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He's passionate about Riddick too, but he has to actually put effort into getting that together and financing it, whereas the F&F train is already rolling and budget is no issue at this point.
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How big can you really stretch the line "I am groot"? Speaking of that, did he voice baby groot? Was he sucking helium between takes or was it put through a modulator? I even liked witch hunter, but since all his solo stuff hasnt done well lately he'll keep a death grip on F/F got any sevens fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Ravel posted:I'm sure he could have had a bigger, more prominent role in the MCU if he wanted. I can see why he wouldn't want that though. Why tie yourself down to a massive ensemble project where you'll have zero creative control or even control over practical things like scheduling, when you already have the exact same thing going for yourself where your the executive producer and have total control over almost all aspects of production?
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Tim Whatley posted:Regarding the ending, I thought naming his son Brian was very predictable and I think it would have been much stronger if he named him Paul. The reaction of everyone somberly acknowledging Brian was weird, too, because Brian is still alive in the F&F universe.
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drainpipe posted:The reaction of everyone somberly acknowledging Brian was weird, too, because Brian is still alive in the F&F universe. They miss their sweet hangs with him.
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Lobok posted:They miss their sweet hangs with him. They could've invited him to the barbecue. That's not dangerous for a family man.
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drainpipe posted:The reaction of everyone somberly acknowledging Brian was weird, too, because Brian is still alive in the F&F universe. It's really not that weird: To the Family, Brian and Mia and Dom's nephew are as good as dead. It's unlikely they can have any contact with Dom and the crew. They're probably under some sort of witness protection or hidden away. Remember that the Family is now the world's most dangerous terrorist organization, an often unwilling asset of the Deep State (and it is unclear whom, if anyone, Mr. Nobody answers to) that has violated the national sovereignty of numerous global powers and probably wouldn't hesitate to kidnap them if they felt it necessary. Plus they have pissed off pretty much every major criminal organization in the world. A more cynical reading is that Brian and Mia have outlived their usefulness as racers (and people, really) and now need to settle down to raise the patriarch's nephew. The Family, like the real life film production, revolves around the whims of Dominic Toretto (Vin Diesel) and what you can do for him.
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KaptainKrunk posted:It's really not that weird: To the Family, Brian and Mia and Dom's nephew are as good as dead. It's unlikely they can have any contact with Dom and the crew. They're probably under some sort of witness protection or hidden away. Remember that the Family is now the world's most dangerous terrorist organization, an often unwilling asset of the Deep State (and it is unclear whom, if anyone, Mr. Nobody answers to) that has violated the national sovereignty of numerous global powers and probably wouldn't hesitate to kidnap them if they felt it necessary. Plus they have pissed off pretty much every major criminal organization in the world. Agreed. I mean this is basically the thematic underpinning of Elena's death, once she produced an heir she had outlived her usefulness except to die as an incitement for Dom's vengeance.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Agreed. I mean this is basically the thematic underpinning of Elena's death, once she produced an heir she had outlived her usefulness except to die as an incitement for Dom's vengeance. After that scene between Letty and Dom in the beginning, you already know the second Elena appears on screen she's going to die to allow Letty to be Brian's mother.
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hiddenriverninja posted:After that scene between Letty and Dom in the beginning, you already know the second Elena appears on screen she's going to die to allow Letty to be Brian's mother. I dunno, a guy who thinks family is that important might not be above polygamy.
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Boxofficemojo has the opening weekend actuals up: $98,786,705 domestic, $433,200,000 international for a total of $531,986,705. Even if they hadn't already said 9 & 10 were in the pipe, they certainly would be now.
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Some people are having meltdowns that this movie did as well as it did. That it's a litmus test for society, and society done goofed. Meltdown might be hyperbolic but there are people not happy about the haul. I've noticed the people having this reaction are the type to ding a movie for not being "realistic", talk about "cringing" when discussing the melodramatic aspects of the story, and I'm assuming had the lens through which they judge film shaped by YouTube personalities
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Lobok posted:I dunno, a guy who thinks family is that important might not be above polygamy. It was funny how at the end of 6 it seemed like Dom was seriously considering bringing it up.
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I personally thought the movie was okay, nothing spectacular. Like an earlier poster said, there's a Paul Walker sized hole in the movie, and it shows. Favorite things: Theron as Cipher was great, especially the turn about her purpose being Statham's plane rescue was awesome, though I wish I hadn't seen it in a trailer before. Scott Eastwood thinking he knows what's up and then getting chumped every time. Not so good things: The Rock was the most Rock he's ever been in a film, and it just got exhausting for me. The set pieces just weren't as exciting as anything in 5 or 7. I couldn't turn off my brain and kept on looking at the CGI. The rest of the cast is serviceable, and Roman is Roman.
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hiddenriverninja posted:The Rock was the most Rock he's ever been in a film, and it just got exhausting for me. Yeah I did think it was a bit much the third time he said 'take that, libtards' directly into the camera.
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I'm, thinking of taking my girlfriend to take FF8 but haven't seen any of them myself. Would this be a big problem? I know this series isn't Shakespeare and I don't mind big dumb action films - question is, is it entertaining enough on its own?
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It's hard to say, but I jumped into FF6 blind and thought it was great, and this movie continues in the same vein. If you like big dumb action films give it a shot. There are references to past films but you don't need them to enjoy the over the top action pieces.
