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Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

spacetoaster posted:

Soooo a pre-cursor to Obama?

No, Nixon was a liberal

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Mr President
Nov 13, 2016

by Lowtax


Wow so much for the tolerant left!

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Yug posted:

No, Nixon was a liberal

But he liked killing people too?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mr President posted:

Wow so much for the tolerant left!

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

Jose Oquendo posted:

Remember that time when Hillary killed a goon while he was playing EVE Online? IRL and it was all of us and we're just ghosts?

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Pick posted:

I still don't like Sanders, because he didn't have a track record of getting any poo poo done. And 12 years of "hope and change" evaporating into faint scents of horse piss is too long to expect to ever have an engaged electorate again.

Sherrod Brown or bust.

I knew from the get go that a President Bernie Sanders would accomplish absolutely nothing as Congress would block anything he tried to do, I mainly just wanted him in office so he could veto poo poo.

Pick posted:

I don't have huge problems with George Bush Sr. but boh oh boy do his sons suck rear end.

I dunno. I didn't think I'd ever say this, but between the Trump administration and the sinking ship of the Democratic party, I almost kinda miss Dubya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g

down n out
Sep 16, 2008

Nap Ghost
I expect some kick rear end punk music in a few years when automation and deregulated corporations kick into high gear.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

COMRADES posted:

You'll take motherfucking NIXON???

LOL that guy was literally an insane murdering war criminal who extorted the Fed to run interest rates hot (damaging to the economy long term, great for like 6-12 months) leading up to his re-election so he could go "see I fixed this poo poo!" Plus the drug war.

Like literally he funded right wing death squads and toppled democratically elected leaders and replaced them with insane dictators like Pinochet.

He was a liar and a criminal.

Nixon truely was the most qualified president

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

Trump is not good at being president.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Gammatron 64 posted:

I dunno. I didn't think I'd ever say this, but between the Trump administration and the sinking ship of the Democratic party, I almost kinda miss Dubya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCm9788Tb5g

We should have made Dubya the Idiot King of America. He could have been like the Queen of England with a purely ceremonial role.He would have thrown first pitches. waved in parades, provided fodder for comedians, and provided a unifying symbol of our hatred for our government.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

NomChompsky posted:

Trump is not good at being president.

not being good at being president is his most endearing quality

wanting someone good at being president is like wanting a better virus

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Pick posted:

I still don't like Sanders, because he didn't have a track record of getting any poo poo done. And 12 years of "hope and change" evaporating into faint scents of horse piss is too long to expect to ever have an engaged electorate again.

Sherrod Brown or bust.

He'd ratcheted out an assload of small wins via amendments. Dude was central to getting $1,000,000,000 in funding for Community Health Centers added to Obamacare.

And that's on top of decades of winning elections against Republicans and Democrats calling him a socialist

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Yeah, but Sander's record and accomplishments don't count because IT'S NOT HIS TURN!

The whole "accomplishment" thing is the DNC/Clintonite wolf-whistle for "white man equals racist, misogynist nazi transphobe".

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Like, they could just say "nazi" and be done with it but I've noticed they love to rattle off all the labels.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

SickZip posted:

not being good at being president is his most endearing quality

wanting someone good at being president is like wanting a better virus

The problem isn't even whether someone is good or bad at being president. The problem is that Americans only give a poo poo about the president, and judge all success or failure of the government as a whole as a measure of the president's ability. This means that any time a president makes promises, and fails to deliver them, it causes the people to distrust the government as a whole, and it just keeps going down.

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

Accretionist posted:

He'd ratcheted out an assload of small wins via amendments. Dude was central to getting $1,000,000,000 in funding for Community Health Centers added to Obamacare.

And that's on top of decades of winning elections against Republicans and Democrats calling him a socialist

he is also directly part of how cuomo was able to push the excelsior grant thing so new york will as of this fall be the first state to pay for a bachelors degree for residents who make under 90 grand or something, it's a 3 year plan that raises the cap income each year and is completely based on bernie and the ideas hillary stole and modified from him

cuomo even had bernie present it with him on stage despite hillary being a former new york state senator and bernie representing vermont

i repeat: even a jerk off like cuomo was inspired by bernie and honest enough to bring the real man of the people into the funding of education

NomChompsky posted:

The problem isn't even whether someone is good or bad at being president. The problem is that Americans only give a poo poo about the president, and judge all success or failure of the government as a whole as a measure of the president's ability. This means that any time a president makes promises, and fails to deliver them, it causes the people to distrust the government as a whole, and it just keeps going down.

this will always be true as long as americans are working 50 hours a week but clocked in at 39 hours and not getting health care, they don't have time effort or energy to be involved in every branch of government and they hear the news while drinking coffee on their way to work or while some guy yells about it on a video game as they pass out into the crevice of their dirty couch cushions

extra stout fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 19, 2017

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

phasmid posted:

Yeah, but Sander's record and accomplishments don't count because IT'S NOT HIS TURN!

The whole "accomplishment" thing is the DNC/Clintonite wolf-whistle for "white man equals racist, misogynist nazi transphobe".

Also Bernie Sanders is Jewish so calling him a Nazi is even dumber and shittier than usual. And the first non-Christian president would be even more progressive than the first woman one, even though a lot of dopes think Obama was a secret Muslim.

However that accomplishment also applied to the other candidates too, because Hillary Clinton worships Satan and Trump worships himself.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

This post was prophetic.

quote:

they haven't even begun against each other.

The next 8 months will be where we really enter into the jungle

Clinton has had an easy primary against a gentleman who avoided ugly personal attacks and refused to talk about emails or benghazi or whatever.


