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Just rewatched the original Beauty and the Beast for the first time in a while. I didn't pick up on it before, but the prologue says the beast had "until his 21st year" to find true love, and then later during "Be Our Guest" Lumiere says "for ten years we've been waiting." Which means the beast was cursed when he was 11 years old. Nice going, fairy princess. You tormented a child and a castle full of innocents for a decade because an 11 year old snubbed you. The real villain of the film? The fairy who did the curse.
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Applewhite posted:Just rewatched the original Beauty and the Beast for the first time in a while. I didn't pick up on it before, but the prologue says the beast had "until his 21st year" to find true love, and then later during "Be Our Guest" Lumiere says "for ten years we've been waiting." Which means the beast was cursed when he was 11 years old. I don't remember any of that from the original. 
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Apr 19, 2017 13:29
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Applewhite posted:Just rewatched the original Beauty and the Beast for the first time in a while. I didn't pick up on it before, but the prologue says the beast had "until his 21st year" to find true love, and then later during "Be Our Guest" Lumiere says "for ten years we've been waiting." Which means the beast was cursed when he was 11 years old. Well I believe it says in the open that it 'would bloom until his 21st year' and he had 'until the last petal fell' so there is some kind of time span between turning 21 and the deadline. No idea what that would be. As an addendum, 11 was considered pretty mature in regards to nobility, servants were considered extensions of their lords person, etc.
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Apr 19, 2017 13:30
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LeJackal posted:Well I believe it says in the open that it 'would bloom until his 21st year' and he had 'until the last petal fell' so there is some kind of time span between turning 21 and the deadline. No idea what that would be. I'll buy that. Sure. Cuz the beast seems like he's in his 30s or even 40s. It doesn't explain why the townsfolk have no memory or legends about a castle inhabited by a beast that has been cursed not earlier than ten years previously.
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Apr 19, 2017 13:37
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Robindaybird posted:This is something I notice with ALL Tim Burton's movies, even the stuff that's considered unequivocally good - there's this kind of sterileness in the direction and set that keeps the audience at arm's reach from the characters and actions. What I'm taking away from this whole conversation is that Tim Burton essentially makes live-action anime
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Apr 19, 2017 13:53
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Went to see Your Name and enjoyed it. I didn't know anything about the plot except the body-swapping thing, so I was pretty surprised about where the story went. There are some moments I wish weren't in the film (like the third/fourth/fifth boob-grab or the panty shot), but it seemed like a solid story and the visuals were beautiful. I do have to say, though, that the anime films I've seen over the past few years are that, When Marnie Was There (loved it, became a big Priscilla Ahn fan), Paprika, and Perfect Blue. So, I'm pretty ready for a straightforward story without time travel or weird mindfuckery at this point, goddamn. Edit: I feel like some of these suggestions are not entirely sincere. Second edit: Thank you all for the recommendations! surf rock fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 15:15
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Watch Tokyo Godfathers, it has zero fantastical elements and is also extremely good.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:41
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surf rock posted:So, I'm pretty ready for a straightforward story without time travel or weird mindfuckery at this point, goddamn. The lower key Ghibli movies are pretty good for this. Only Yesterday, Whispers of the Heart, and probably Ocean Waves although I haven't seen it yet. Whispers of the Heart is pretty chill.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:42
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Watch Mind Game, a guy gets fatally shot in the butt and outruns God for a second shot at life. e: this isn't directed at "want something simpler" guy, this is just general life advice Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 15:44
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surf rock posted:Went to see Your Name and enjoyed it. I didn't know anything about the plot except the body-swapping thing, so I was pretty surprised about where the story went. There are some moments I wish weren't in the film (like the third/fourth/fifth boob-grab or the panty shot), but it seemed like a solid story and the visuals were beautiful. A Silent Voice :p
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Apr 19, 2017 15:47
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surf rock posted:Went to see Your Name and enjoyed it. I didn't know anything about the plot except the body-swapping thing, so I was pretty surprised about where the story went. There are some moments I wish weren't in the film (like the third/fourth/fifth boob-grab or the panty shot), but it seemed like a solid story and the visuals were beautiful. Belladonna of Sadness. 
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Apr 19, 2017 16:18
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Troposphere posted:avs you should watch naoki urasawa's monster This is very important and doesn't belong at the bottom of the last page. But why oh why is it SO HARD TO FIND NOW?
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Apr 19, 2017 16:27
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surf rock posted:Went to see Your Name and enjoyed it. I didn't know anything about the plot except the body-swapping thing, so I was pretty surprised about where the story went. There are some moments I wish weren't in the film (like the third/fourth/fifth boob-grab or the panty shot), but it seemed like a solid story and the visuals were beautiful. A Jewish Girl in Shanghai. Then watch any of the roughly 5 billion Monkey King movies and youll have watched 90% of chinese media plots.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:28
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Das Boo posted:This is very important and doesn't belong at the bottom of the last page. But why oh why is it SO HARD TO FIND NOW? The DVD release was cancelled after the first volume and it was taken off of iTunes. Probably the only place a lot of people have seen the dub in its entirety is it's run on Sci Fi. I tracked it down to rewatch and I need to get back to watching it.
