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Pollyanna posted:This might be the first Persona where I genuinely wish I had their powers. Changing people's hearts sounds loving baller. Are you telling me you didn't want to crawl in TVs
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Harrow posted:I can't quite decide how I feel about Hard, but I think my take on it is just that it doesn't forgive mistakes. If you fail to get an ambush, you're going to get punished; if you don't debuff bosses, you're going to get punished; if you can't quickly figure out the weaknesses of new enemies, you're going to get punished. You basically have to treat enemies without weaknesses like minibosses because you're not going to be able to consistently kill them before they can attack, so debuff and use status effects to make sure they either can't attack or don't own you too hard when they do. I like the combat, but I don't like it so much that I want to be constantly repeating fights I just did. Especially when you're already encouraged to do nothing but combat for the longest stretches you can manage. And especially this early in the game, when I have so few ways of engaging with it to begin with.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Akechi's HERO getup is the agreed, friend
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RME posted:nocturnes difficulty is overhyped I agree, Digital Devil Saga as a pair of games are harder than Nocturne on a mechanical level, but Nocturne's just such a masterpiece of mechanics and aesthetics that its difficulty feels even more appropriate given the premise of the game. The game *should* be a grueling trial. It *should* feel like you are defying the odds and ascending to the highest echelons of power in order to attain victory. It accomplishes this in myriad ways, and I think its Hard mode was the only one a lot of SMT fans who came in of that era ever tried and/or completed, which further cemented its legendary status. It's also true that every SMT game since then has been a good point easier than it for virtue of just having better mechanics, like allowing you to select which skills you want to transition, or not having random encounters in the case of Persona. But Nocturne's design sense is just really solid, even now. Fundamentally speaking, the Amala Labyrinth is everything you could ask for from a dungeon crawl.
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You sought the Thrill of Death, and were not found wanting  .
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The biggest thing that makes Nocturne difficult is that the Luck stat is busted. It doesn't do loving anything  also this owns
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FractalSandwich posted:Those things appeal to me when I'm standing right next to a saferoom. Otherwise, the only way it's punishing me is by wasting my time, which I'm not interested in at all. If I could play on Hard with the "retry any fight" thing from Safe, I'd be all about that. Which Palace are you in? The first Palace I did all the way through on Hard was the third one. I think before then I just didn't have the resources to do that without having to spend like three days on each Palace, which (while probably the intended way to play) cuts into my anime friend hangout time and I can't allow that  . By the third Palace I had a couple of SP Adhesives and could afford to blow more SP on each fight, so I turned it up to Hard and had a pretty good time. It doesn't change random battles all that much except for how badly you get owned if you get surrounded, really, so sometimes I even forgot I was on Hard, especially in the fourth Palace. (The Anubis guys never failed to remind me, though.)Another option: play on Normal, turn it up to Hard for bosses?
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I agree, Digital Devil Saga as a pair of games are harder than Nocturne on a mechanical level, but Nocturne's just such a masterpiece of mechanics and aesthetics that its difficulty feels even more appropriate given the premise of the game. The game *should* be a grueling trial. It *should* feel like you are defying the odds and ascending to the highest echelons of power in order to attain victory. It accomplishes this in myriad ways, and I think its Hard mode was the only one a lot of SMT fans who came in of that era ever tried and/or completed, which further cemented its legendary status. Don't forget that it features Dante from the Devil May Cry series. I think that is the most important aspect of Nocturne's success as a game personally.
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I should really play Nocturne, as I never have. It's a PS2 classic on PS4 right?
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SettingSun posted:I should really play Nocturne, as I never have. It's a PS2 classic on PS4 right? Yep. It's a really good game, maybe the best mainline SMT game overall. And its soundtrack owns extremely hard, too. Beelzebub's theme is a real standout, I love the groovy background guitar under the organ part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb6J0-3KTnY Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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SettingSun posted:I should really play Nocturne, as I never have. It's a PS2 classic on PS4 right? Yes, my god, play that bad boy. Punch the gently caress out of a god. I dunno if it's on PS2 classics, Atlus was weird about EU publishing so I can't check Edit: Oh, it is Edit 2: ...not. It's on PS3's PS2 Classic section only. FauxLeather fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I agree, Digital Devil Saga as a pair of games are harder than Nocturne on a mechanical level, but Nocturne's just such a masterpiece of mechanics and aesthetics that its difficulty feels even more appropriate given the premise of the game. The game *should* be a grueling trial. It *should* feel like you are defying the odds and ascending to the highest echelons of power in order to attain victory. It accomplishes this in myriad ways, and I think its Hard mode was the only one a lot of SMT fans who came in of that era ever tried and/or completed, which further cemented its legendary status. Digital Devil Saga is far more forgiving than Nocturne, even with the consumption mechanics. Nocturne is just unashamed about wanting you to bring your absolute A-Game and punishing you for doing anything less than your best. And it rewards those who triumph with a drat good story  .
