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Madcosby posted:The completionist package purchases are 100% money launders. If i had to guess and guess right, my bet is ships sold on the grey market over dozens of accounts. Due to paypal and such it takes time to confirm the money as fully delivered, so whenever the grey market accounts accumulate 15000 in verifyable off transaction cash, they purchase a completionist package to move the money "legally" into their own accounts It seems like one large purchase of 15k would be more suspicious than multiple smaller transactions but would be easier and cheaper if you only had to maintain a few smurf accounts to buy up completionist packages to turn that dirty money in to pledge dollars. I could see it happening though. One main account buys up completionist packages at a discount, chops up the account into smaller bits and sells the ships at a loss (every ship is going for under market value because who wants to buy a ship that can't be refunded at full price?) to dirty accounts making small under the radar transactions. The main account scoops up dirty money with some plausible deniability, losing some cash in the process, and buys up a new completionist package when the account hits 15k in sales. Another 15k in the till for CIG. This is theoretically possible but its seems like it's courting disaster if the SEC or FBI catch on. It doesn't seem worth it if you're only pulling in maybe an extra 100k per month. If this is happening, I doubt it's happening with the knowledge of upper level people. A better guess would be CIG taking 15k out of the till and buying ship packages themselves and counting it as revenue by marking the newly purchased ships as inventory and property of CIG. At least this way they don't run afoul of any government agencies because they are under no obligation to disclose what they do with pledge money and if the pledge counter is legitimate. But then I would wonder why 15k completionist packages? It is suspicious enough that we caught on so why not smaller purchases throughout the day?
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Apr 17, 2017 20:37
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Saying publicly and to their backers' faces "we will definitely do this by x or within y" is not a promise, because there's no "we promise" anywhere in that sentence. This is important, and a fact. In my opinion.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:37
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I swear, these guys.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:39
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The other option is that the fund tracker is total bullshit. If thats the case, the guiness people may also be interested in your crusade to protect whatever integrity they have (i havent cared about guiness records since age 6 but whatevs) if yall can force chris to admit the tracker is bogus, or prove theyre illegally moving money, you can do something worthwhile with your time rather than fight for things to hate on
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Apr 17, 2017 20:40
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This is a normal, standard business practice.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:42
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Star Citizen: Not technically a promise.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:42
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D1E posted:Well the whole "rolling layoffs" thing is something that would actually have public visibility, so either something is finally happening or Derek is just crying wolf again. I would totally accept a garbage bag full of backer funds to not update my linked in profile and not post about how I was unceremoniously let go. A few hundred k in hush money is a drop in the bucket compared to what would happen if backers caught a whiff of impending layoffs. That is the canary in the mine shaft that will signal the end of pledging and a bank run for refunds.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:44
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ManofManyAliases posted:All of your faux concern for me is not endearing in the least. I don't need to frequent a gay comedy forum on my weekend off, especially one that is a holiday weekend. ManofManyAliases posted:Big difference between ignoring and doing work while casually observing. ManofManyAliases posted:Derek:
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Apr 17, 2017 20:54
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How the PU is currently being sold.quote:More than a space combat sim, more than a first person shooter and more than an MMO: Star Citizen is the First Person Universe that will allow for unlimited gameplay.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:59
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Madcosby posted:The other option is that the fund tracker is total bullshit. If thats the case, the guiness people may also be interested in your crusade to protect whatever integrity they have (i havent cared about guiness records since age 6 but whatevs) if yall can force chris to admit the tracker is bogus, or prove theyre illegally moving money, you can do something worthwhile with your time rather than fight for things to hate on I mostly like to laugh at idiots, I'll be sad when the journey's all over
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Apr 17, 2017 21:00
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Here is the deal... In leu of a 401k or other benefits, employees become vested after 1 year and are entitled to a completionist package, which they are free to sell off piecemeal on the grey market. What you see in the funding tracker are employees cashing in their $15,000 gift certificates, followed by an uptick in activity on sc_trades
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Apr 17, 2017 21:00
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AbstractNapper posted:Saying publicly and to their backers' faces "we will definitely do this by x or within y" is not a promise, because there's no "we promise" anywhere in that sentence. This is important, and a fact. In my opinion. Ugh, don't. It's one of the more ridiculous bits of mental gymnastics the shitizens perform so as to not acknowledge that CIG has repeatedly treated them like poo poo. Companies don't make promises because promises are emotional commitments not contractual commitments. Saying 'CIG did nothing wrong because they didn't promise anything' is the flip side of saying to your wife 'No, I didn't let you down because we didn't draw up a contract that I would do X'. Everyone understands that in either scenario you said you were going to do something, you committed to that course of action and need a drat good excuse and explanation if you're later going to go back on what you said.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:01
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I think we got a bingo on this page alone.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:03
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AbstractNapper posted:Saying publicly and to their backers' faces "we will definitely do this by x or within y" is not a promise, because there's no "we promise" anywhere in that sentence. This is important, and a fact. In my opinion. I told my mom I'd meet her for lunch. I don't show up. Well I didn't say I PROMISE did I? Checkmate, mom
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Madcosby posted:The other option is that the fund tracker is total bullshit. If thats the case, the guiness people may also be interested in your crusade to protect whatever integrity they have (i havent cared about guiness records since age 6 but whatevs) if yall can force chris to admit the tracker is bogus, or prove theyre illegally moving money, you can do something worthwhile with your time rather than fight for things to hate on I bet you care a lot more about Guinness records than you let on. It's okay to feel. Crazy_BlackParrot posted:I swear, these guys. Technically it's not a promise in the pinkie-swear sense, but more the in sense of 'I'll call you'. Any terms and conditions you may have seen are merely your friend protecting themselves legally. "Star Citizen features a fully realized death mechanic, giving exceptional weight to your choices." How? loving how does it? Hav fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Apr 17, 2017 21:07
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MilesK posted:How the PU is currently being sold. Which milestones denote when it went from the "baby PU" to the "mini PU" and finally to just being the "PU"? It seems like a lot of progress has been made.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:08
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So I haven't paid attention to this for a month or two, has anything funny or interesting happened recently?