Trump has edged his way through the most vicious primary battle in recent history, with all of his own party elites lining up trying to take him down and an unprecedented
media obsession with how crazy this guy is


when the nominations are finalized, the republican party is going to stop cannibalizing itself, they will fall in line behind the strongman and they will support him. the
right wing propaganda machine will coalesce around him and every GOP faction and right wing media organization and think tank is going to unleash the hell they've been
storing up for 20 years to use against her.

it's going to be a total poo poo show

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

VikingSkull posted:

"hmmmmm, white women don't care about a racism, but they like pumpkin spice! maybe we should add pumpkin spice to racism so that they...... like it? wait, that can't be right...... ahhh gently caress it I already painted the upside down flag"

they did ultimately vote for the more pumpkinesque candidate

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

COMRADES posted:

You'll take motherfucking NIXON???

LOL that guy was literally an insane murdering war criminal who extorted the Fed to run interest rates hot (damaging to the economy long term, great for like 6-12 months) leading up to his re-election so he could go "see I fixed this poo poo!" Plus the drug war.

Like literally he funded right wing death squads and toppled democratically elected leaders and replaced them with insane dictators like Pinochet.

He was a liar and a criminal.

I'd take Nixon over Trump, yeah. I'm not saying Nixon wasn't an insane war criminal but at least he knew how the government worked and wasn't a malleable literal idiot. Also he knew where the wind was blowing on certain stuff and didn't fight it.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Like I can't express how bad I think every president in my living memory has been.

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

in all honesty trump is probably the best republican president because he is extremely incompetent at accomplishing things. i fully expect this post to bite me in the rear end once we get into nuclear war with north korea.

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

i don't know why you would want your political enemies to be intelligent and competent, really

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Stexils posted:

in all honesty trump is probably the best republican president because he is extremely incompetent at accomplishing things. i fully expect this post to bite me in the rear end once we get into nuclear war with north korea.

Except for appointing Supreme Court Justices. :colbert:

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

spacetoaster posted:

Except for appointing Supreme Court Justices. :colbert:

argh, ya got me!!

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Trump is hilarious and I'm glad he's president.

Mr President
Nov 13, 2016

by Lowtax

phasmid posted:

Like, they could just say "nazi" and be done with it but I've noticed they love to rattle off all the labels.

Tell me about it.




(------------ I got this tag in the comics section of this forum for not liking the fact that DC comics took an established straight character and made him gay. Apparently questioning liberals is a huge crime now. Any time I post there now I get a 1 week ban.

polysynth
Dec 12, 2006

rock out

Mr President posted:

(------------ I got this tag in the comics section of this forum for not liking the fact that DC comics took an established straight character and made him gay. Apparently questioning liberals is a huge crime now. Any time I post there now I get a 1 week ban.

The comics section of these forums is hosed up Man

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

Mr President posted:

Tell me about it.




(------------ I got this tag in the comics section of this forum for not liking the fact that DC comics took an established straight character and made him gay. Apparently questioning liberals is a huge crime now. Any time I post there now I get a 1 week ban.

This post of yours

Mr President posted:

Good. Racism and discrimination against any group of people is wrong and has no place in the comic industry.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)


What the hell, a probation for that!? Like, seriously. What. the. gently caress.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Poetic Justice posted:

This post of yours



What the hell, a probation for that!? Like, seriously. What. the. gently caress.

Just what kind of person do you think becomes mod of these subforums? GBS is actually pretty lucky in comparison, we can actually talk about things not in lock step with the mods.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

LGD posted:

they did ultimately vote for the more pumpkinesque candidate

it's a goddamned shame that many replies occurred between my post and this one

goons be slippin

Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

Mr President posted:

Tell me about it.




(------------ I got this tag in the comics section of this forum for not liking the fact that DC comics took an established straight character and made him gay. Apparently questioning liberals is a huge crime now. Any time I post there now I get a 1 week ban.

This is what happens when you're allowed unchecked authority to claim people that disagree with you are socially unacceptable.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
and about a superhero thingie no less. good grief no one involved in that conversation should have given a poo poo.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
"I think the Blue Torb should be gay" "I disagree about the Blue Torb"

^^^ already too invested in the life & times of the Blue Torb

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
my favorite recent comics shenanigans is the gnashing of teeth about the whitewashing of Iron Fist, despite that character always being a white dude

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.
I'm sincerely curious what cognitive sorting takes place that the comic book people lean bizarrely strong in that direction, and video fake people are bizarrely strong in the other direction. I'm generalizing but that seems generally true and not only on SA.

Someone get some social psychologists on this.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I checked out of BSS a looooong time ago. There was this cabal of like 6 or 7 posters including the mod who would talk about other posters in IRC. They'd complain about wrongthink, dig up other 'dirt' on the poster, and have the mod probate them or push bans through.

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

The Landstander posted:

I'm sincerely curious what cognitive sorting takes place that the comic book people lean bizarrely strong in that direction, and video fake people are bizarrely strong in the other direction. I'm generalizing but that seems generally true and not only on SA.

Someone get some social psychologists on this.

comics actually have a pretty proud tradition of being firmly left leaning, probably due to decades of them being part of the counterculture

they only recently went mainstream, with the Marvel Universe poo poo

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

VikingSkull posted:

comics actually have a pretty proud tradition of being firmly left leaning, probably due to decades of them being part of the counterculture

they only recently went mainstream, with the Marvel Universe poo poo

You're right which makes BSS even more bizarre because according to them literally every comic ever has been 'problematic.'

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Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

"gently caress making new and interesting characters if we want diversity, let's slap a different coat of pain on the old ones!"

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