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SettingSun posted:I should really play Nocturne, as I never have. It's a PS2 classic on PS4 right? you definitely should, yes
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Harrow posted:It's a really good game, maybe the best mainline SMT game overall. And its soundtrack owns extremely hard, too. Super lukewarm take right here, but I'd say Nocturne's the best MegaTen game period with Raidou 2 King Abaddon coming in a very strong second place. hosed up that Europe never got King Abaddon though.
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Wait, Nocturne's on PS4? Since when? I thought it was only a PS2 classic on PS3?
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Something I do on replays is put it on hard difficulty and set the AI to control my party members. How does the AI handle the use of fire arms? If there's a enemy weak to shot, will the AI be smart and use a single shot or will they unload the whole clip?
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ChaosArgate posted:Wait, Nocturne's on PS4? Since when? I thought it was only a PS2 classic on PS3? looks like its classic is playable on PS3 only yeah that's a shame i still have my copy of nocturne, also only playable on PS3 so it's not like i get much further there
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ChaosArgate posted:Wait, Nocturne's on PS4? Since when? I thought it was only a PS2 classic on PS3? It is only on PS3 as a classic, yes.
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ChaosArgate posted:Wait, Nocturne's on PS4? Since when? I thought it was only a PS2 classic on PS3? Looking into it, the PSN listing has it for PS3 which is not a big deal for me. I still have thing hooked up since P5 has me wanting to play Ultimax.
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Harrow posted:Which Palace are you in?
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FractalSandwich posted:In the English version, I'm only halfway through the first Palace. I did this even though I read a bunch of people in the thread saying "Man, the first Palace seems super overtuned. I don't know how you're supposed to get through it on Hard", so really I have nobody to blame except myself. For me, the first Palace on Normal was harder than the fourth Palace on Hard, if that helps put it in perspective.
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But the cool kids said I can only sit at their table if I can beat all of Persona 5 on Hard with no continues!
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Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). Does this game punish you for dating multiple girls like in Golden?
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Tir McDohl posted:Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). Yes.
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Tir McDohl posted:Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). Yes and it's hilarious
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Tir McDohl posted:Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). They still come visit you at LeBlanc. Together. And beat the ever-loving poo poo out of you. Harrow posted:Yes and it's hilarious The text message from Ryuji is a priceless punchline. Just barely reading it before slumping out cold. 
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Tir McDohl posted:Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). You get a scene where you get busted and probably lose out on some faithful only scenes but there are no tangible gameplay losses or gains
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One thing I have to say I appreciate is that you have dialogue being like 'yo I want to date you' before you get into a relationship in P5. I still remember in previous Persona games starting a relationship by hugging a crying person which always felt a little weird.
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Tir McDohl posted:I foresee a lot of reloading in my future... batting cages
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They still come visit you at LeBlanc. Together. And beat the ever-loving poo poo out of you. I still maintain that they should've given you a joke bad end if you managed to romance all of them, just because you're not likely to live with nine women beating the poo poo out of you.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The text message from Ryuji is a priceless punchline. Just barely reading it before slumping out cold. It's the game's best instance of comedic timing, just absolutely beautiful LuiCypher posted:I still maintain that they should've given you a joke bad end if you managed to romance all of them, just because you're not likely to live with nine women beating the poo poo out of you. Especially when one of them is probably the only character who can fight without her Persona and another just casually swings an axe around all day.
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Harrow posted:It's the game's best instance of comedic timing, just absolutely beautiful My favourite part is Sojiro seeing exactly what's about to happen and getting the gently caress out of dodge before things turn violent.
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