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Apr 17, 2017 21:23
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D_Smart posted:MoMa, have you heard anything? That just proves they're closer to a gold release than you thought. Checkmate goonLord.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:28
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D1E posted:Well the whole "rolling layoffs" thing is something that would actually have public visibility, so either something is finally happening or Derek is just crying wolf again. We should all continue laffing as CIG stumbles along?
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Apr 17, 2017 21:31
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 https://twitter.com/DisturbedJim83/status/853942133685878785
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Apr 17, 2017 21:33
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The Glumslinger posted:So I haven't paid attention to this for a month or two, has anything funny or interesting happened recently? The game is playable as promised* *. Nothing was ever really promised.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:33
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Apr 17, 2017 21:34
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The Glumslinger posted:So I haven't paid attention to this for a month or two, has anything funny or interesting happened recently? They released a tentative schedule to plan out work for things that they hope to begin production on for a thing that was supposed to come out last December. The backers are ecstatic about it.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:36
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The Glumslinger posted:So I haven't paid attention to this for a month or two, has anything funny or interesting happened recently? Development started Two Weeks ago; 
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Mirificus. Not that I'm telling you to stop, but just wanted to point out. In the last 100+ posts you've made in this thread, only one sentence is your own words. I find this amusing, that's all.
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Apr 17, 2017 21:45
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D1E posted:Well the whole "rolling layoffs" thing is something that would actually have public visibility, so either something is finally happening or Derek is just crying wolf again. The Great Derek Doxx Toxx of 2017
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Apr 17, 2017 21:47
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MilesK posted:How the PU is currently being sold. I'm trying to find one of those features that is actually in the game at the moment. • The supposed realism isn't actually described, so it's impossible to say whether it's unprecedented or not, or even if it's there at all. • There is no destiny to build since there's no actual storyline or progression or even any real persistence. • There is no character building, much less any way to create a place in the galaxy. • The physics-simulation doesn't seem to feature physics, and combat complexity is close to zero due to point-and-click mouse controls. • it has no death mechanic beyond respawning; there is no weight to your deaths. • It has plenty of pre-rendered cutscenes, none of which represent what you can actually play in the game. The difference between the two is significant. • Its physics are broken, and definitely not Newtonian — Newtonian physics rely on stuff having mass and inertia, and the game doesn't really simulate those to any extent. • There is noting in the SC world that players can take ownership of. • The galaxy isn't a galaxy. It hasn't expanded beyond its few space stations in ages. • The FPS mode doesn't let you take the fight anywhere — it's just a fixed arena with no purpose. There are no distant worlds, cities, or upgrades to find and/or explore. • If it ever launches, 100 star systems with “multiple landing points” makes it not quite twice as large as Freelancer. • There is no galaxy simulation or world dynamics, and no mission generation. • The game has no economy. • Your opinion only matters if it's in line with what CIG wants, otherwise it's deleted. • If you play today, none of the points on that list is even remotely accurate. I love lists.
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Drunk Theory posted:Mirificus. Not that I'm telling you to stop, but just wanted to point out. In the last 100+ posts you've made in this thread, only one sentence is your own words. Mirificus IRL, don't ask how I got this pic 
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MedicineHut posted:Trying to update this from almost a year ago. Solid progress. Star Citizen: Loss of conceptual integrity
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Apr 17, 2017 22:05
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Drunk Theory posted:Mirificus. Not that I'm telling you to stop, but just wanted to point out. In the last 100+ posts you've made in this thread, only one sentence is your own words. We must be informed every time one of 3 weirdos talks about Derek's family or genitals, otherwise...
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Apr 17, 2017 22:30
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Tippis posted:I'm trying to find one of those features that is actually in the game at the moment. You can own t shirts. Therefore you are just spreading FUD and you whole list is invalid because of it. Checkmate goonie.
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Apr 17, 2017 22:37
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Hav posted:Development started Two Weeks ago; Holy poo poo the full diagram, I'd not seen it yet. I'm really looking forward to seeing if they give monthly updates on their progress. I love watching coloured bars growing in size.
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Apr 17, 2017 22:37
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do the noodle machines that are so prominent in the game do anything?
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Apr 17, 2017 22:40
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Snazzy Frocks posted:do the noodle machines that are so prominent in the game do anything? what does your heart tell you
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Apr 17, 2017 22:42
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Snazzy Frocks posted:do the noodle machines that are so prominent in the game do anything? Much like their namesake, they sit in big lump and do nothing but dispense noise.
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https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/854086117448065024
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