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Harrow posted:Temperance confidant spoilers (through rank 8): I'm kinda shocked at how successfully this confidant progressed from "haha my teacher's a maid oh god this is awkward but also hilarious" to "oh my god Kawakami you've been through so much What's a happier resolution than giving her ever lasting and monogamous love with no cheating because she's obviously the greatest?
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Let's see what's on the ol' Mementos Agenda for today: Kill your friend's parents Kill your friend's parents Kill your friend's friend's parents Kill your friend's parent Kill your friend's parents Kill your friend's parent Kill a dead kid's parents Kill your friend's uncle Uh...alright. Cool. I guess.
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ChaosArgate posted:It's pretty heartwarming, don't worry. It's legit a great S Link, and that's before we get into the fact that it has one of the best Confidant perks. I kinda wish that she would just turn up in regular clothes instead of the maid outfit though. It is a bit silly really.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:03
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Most of the links are pretty good in this game with the exception of Tower, probably. My only gripe is how the rank 10 for non party members is mostly the same generic thing (save for Sojiro).
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Apr 17, 2017 14:04
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Given the non-spoiler stuff I'm seeing on this page this game really will end where I think it will end. Oh well. Might as well finish it up later today.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:05
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Am I right in assuming that the time before dungeon 7 is the last free time I'm going to get?
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TEENAGE WITCH posted:should i play this in english or japanese? i usually find english anime dubs bad, did they do a good job?? I say play it in English only because there's a lot of anime cutscenes later in the game where they forgot to add subtitles to important plot stuff. I could infer what was going on and they usually explain it after the anime cutscene is over but it was really irritating
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The Lord of Hats posted:Am I right in assuming that the time before dungeon 7 is the last free time I'm going to get? Same deal as Persona 4, if that helps.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:06
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Harlock posted:Most of the links are pretty good in this game with the exception of Tower, probably. Tower is good too, IMO. I really like the brotherly dynamic between Shinya and Joker. The VA is Not Good but that doesn't really detract from it being a nice outlet and also a comment on correcting course via example rather than merely stealing hearts, as you help instill in Shinya even before you fix his mother how "winning" isn't everything, which I mean before that Shinya woulda been on his way towards having a Palace of his own one day.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:06
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Tower is fine. It's not Nanako levels of good for the obligatory kid link, but Nanako is a precious angel so it's not a fair comparison. Ohya (Devil?) is the worst because she's just boring. She's not wearing a GET SMOKED hat.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:10
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Hanged Man ended up being my favorite confidant, Fortune and Emperor were a little bland, Moon is still the worst one for me even though it turns around half way through
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Apr 17, 2017 14:10
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I generally really like how well-integrated the S. Links and main story are this time around. I like when confidants occasionally show up during the main story, like when you need to call a doctor for Futaba, and how being a Phantom Thief lets you help them all, too. Also, I don't remember clearly: did social link characters cross over into each others' links much in Persona 3 and 4? Like the scene where you run into Hifumi while book shopping with Makoto was pretty funny and I enjoyed Joker's reaction when Makoto claimed he was only there to hold her books, or when you go fishing with Ryuji and Kawakami is the master. Gaining 3 points with each after saying, "Call her MASTER Kawakami" made me laugh a whole lot.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:11
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Harrow posted:I generally really like how well-integrated the S. Links and main story are this time around. I like when confidants occasionally show up during the main story, like when you need to call a doctor for Futaba, and how being a Phantom Thief lets you help them all, too. No, the only time S.Links in P3/4 crossed over was when you really didn't want them to because there's the other girl you're dating and oh poo poo oh poo poo RUN!