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henpod posted:I'm, thinking of taking my girlfriend to take FF8 but haven't seen any of them myself. Would this be a big problem? I know this series isn't Shakespeare and I don't mind big dumb action films - question is, is it entertaining enough on its own? this series, it's like star wars i bet after disney is done with it they'll reboot the f&f franchise with cgi paul walker
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Some would argue that Scott Eastwood is a terrible looking CGI Paul Walker already.
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Penpal posted:Some people are having meltdowns that this movie did as well as it did. That it's a litmus test for society, and society done goofed. Meltdown might be hyperbolic but there are people not happy about the haul. The same thing happens when a new Transformers movie comes out. Their success is a sign that society is coming to an end and not a sign that peopl like it when stuff blows up real good. There's one of each coming out this year, so I'm going to have a good time reading meltdowns. Mierenneuker posted:Some would argue that Scott Eastwood is a terrible looking CGI Paul Walker already. I've hated him ever since I saw a pic of him lighting a cigar with a zippo. This movie was cool. It's not as well crafted as number 6, but that is the peak of the series in every way, and one of the best action movies of the last several years. There was plenty of insanity and cool set pieces though. The thousands of cars dropping out of the carpark was amazing.
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But Fast & Furious is good and Transformers is bad.
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Echo Chamber posted:But Fast & Furious is good and Transformers is bad. Actually they're both good and cool.
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Caaaarrrssss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k7anW4MptU
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henpod posted:I'm, thinking of taking my girlfriend to take FF8 but haven't seen any of them myself. Would this be a big problem? I know this series isn't Shakespeare and I don't mind big dumb action films - question is, is it entertaining enough on its own? The more F&F films you watch, the less sense they make. Also the Transformers franchise is a cynical, miserable mess. Often offensively so. F&F is dumb sludge, but it's generally good spirited and fun.
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Steve2911 posted:The more F&F films you watch, the less sense they make. That's fine by me. Transformers should be fun to watch whether or not you know about Optimus Prime and his buddies but it's just amazing how they keep coming out. They are exhausting and no matter how many explosions there are, it just feels empty. I guess that's a discussion for another thread.
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Steve2911 posted:The more F&F films you watch, the less sense they make. I'd say the opposite is true. The more F&F you see, the more you understand their genius and widespread (among non-whites and the lower class) appeal.
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Yeah, for me most of the appeal is the worldbuilding and the characters, really. Going into FF8 not knowing about Family means that the whole emotional core is gone, and then you're just watching people you don't know driving cars really fast. Which could be plenty entertaining, I just know that for me, the context is what gives the scenes weight.
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The title of this thread more than covers that though.
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Lobok posted:I dunno, a guy who thinks family is that important might not be above polygamy. You know, there was another famous historical figure that really put an emphasis on Family with a capital F
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:You know, there was another famous historical figure that really put an emphasis on Family with a capital F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdANsVmsziM
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When does Cypher join the team? In 9 or do we have to wait until 10?
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Never. Shaw was always shown to care about his brother. He is Dom when soneobe comes after his team. It makes sense with the theme of family that Deckard. Who cares about his would eventually gain Dom's respect . Cyphers whole thing is no emotions no family. She doesnt care about anyone or anything. That is the thematic opposite of Dom. While Shaw is thematically the exact same. Also that would put 3 hackers/techs in the family and who the gently caress needs that.
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Dexo posted:Also that would put 3 hackers/techs in the family and who the gently caress needs that. Well, jsut diversify so you have one healer, a dark wizard and white wizard. I don't know how DnD works.
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So Dom essentially puts people who share his family values ahead of people actually in his supposed (non-blood) family. By accepting the guy that executed a family member he's revealed himself to be completely full of poo poo.
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Who cares about Cypher joining the team? I want Helen Mirren to get behind the wheel first. Also: The Atlantic has thoughts on where the franchise should go. I think it's funny that F&F has become like Bond, where the franchise gets long enough that there are ebbs and flows and calls to be less spectacular and go "back to basics". https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/04/why-the-fast-and-furious-needs-to-go-small-to-survive/523437/ quote:It’s safe to say the 16-year-old Fast & Furious franchise is an unqualified success. Its eighth entry, The Fate of the Furious, opened to a healthy $98 million at the U.S. box office this weekend and seems poised to be a financial boon like its forebears. The next two sequels are already greenlit and, in general, the Vin Diesel-starring, car-centric series is a crown-jewel property for Universal Studios. But there are some signs of trouble ahead: Fate’s opening was about $50 million down from the previous film, Furious 7, and the reaction from critics was similarly less rapturous. The franchise is doing fine, but there’s at least some reason to worry. Of course, when studio execs are looking at what to do with the franchise, keep in mind this is what they see as the franchise's record so far:  https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-fast-and-furious/ Lobok fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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henpod posted:I'm, thinking of taking my girlfriend to take FF8 but haven't seen any of them myself. Would this be a big problem? I know this series isn't Shakespeare and I don't mind big dumb action films - question is, is it entertaining enough on its own? I just saw F8 last night and I have not seen a single other F&F movie, except for a clip here and there. You'll be fine because it's a dumb action movie. You miss out on the motivation for a lot of characters because they do reference the older movies quite a bit, but it honestly doesn't matter. You go to see F&F movies to see cars go fast, and stuff blow up, not for the story.
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