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Apr 19, 2017 16:31
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Here it is The worst dub 
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Flaccid Trip posted:Here it is Unironically one of my favorite movies growing up and I watched it constantly. Only later did I learn its terrible secret...
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Crazy Ferret posted:Unironically one of my favorite movies growing up and I watched it constantly. Only later did I learn its terrible secret... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film)#Warriors_of_the_Wind quote:Dissatisfied with Warriors of the Wind, Miyazaki adopted a strict "no-edits" clause for further foreign releases of Studio Ghibli's films.[17] On hearing Miramax co-chairman Harvey Weinstein would attempt to edit Princess Mononoke to make it more marketable, Toshio Suzuki sent an authentic katana with a simple message: "No cuts".
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Apr 19, 2017 18:13
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IUG posted:ahahaha It's pretty great. That box art is incredibly bad and misleading. There is no pegasus, no robo-skeletor, there is a male pilot character in the movie but he certainly takes a back seat to the main female character who is shoved to the upper right corner. Its so weird. I actually kind of wished I knew how the box art came to be. Glad that I own the Blu-Ray now. Such a great movie.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:22
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Waffleman_ posted:The DVD release was cancelled after the first volume and it was taken off of iTunes. Probably the only place a lot of people have seen the dub in its entirety is it's run on Sci Fi. I tracked it down to rewatch and I need to get back to watching it. I've been trying for years to get my hands on the boxset. It's my absolute favorite graphic novel series and since it's hideously difficult to get Western friends to read 18 volumes in that right-to-left format, I want to show them the anime. I get that it's not popular Stateside because it's the most non-anime anime, but gently caress do I wish it was available in some honest format. I was very lucky to catch the Sci Fi run for my mother and it was extremely her poo poo. And Paranoia Agent is hard to find and that makes no sense. What the hell. My things.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:27
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That's why I hope the HBO adaptation gets off the ground and leads Viz to have a second go at releasing it.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:33
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Waffleman_ posted:That's why I hope the HBO adaptation gets off the ground and leads Viz to have a second go at releasing it. The del Toro one? Me, too. 
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Apr 19, 2017 18:37
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Crazy Ferret posted:It's pretty great. That box art is incredibly bad and misleading. There is no pegasus, no robo-skeletor, there is a male pilot character in the movie but he certainly takes a back seat to the main female character who is shoved to the upper right corner. Its so weird. I actually kind of wished I knew how the box art came to be. The Warrior of the Wind cover is bad and embarrassing and the film is hacked up, but I think the essential story content is intact and most of the beauty is there as I understand it. It's not as painful, personally, as what happened with the Digimon movie. With the hacking together of three unrelated movies, replacing the creepy classical music with lovely pop, adding endless voiceover and dialogue to characters that don't talk.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:41
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The Digimon movie soundtrack was the playlist that defined its generation, dammit.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:43
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Waffleman_ posted:The Digimon movie soundtrack was the playlist that defined its generation, dammit. thats why trump won
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Apr 19, 2017 18:48
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IT'S BEEN ONE WEEK SINCE YOU LOOKED AT ME
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Apr 19, 2017 18:49
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https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/854764338254454784 That is... definitely a casting choice, yes. I dunno, I'm not against it, though I would've assumed they'd go with a stand-up comic again.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:12
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i can kind of dig it, it's better than trying to find someone to do an imitation of robin williams
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Apr 19, 2017 20:13
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I will only accept it if he does a rap.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:20
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Didn't they have an issue with potentially casting a black actor in the role of an enslaved character the first time around? I seem to recall some uncomfortableness.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:22
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...Christ, I didn't even think about that angle. 
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Apr 19, 2017 20:25
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well at least they can look to the sterling example of Kazaam to help figure out how to handle it
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Apr 19, 2017 20:25
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Might as well go Full Magical Negro and cast Morgan Freeman.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:38
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:well at least they can look to the sterling example of Kazaam to help figure out how to handle it so... basically don't touch it with a 50-foot pole? 
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Das Boo posted:Didn't they have an issue with potentially casting a black actor in the role of an enslaved character the first time around? I seem to recall some uncomfortableness. I usually don't like the term, but this sounds like political correctness being raised for no reason
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Apr 19, 2017 22:31
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Shadow Hog posted:https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/854764338254454784 This is the first thing to get me excited for this. That is fresh casting. "Genie, make me a prince!" ::Moves Aladdin with his Uncle and Auntie in Bel Air::
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Apr 19, 2017 22:34
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This was inevitable ever since Will Smith used the I Dream Of Jeannie theme song as a sample in Girls Ain't Nothing But Trouble
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Apr 19, 2017 22:40
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surf rock posted:I do have to say, though, that the anime films I've seen over the past few years are that, When Marnie Was There (loved it, became a big Priscilla Ahn fan), Paprika, and Perfect Blue. So, I'm pretty ready for a straightforward story without time travel or weird mindfuckery at this point, goddamn. Are you ready for My Neighbors the Yamadas?
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Apr 20, 2017 00:30
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or "Grave of the Fireflies"? (most people aren't ready for it)
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Apr 20, 2017 00:41
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ringu0 posted:Are you ready for My Neighbors the Yamadas? I really like that film.
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