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Apr 17, 2017 14:13
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Lakbay posted:Hanged Man ended up being my favorite confidant, Fortune and Emperor were a little bland, Moon is still the worst one for me even though it turns around half way through It took me a bit to get a grip on what kinds of answers Iwai likes, but once I did he became one of my favorite links to do. Going to the buffet with him is great.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Am I right in assuming that the time before dungeon 7 is the last free time I'm going to get? No, you will have free time until 12/23 even if you do the dungeon earlier. It isn't like Persona 4.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:19
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No, the only time S.Links in P3/4 crossed over was when you really didn't want them to because there's the other girl you're dating and oh poo poo oh poo poo RUN! What happens in P5 is a less frequent version of how it goes in Golden, and in fact I expected more overall crossover scenes than we got, though it seems they saved them for incidental hang-outs to encourage that you do those more. But in Golden you'd have people run into you while you hung out with Marie, which allowed you to get bonus points with different groups and it was really cool
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Apr 17, 2017 14:24
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Harrow posted:Kawakami is the master. Gaining 3 points with each after saying, "Call her MASTER Kawakami" made me laugh a whole lot. Especially because he seems to have a goofy grin on his face and she blushes.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:26
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For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: "Oh this person is the cause of most of my problems if only they would have a change of heart or something." "Tell me their name." "Sure, but I don't see why that matters." *Goes and changes their heart* "Hey my problems are no more because that person completely changed! Well you're obviously a Phantom Thief since I only told you my problem and they totally had a change of heart." Gets me every time.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:25
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: This is why Yoshida is one of my favorites because he works it out without that big clue.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:27
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8-Bit Scholar posted:What happens in P5 is a less frequent version of how it goes in Golden, and in fact I expected more overall crossover scenes than we got, though it seems they saved them for incidental hang-outs to encourage that you do those more. I think they sort of have to be limited to the incidental hangout scenes to avoid needing to plot lock too many social link ranks. Like if there was a rank of Ryuji's link where Makoto showed up you'd have to wait until she joined to do that one. Putting crossovers in the minor hangout scenes is probably the best compromise.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:29
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MC:"Hey tell me the name of the person who's loving you over for... reasons." Confidant: "ok" [Ryuji passes by] Ryuji: "OH poo poo THAT'S MY BOY MAIN CHARACTER! HE'S THE LEADER OF THE PHANTOM THIEVES, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER TOO! PHANTOM THIEVES!!!" MC: "Hell yeah, that's me, what's up buddy" Ryuji: "lol remember that time we called the maid" MC: "Not so loud buddy, if people find out about that we're hosed! keep that poo poo on the down low jesus christ"
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Apr 17, 2017 14:30
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: Even though everyone says the MC is quiet, he's even worst than Ryuji at keeping the Phantom Thieves a secret
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Apr 17, 2017 14:32
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: The appropriate level of Moon should have had an option to ask Mishima "Hey, what's your name again?"
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Harrow posted:I think they sort of have to be limited to the incidental hangout scenes to avoid needing to plot lock too many social link ranks. Like if there was a rank of Ryuji's link where Makoto showed up you'd have to wait until she joined to do that one. Putting crossovers in the minor hangout scenes is probably the best compromise. I see why they didn't, but in the future I think it'd be interesting to let you start an S-link with a future party member before they've joined up. It'd make for an interesting dynamic, to have existing friendships change and develop due to a Persona influence. Of course, I genuinely hope they retire the S-link system after this one. I had thought they'd hit the plateau in P4, I do think they've done it now. The mechanic will lose its novelty if it becomes a series staple and I think that they don't need it to make something interesting.
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Has anyone seen posters of Rise in the subway? I thought that was a nice cameo.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:33
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At this point I'm waiting for Akechi to stroll into Leblanc right as Ryuji's yelling, "Being the Phantom Thieves is great! I love being a Phantom Thief with my friends MC, Ann Takamaki, Yusuke Kitagawa, Makoto Niishima, Futaba Sakura, and this talking cat! We are definitely the Phantom Thieves and if anyone can hear this, this confession is admissible in court!"
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Apr 17, 2017 14:34
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Mishima needs to show up in everyone's link so they can trash him.
