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Das Boo posted:Little late to the party but I just wish to confirm Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust is the prettiest goddamn film with the most blase story I've ever seen. Watch it on mute and it's probably loving magical, holy poo poo. The story isn't bad it's just nothing but a vehicle for the visuals.
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Pick posted:The story isn't bad it's just nothing but a vehicle for the visuals. Oh no, not bad. Just... there.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:00
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Sadly, in ways it's better than the light novel - Meyer Link and Charlotte gets almost no characterization in the novel, and the hunter's group dynamics is very different and rather gross.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:10
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Robindaybird posted:Sadly, in ways it's better than the light novel - Meyer Link and Charlotte gets almost no characterization in the novel, and the hunter's group dynamics is very different and rather gross. Well I ain't reading it, so spill it?
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Robindaybird posted:Sadly, in ways it's better than the light novel - Meyer Link and Charlotte gets almost no characterization in the novel, and the hunter's group dynamics is very different and rather gross.  ?
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Apr 18, 2017 20:13
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Oh, I looked it up. They repeatedly rape Leila. That's great.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:19
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Welp, alright. Of course they do. Japan, stop your poo poo.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:20
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Now the only mystery is... "'rather' gross"?
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roughly (I forgot her name, since I'm bad with names), the woman is basically raped by the rest of the crew, and wasn't as self-reliant, and she ends up falling in love with D. EDIT: I say rather because I'm going off on memory and can't confirm if I'm remember correctly or exaggerating it. I do love the setting, and there's some genuinely good books (Tale of the Dead Town, Journey to the Northern Sea 1 and 2), but as a whole, the VHD novels got a lot of issues, some of which did make me drop the series. Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 20:26
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Sucks that Kawajiri is stuck doing storyboard work and hasn't done anything major in nearly a decade. His aesthetic really defines the mid-late 90s for me.
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Pick posted:Oh, I looked it up. They repeatedly rape Leila. That's great. <looks up from over the top of the morning newspaper> Hrm, burn all down to the ground I guess.
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Pick posted:Oh, I looked it up. They repeatedly rape Leila. That's great. 
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Apr 18, 2017 20:55
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This adds fuel to my earlier conclusion.21 Muns posted:The quantity of money this "film" generated in Japan is, IMO, sufficient to justify a military intervention. (It was in excess of 300 million dollars. It was the highest-grossing thing at their box-office last year.)
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Apr 18, 2017 21:14
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That's an extreme reaction to not liking a random blockbuster, imo
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Apr 18, 2017 21:22
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You're literally saying we should bomb Japan again because they liked a movie you didn't, you weirdo.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:22
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They don't rape her in VHD Bloodlust and there's no indication they ever did. The movie is only very loosely related to the book from what I understand.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:33
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Oh wow, lotta posts about anime while I was asleep. So can someone tell me the consensus yet whether Your Name is a good and important film to watch or if it is a terrible and overrated film to avoid? Ooh and thanks for the Ernest and Celestine reminder, Drifter 
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Hedrigall posted:Oh wow, lotta posts about anime while I was asleep. So can someone tell me the consensus yet whether Your Name is a good and important film to watch or if it is a terrible and overrated film to avoid? It's probably 'objectively' good but subjectively overrated. Watch it if you like Shinkai movies.
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What's a shinkai movie
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Hedrigall posted:What's a shinkai movie Makoto Shinkai is a director
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Apr 18, 2017 22:29
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Oh I don't know anything about animes except for Miyazaki and Tezuka
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Hedrigall posted:Oh I don't know anything about animes except for Miyazaki and Tezuka Just imagine that instead of the animals you profess to ...ahem, "enjoy" in american cinematics, they're teenage kids with spiky hair and the social skills of a horny wombat.   
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PenguinKnight posted:If End of Evangelion didn't have a 26 episode series that should be watched first, I would put that on there as a good movie.  I honestly used to really enjoy Eva, but after a few years of letting myself digest it (plus the 3rd Rebuild film turning out to be a really lackluster mess), I've come to see it as kind of overrated. Still had some novel and interesting ideas for when it came out, but then we got stuff like the protagonist choking the chicken to one of his fellow pilots within five minutes of the movie starting. I mean, I understand that a lot of that stuff was shaped by Anno gradually shifting the tone of the series to a "go gently caress yourselves" aimed squarely at the hardcore fans who were lapping it up, but in retrospect? I think he wound up going way the gently caress too far.
