad because Gotenks fights Hitler
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:41 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:07 |
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Nessus posted:It sounds like #17 is way more qualified for the job than either Goku or Vegeta, although he might not want it. Doesn't destroy enough. Would make a good Kai though. Sadly that job is race restricted.
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# ? Apr 17, 2017 03:43 |