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WampaLord posted:Well, that's Worf's whole deal, really. He's a weeaboo for what he thinks proper Klingon culture is and you can just see K'ehlar roll her eyes like in a "oh my god, you were saving yourself for marriage? I can't even" way when he says that they now must take the Oath. Dax even calls him out on this in DS9: "...for a Klingon who was raised by Humans, wears a Starfleet uniform, and drinks prune juice, you're pretty attached to tradition"
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Roddenberry's spirit has risen, and is angrily demanding the entire series be started-over because the windows are the wrong shape and he hasn't slept with any cast members
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Sonequa Martin-Green has to be saying, "Uh, you know I quit one of the most popular shows on television for this, right?"
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Apr 17, 2017 21:39
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Does anyone have (a link to) a summary of what's been causing so many issues for Discovery?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does anyone have (a link to) a summary of what's been causing so many issues for Discovery? http://www.cbs.com/
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Timby posted:Sonequa Martin-Green has to be saying, "Uh, you know I quit one of the most popular shows on television for this, right?" She left The Walking Dead (TV show) for the walking dead tv show 
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Star Trek Discovery blinked reflexively behind the glass when CBS slammed his hand against the tank. Its dreaming half-baked reptile brain couldn't comprehend fear let alone react to it. The bloated slug that was once The Big Bang Theory scrabbled in the pit below kicking mounds of dirt wherever it awkwardly slithered. It found its way to a corner and chuffed loudly before bending over the formeless remains of what Supergirl had chewed off to escape to CW. NCIS studied it nervously from across the enclosure before turning its ancient gaze up to its master as if to ask why. "They'll think I spared this world from you Star Trek Discovery, but really it's the other way around" said CBS. Wiping away the condensation on STD's gestation pod felt almost like drying a tear, but regret was a thing of the past. Old business for last quarter. "Better to do this now, before you develop the ability to feel pain."
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It can only be a maximum of two chapters and each chapter can be a maximum of 15 pages.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Does anyone have (a link to) a summary of what's been causing so many issues for Discovery? Two issues. They signed Bryan Fuller as exec, but he had to leave halfway because of other commitments. And CBS thought they could shart this show out in a few months and they're rushing the poo poo out of it, filming half-done scripts on half-done sets, and still missing every deadline, when every past Trek show had like a year of development time.
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They are so used to making GBS threads out multi camera sitcoms that they had no idea it takes months or years to develop a real TV show.
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The show will end up being produced by the Axanar guys.
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I was already feeling like it was rock-bottom for Discovery anyway, so maybe a delay will be good simply because it couldn't get any worse. I mean, they just figured out their casting like 20 minutes ago. If it was released son after now, it would be 100% hot garbage. This way, it will be 99% hot garbage, and we get to wonder about that other 1%. 
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Or maybe it will release and be awesome; we can all sit back in our internet east chairs and shake our heads with mild bemusement, wondering how we could have ever gotten STF so wrong.
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Cojawfee posted:They are so used to making GBS threads out multi camera sitcoms that they had no idea it takes months or years to develop a real TV show. I'd not be surprised that this is the issue. They've spent the last decade at least just shoveling out sitcoms and fairly generic police procedural that a complex sci-fi show is now beyond the networks ability to produce. No one in staff has skills outside of those genres of tv.
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Here's hoping, but the more I hear, the less faith I have. It feels like the whole thing's turning into a cluster gently caress because they're tying it to CBS All-Access so they need to get it out ASAP, but by doing so they not only cost themselves Fuller's hand on the wheel, but seem to be half-assing everything else...and still can't make deadline. I mean maybe they can find a diamond in all that poo poo, but I'm increasingly concerned that they won't.
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vermin posted:Star Trek Discovery blinked reflexively behind the glass when CBS slammed his hand against the tank. Its dreaming half-baked reptile brain couldn't comprehend fear let alone react to it. The bloated slug that was once The Big Bang Theory scrabbled in the pit below kicking mounds of dirt wherever it awkwardly slithered. It found its way to a corner and chuffed loudly before bending over the formeless remains of what Supergirl had chewed off to escape to CW. NCIS studied it nervously from across the enclosure before turning its ancient gaze up to its master as if to ask why. Is this referencing something? It reads really well.
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jng2058 posted:Here's hoping, but the more I hear, the less faith I have. It feels like the whole thing's turning into a cluster gently caress because they're tying it to CBS All-Access so they need to get it out ASAP, but by doing so they not only cost themselves Fuller's hand on the wheel, but seem to be half-assing everything else...and still can't make deadline. The all access thing is a terrible idea, but they've had so long to get this show going and we still don't have anything substantial.
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Beachcomber posted:Is this referencing something? It reads really well. Thanks! I wasn't referencing anything (consciously). I just did it on the fly. Cojawfee posted:It can only be a maximum of two chapters and each chapter can be a maximum of 15 pages. Accurately describes my work ethic 
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Coq au Nandos posted:lol On the other hand with Voyager and Enterprise in mind any Excelsior series would have turned into the previously unknown adventures of Sulu versus the Borg.
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Senor Tron posted:On the other hand with Voyager and Enterprise in mind any Excelsior series would have turned into the previously unknown adventures of Sulu versus the Borg. Episode 2 Sulu must help a Vulcan Borg through Pon farr, while ensign Tuvok discovers a nebula made entirely of Scottish dinosaur DNA
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I suspect that's why, no matter how hard Takei pushed for the Excelsior series, it didn't happen. I suspect he wouldn't have put up with the Mad Libs style writing process, and he might have had enough pull to do something about it.