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Sort of tangential to the discussion, but... is it just me or is there kind of a weird double standard with anime vs. other media? Like, the #1 TV show in America is Game of Thrones, which is basically a hair away from being rape porn. And yet I don't see anyone saying we deserve another 9/11 or Pearl Harbor for making a loving bad TV show. Meanwhile, Your Name having a boob joke in it, despite the movie being innocuous enough to earn a PG rating, makes it completely and utterly irredeemable and evidence that the Japanese are culturally inferior. Like, does this not strike anyone else as extremely loving weird? Am I the actual weird one here for not being absurdly grossed out whenever something from Japan brushes up against the topic of sex? 
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Apr 18, 2017 22:52
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Watching End of Evangelion was one of the most uncomfortable experiences I've ever had in a cinema. It owns!
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Apr 18, 2017 22:52
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Also End of Evangelion loving owns, thirded. Even if That Bit is a little gross, it is literally about ten seconds of the movie and the entire rest of the runtime kicks rear end.
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Drifter posted:Just imagine that instead of the animals you profess to ...ahem, "enjoy" in american cinematics, they're teenage kids with spiky hair and the social skills of a horny wombat. Y... you're weird
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Sort of tangential to the discussion, but... is it just me or is there kind of a weird double standard with anime vs. other media? It's just that one poster.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Like, does this not strike anyone else as extremely loving weird? Am I the actual weird one here for not being absurdly grossed out whenever something from Japan brushes up against the topic of sex? I think it's mostly just a meme itself now, rather than an actual reaction.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Sort of tangential to the discussion, but... is it just me or is there kind of a weird double standard with anime vs. other media? With your name it's just goons being weird but on the whole the industry's earned that lack of benefit of the doubt. As evidenced by YN itself anime films can be perfectly mainstream in japan, but most TV stuff is questionable late-night stuff targeted solely at obsessives.
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Regalingualius posted:I mean, I understand that a lot of that stuff was shaped by Anno gradually shifting the tone of the series to a "go gently caress yourselves" aimed squarely at the hardcore fans who were lapping it up, but in retrospect? I think he wound up going way the gently caress too far. the "go gently caress yourselves" tone is a myth created almost entirely by one big game of internet telephone
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I wish they'd move the Ghibli blurays into the normal animation section at the stores I visit so I don't have to step into the anime aisle
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Ghibli - anime for normals
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:the "go gently caress yourselves" tone is a myth created almost entirely by one big game of internet telephone Oh word? ... I'm not sure if that makes me dislike that sequence even more now.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:the "go gently caress yourselves" tone is a myth created almost entirely by one big game of internet telephone What is actually the correct tone, in your view? Because "go gently caress yourselves" seems pretty persuasive to me.
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Regalingualius posted:Oh word? Nah, don't get me wrong, that sequence is about Shinji being gross and selfish... in the context of having a nervous breakdown, because he's a child soldier caught in the middle of a power play between adults whose motives he doesn't understand and who have constantly abused his trust. Like, EoE is not just some self-referential ouroboros about Evangelion fans. It's got a much broader variety of things to say than that.
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Fangz posted:What is actually the correct tone, in your view? Evangelion in general is incredibly sympathetic to broken people, without ever going over to saying "there's nothing wrong with being broken." People constantly misinterpret this as hostility, which ironically speaks pretty poorly of a fandom (or hate-fandom, perhaps) who take "it's not good to be broken and alone, you should strive to fix yourself" as an attack rather than a mixture of hope and pity.
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Fangz posted:What is actually the correct tone, in your view? Evangelion isn't a bitter "you loving suck and I hate you" thing. It's genuinely a work that has something to say about relationships between people and how hosed up and messed up they can be. There is an undercurrent of anger to it but the anger isn't just at hardcore fans because they suck but anger at a lot of things including Anno having anger at himself. The franchise is critical as a whole of anime nerds but keep in mind that criticism includes the staff. It isn't people doing a gently caress-you to people they hate, it involves a lot of personal elements, self-loathing and a healthy dose of massively slashed budget. But it's also sympathetic and it cares. It doesn't want you to go to hell. It wants people to grow and become better. Shinji is a hosed-up and broken kid and you're supposed to pity him, not hate him. The only thing Evangelion really truly despises is people who cut themselves off entirely and even them it treats as sad, not evil.
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Hedrigall posted:I wish they'd move the Ghibli blurays into the normal animation section at the stores I visit so I don't have to step into the anime aisle 
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Uh... Anime movies, huh? I watched Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions a few weeks ago. I liked it. I also love Pom Poko and the Digimon Adventure Tri. stuff.. Drifter posted:Just imagine that instead of the animals you profess to ...ahem, "enjoy" in american cinematics, they're teenage kids with spiky hair and the social skills of a horny wombat. I feel like I've been summoned here by this post. Seriously, I want Clawhauser to get more screen time in the inevitable sequel. Can we talk about the Spider-Man animated movie here when it comes?
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