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: I didn't really mind it, even if it did get repetitive, just because your Confidant is generally backed into a wall and completely hosed if you don't go make a Change of Heart happen. It's not like you're just leaping at the first misfortune they have. The Deleter posted:Has anyone seen posters of Rise in the subway? I thought that was a nice cameo. The one it alternates with is the girl from Persona 4: Dancing All Night, incidentally.
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The Deleter posted:Has anyone seen posters of Rise in the subway? I thought that was a nice cameo. Get the poster of Rise in your room
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The Deleter posted:Has anyone seen posters of Rise in the subway? I thought that was a nice cameo. If you take Ann to Harajuku you can get one of your own to hang in your hip attic loft.
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Lakbay posted:I say play it in English only because there's a lot of anime cutscenes later in the game where they forgot to add subtitles to important plot stuff. I could infer what was going on and they usually explain it after the anime cutscene is over but it was really irritating You can turn on subtitles in the settings.I'm not sure why it's not automatically switched on but it's there
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: I'm not sure why you think the MC cares if they can deduce the truth. It's not like they can prove any direct causality anyway. Supernatural powers motherfuckersssss And more importantly they're his close friends anyway, do you really think they're gonna be mega pissed you used your supernatural powers to markedly improve their lives
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Pastrymancy posted:You can turn on subtitles in the settings.I'm not sure why it's not automatically switched on but it's there I turned on subtitles from the very beginning but there's stuff in anime cutscenes they completely forgot to subtitle. The first time is the news report Sae and the SIU Director are watching and they didn't subtitle the report even though it's the focus of the entire cutscene, but Sae and the director have subtitles still Much later on they also forget to subtitle a news report that's a plot dump and the focus of a cutscene and then even later they forgot to subtitle Ryuji's dialog while everyone else had subs
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I see why they didn't, but in the future I think it'd be interesting to let you start an S-link with a future party member before they've joined up. It'd make for an interesting dynamic, to have existing friendships change and develop due to a Persona influence.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:51
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never get rid of slinks and make all of them romancable, especially toranosuke
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Apr 17, 2017 14:52
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I haven't played them, but if you removed s.links wouldn't the game just be SMT but with a high school protagonist
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Lakbay posted:I haven't played them, but if you removed s.links wouldn't the game just be SMT but with a high school protagonist Pretty much, yes. The mainline SMT games are straight dungeon-crawlers.
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MotU posted:never get rid of slinks and make all of them romancable, especially toranosuke Alternatively, keep s.links but make less of them romanceable but have actual intersection with the main story in areas where it makes sense for them to intersect like the handful of times where it would make sense in P5 but it doesn't at all. (EG when Ann comes to your room at Hawaii)
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SettingSun posted:For a profession that relies heavily on secrecy, the MC is very careless with his confidants. All of them with a Mementos request go the same way: I actually kind of like this because it ties in well to Joker's actions pre-game. he's a rebel in that he's going to try and stop any abuse of authority regardless of the consequences to him personally, unlike the people around him who justify their inaction in the name of self-interest. You gradually get the sense that even if given the chance for a do-over, Joker would still stop the assault from happening because at the end of the day it's the right thing to do, personal consequences be damned. It's the same with the Confidants, and Joker doesn't really care if he makes himself blindingly obvious because he's not going to stand aside in the face of injustice. if the P3 MC's main trait is supposed to be apathy and P4's is leadership, P5's is absolutely having a strong moral center.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Alternatively, keep s.links but make less of them romanceable but have actual intersection with the main story in areas where it makes sense for them to intersect like the handful of times where it would make sense in P5 but it doesn't at all. (EG when Ann comes to your room at Hawaii) Ehh, I think most of them are okay with the general inference of a separation of church and state with your personal and 'work' relationships together. Some of the events could use an extra line or two to infer a discrete relationship though. Just stuff like the question about what kind of girls the protagonist likes when they're chatting overnight in the room.
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