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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
You know when you have a tab open and you don't remember how it got there?

http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/removed-skilled-occupations

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

quote:

Golfer

People used 457s to employ golfers? What the gently caress?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Les Affaires posted:

I'm pretty sure the point of a private school is to make money.

Most of them are designed to propagate religious belief while they make the money.

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013


Intelligence Officer: Because Australia's pretty drat low in intelligence right now, and we need to import intelligent people from overseas.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I like how judge and magistrate are out.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

quote:

Parole or Probation Officer

For those times when finding an Australian who is willing to sit on their arse and wait for people to check in is too difficult.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
The long suffering Blacksmith community will be welcoming this news.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

quote:

Turf Grower

Well now they're just taking the piss.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Well now they're just taking the piss.

How's he suppose to pile it if I don't grow it?

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Mods please change my name to attractive young brunette intern from Campelltown

I object to my fair city being smeared with loving Latham, he pissed off to Camden the moment he stopped being the member for Werriwa.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

Quantum Mechanic posted:

I object to my fair city being smeared with loving Latham, he pissed off to Camden the moment he stopped being the member for Werriwa.

One more piece of proof that Camden is a garbage place for garbage people

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Given the sheer number of ANZSCO codes it's highly likely that almost all of the removed occupations fall under a slightly differently-worded occupation that is still allowed.

Almost like the goal of the project is to be seen to do something while not actually doing anything.

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY
Turnbull is just posing for the right?

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

BBJoey posted:

Given the sheer number of ANZSCO codes it's highly likely that almost all of the removed occupations fall under a slightly differently-worded occupation that is still allowed.

Almost like the goal of the project is to be seen to do something while not actually doing anything.



Wrong. It's about getting PHON votes on other poo poo.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Could this result in a vote of no confidence if the commission jails him?

quote:

Liberal MP Stuart Robert tells CCC he bankrolled independent council candidates to block Labor
.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Ora Tzo posted:

Turnbull is just posing for the right?

no. what? hold on

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
hahaha there are so many people lining up to be an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Worker

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Comstar posted:

Could this result in a vote of no confidence if the commission jails him?
.

You missed the best part:

"Mr Robert told the inquiry he helped two former staffers who decided to run as Gold Coast council independents because he feared they would come up against union-backed opponents."

Also a different article, same topic

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/18/councillor-says-she-did-not-see-liberal-national-party-donation-until-after-election

"Kristyn Boulton tells Crime and Corruption Commission she initially thought $30,000 was a personal donation from Stuart Robert"

racing identity
Apr 5, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Recoome posted:

hahaha there are so many people lining up to be an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Worker

Weird thing to train for overseas

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


This new visa stuff is basically (a few short term for locals) jobs and (hurt long term) growth.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://www.twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/854322891575312385

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009


Such a weird list.

There is a focus on journalism/media/arts, a lot of movie production jobs, for example.

Media producers who produce only video? No TV presenters, how often do we import those?

Diver? that's a bloody weird choice. It's a very difficult profession to find talent in, anywhere in the world.

No metallurgists or Other Sports Officials.

Not doctors but dental staff. No sculptors, shearers or singers.

And definitely NO bloody deer or goat farmers. gently caress off, we're alpacas.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
It's a list of industries that didn't donate enough to the LNP.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

racing identity posted:

Weird thing to train for overseas

Yeah agreed because we don't have to import healthcare professionals already

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
GPs are being taken off though

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Why the gently caress do we need to import accountants and IT workers? Surely we can train enough of those through the university system.

Rather than having a list of approved job descriptions it'd probably be easier to just slap a $20k fee on any company looking at bringing in a 457. That way if it's something really important they can get someone regardless of the job but it might discourage recruiting a bunch of Cambodian electricians to work in the mines or whatever, plus $20k is probably relatively small compared to what you'd be paying someone with skills genuinely impossible to find in Australia. If we were really clever we could even adjust the fee based on the current unemployment/underemployment rate

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

gay picnic defence posted:

Why the gently caress do we need to import accountants and IT workers? Surely we can train enough of those through the university system.

Rather than having a list of approved job descriptions it'd probably be easier to just slap a $20k fee on any company looking at bringing in a 457. That way if it's something really important they can get someone regardless of the job but it might discourage recruiting a bunch of Cambodian electricians to work in the mines or whatever, plus $20k is probably relatively small compared to what you'd be paying someone with skills genuinely impossible to find in Australia. If we were really clever we could even adjust the fee based on the current unemployment/underemployment rate

It's about suppressing wages for people who are here not about finding people to fill a gap.

See also that map that shows the number of 457 workers per postcode strongly correlating with the unemployment rate.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Bogan King posted:


See also that map that shows the number of 457 workers per postcode strongly correlating with the unemployment rate.

I haven't seen this map, you have it handy?

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

Zenithe posted:

I haven't seen this map, you have it handy?

I do not I'm afraid. Was doing the rounds of wonks on Twitter (so Grog / Cowgill etc) 6 months back or so and I can't for the life of me work out the magic search term to bring it up.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
There's this

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/03/16/six-places-where-peter-dutton-was-wrong-457-visas

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Ahaha still Labor's fault of course. The one thing the LNP is consistent on.

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.

Thats the stuff.

--------------

I'm going to use this as evidence that universities should be banned

https://twitter.com/DaisyCousens/status/854200732530098179

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Bogan King posted:

Thats the stuff.

--------------

I'm going to use this as evidence that universities should be banned

https://twitter.com/DaisyCousens/status/854200732530098179

Uni degrees are toilet paper common now anyway. With the constant push to get more revenue from course fees there really isn't a high bar for entry or graduation.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Bogan King posted:

Thats the stuff.

--------------

I'm going to use this as evidence that universities should be banned

https://twitter.com/DaisyCousens/status/854200732530098179

I'm not surprised that Creative Writing is the appropriate qual for "journalists" at News Corpse.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
necrophilia is the new punk

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
My rear end has a Masters in Creative Writing. My dog whose head I stepped on and is now in a vegetative coma has a Masters in Creative Writing.

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.
I knew I shouldn't have gotten my masters in creative farting. I was so sure it was going to be the future.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
This is 100% confirmation bias, but if I get a student who doesn't even know how to log in to a computer, much less how to convert a document to PDF and submit it to turnitin, they're either doing religious studies or a Masters in Creative Writing. I'm not complaining. They keep me in a job.

Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.
https://twitter.com/oz_f/status/854454423707303936

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Bogan King
Jan 21, 2013

I'm not racist, I'm mates with Bangladesh, the guy who sells me kebabs. No, I don't know his real name.
People always talk up how many deadly creatures Australia has but no one ever mentions the thing most likely to kill you here is the toxic stupidity.

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