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Maybe CBS is hoping if they delay Discovery long enough people will forget about it and then they can hide it on some streaming service. Oh wait. If they really thought it was something that could stand on its own it would be on real tv, right after Survivor. They can't place it right into syndication like they did with TNG and DS9 since no on wants it anymore after VOY and ENT pushed away all the non-trekkers. Every network has always treated Star Trek, since TOS, is some "nerd" show to churn out to make a profit with the absolute least amount of effort and expense. Discovery is that times a million. CBS is ashamed of TV Star Trek fans and don't want them to interfere with the people they think matter, fans of Blue Bloods and NCIS. If you think I'm wrong, why isn't Kevin Can Wait exclusively on CBS all access? Last week Kevin Can Wait had a 6 million viewers on CBS, more than any episode of in the entire last three seasons for Enterpise. If they want tempt people to join all access, wouldn't the want to use a show that people want to watch? That is not why Discovery is going to all access, it is not a reward for Star Trek fans, it is an insult to show that nerds can suck it. They keep delaying it because Star Trek doesn't matter to them as much as The Big Bang Theory. The production problems would be fixed in a week if there were on the set of Criminal Minds. Or maybe it will be awesome and surprise me. Has anyone seen Kevin Can Wait, is it good?
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CBS is almost exclusively people leaving poo poo on or tuning in manually. NCIS has eleventy billion viewers but the Venn diagram of those viewers and viewers who would seek it out on a streaming service are two distinct circles. It's the same with Kevin Can Wait. Kevin Can Wait on a streaming service wouldn't get 6 million people if you aggregate all their streams of every episode for a whole year. CBS's core demographic and CBS All Access are at direct odds Spoeank fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Maybe CBS is hoping if they delay Discovery long enough people will forget about it and then they can hide it on some streaming service. Oh wait. Basically, almost no one under the age of 60 watches real TV anymore. The one thing keeping TV afloat, football ratings, declined by like 20% this year, an insanely huge drop. So the NFL finally panicked and began selling access to Amazon. Expect that trend to continue. Content producers are rushing to move everything they can to an online format.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Every network has always treated Star Trek, since TOS, is some "nerd" show to churn out to make a profit with the absolute least amount of effort and expense. I'm not sure there's really enough to establish a pattern there; the only network since NBC that ran Star Trek was UPN. And UPN/Paramount, for all their faults, didn't cheap out on Voyager and Enterprise. If CBS was so ashamed, why did they bother making it in the first place? Why not license the rights to a studio to sell the show to some other network (or cable channel?) and pick up zero-effort license royalties?
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If it wasn't a horrendously troubled production, would it really be Star Trek? They're just trying to bake in that natural flavor.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I'm not sure there's really enough to establish a pattern there; the only network since NBC that ran Star Trek was UPN. And UPN/Paramount, for all their faults, didn't cheap out on Voyager and Enterprise. When CBS (or was it NBC?) took the franchise over from UPN during Enterprise's last season they were asking for some stupid rear end poo poo because they didn't get it at all. Asking for present day top 40 music to be played and for T'Pol to lose the pointy ears.
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Hey, Jeff Bezos? Put in a bid for the rights to TV Trek. Thanks in advance.
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skooma512 posted:When CBS (or was it NBC?) took the franchise over from UPN during Enterprise's last season they were asking for some stupid rear end poo poo because they didn't get it at all. Asking for present day top 40 music to be played and for T'Pol to lose the pointy ears. Always one of my favourite stories about the hell of Enterprise. quote:Roger Lay, Jr: ...John Wentworth talks a lot about that. He's got a great story – which you'll probably see in the Season Two or three documentary – where, at one point, one executive in a meeting comes up to Rick and goes, "I have an idea. You guys have a restaurant on the Enterprise, right? Rick and Brannon are like, "Well, we have a mess hall, kind of like a cafeteria…" He says, "Well, here's the thing – every week, at the restaurant, the hottest young bands are gonna play. You know, we're gonna get a different hot, young band every week, they'll play in the restaurant."
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As a human cultural attache we have cloned the band Weezer to play in our mess hall
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Hahah what? "Captain, we've picked up these strange Aliens, they claim to be from the race of My Chemical Romance" "I've heard of them, lets go to the galley and watch their performance and then buy their compact disk, because this is something we do in the future"
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The_Doctor posted:Always one of my favourite stories about the hell of Enterprise.  Speaking of which, I just found a new low for ENT's theme song. "Impulse" was good at horror/sci fi, but holy poo poo was the intro jarring (and not in a good way). Picture Archer and Phlox wrestling a violent, screaming T'Pol onto a gurney and strapping her to it. There's a couple of lines before T'Pol issues a blood-curdling scream and then--- ~It's been a long road, gettin' from there to here~ What the gently caress, Enterprise theme song? What. The. gently caress.
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This is wanky as hell, but I feel like that episode especially is really fun with the lyrics of the intro song, because you can view them from a very hosed up lens with regards to what happens to the Vulcans.
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I don't think CBS is delaying it, the people making the show are delaying it. CBS desperately wants Star trek to be ready to put out. The studio wants to make it be decent.
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Cojawfee posted:I don't think CBS is delaying it, the people making the show are delaying it. CBS desperately wants Star trek to be ready to put out. The studio wants to make it be decent.
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Kazinsal posted:Hey, Jeff Bezos? Put in a bid for the rights to TV Trek. Thanks in advance. Ok, we'll split it. You get Bezos for Trek, but I already claimed Elon Musk for a B5 remaster.
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