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Rock, Statham, Luke, Luda, Tyrese, let's say Deepika Padukone and Han, and a matriarch in Helen Mirren who can get behind the wheel and man assault weapons I will appreciate. I could do with one more Mr Nobody appearance and Theron was good.
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I guess I should spoiler this? Even though the "BETRAYAL KISS" is in the trailer, Cipher has a line of dialogue like, "these are advanced sense disorienting grenades, they last an hour" and instead of having the ohHH DAYUM reaction at the kiss, I felt like "Oh, Letty's only imagining the kiss because we've gone into Joker grenades territory" which I was down with, so I was just nodding sagely to myself. I subsequently did have the OH daaamn moment when Dom in the next scene lays on the thick "So was that for you, for me, or for her?" like a thousand year old, pissed off sleepy dragon. This movie is a total soap opera and that is why it's good.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:20
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The success of this franchise has been so bizarre. I wonder if any other franchise could replicate it. Jurassic Park has a similar split of its leads across sequels, and could presumably have a fifth with Sam Neil, Goldblum, Pratt and anyone else still alive. Pirates of the Caribbean maybe?
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Apr 19, 2017 22:00
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Ravel posted:The success of this franchise has been so bizarre. I wonder if any other franchise could replicate it. I have no doubt there are schizophrenic cork board+string abominations in every studio office trying to do exactly this. But it's even more embarrassing to attempt(and fail) to replicate than the Marvel Formula so nobody even has the balls to speak of the Furious Formula publicly
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Apr 19, 2017 22:26
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Is there even a formula? The sequels didn't measure up until the fifth film so I'd love to hear a producer explain how they were going to copy the F&F formula, but only the good parts.
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Apr 20, 2017 00:38
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Here's the formula.
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Lobok posted:Is there even a formula? The sequels didn't measure up until the fifth film so I'd love to hear a producer explain how they were going to copy the F&F formula, but only the good parts. Hundreds of scribled criss cross notes saying Family
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Apr 20, 2017 00:58
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The "formula" is that a great director was able to make a spinoff of a series that had sputtered, and put enough style and characterization in it to draw the attention of the franchise stakeholders to do a follow-up that surprised everyone with its box office explosion. This allowed that director and the star to craft a film bringing together a bunch of varied characters with a history and legacy that fans appreciated, the same way that the comic book films draw upon audience recognition. The difference is that history came entirely organically from how schizophrenic the styles of each of the previous films were, and putting them all together was a high-risk undertaking that required a master of the craft. This is not a "formula" anyone can recreate except with time travel and/or a transcendent AI
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Lobok posted:Is there even a formula? The sequels didn't measure up until the fifth film so I'd love to hear a producer explain how they were going to copy the F&F formula, but only the good parts. No, but there's no Marvel Formula either, they're just making big flashy movies starring fun loving quippy people doing cool things people want to see and executives respond with "yo we own the rights to frankenstein and the wolf man what if THEY did a team up movie too?? people LOVE team up movies these days!" the secret ingredient is the "...things people want to see." part but all they have are garbage properties they dont know what to do with. I'm sure this was always the case but it seems super egregious lately. fuckin blade runner sequel 30 years later lmao
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This is not a "formula" anyone can recreate except with time travel and/or a transcendent AI Exactly. Anything else about the success of the franchise is just about making good action movies in general or marketing appeal like "hm, people like good-natured outlaws, and humour, and cool cars, and sex appeal, and women characters who get to do stuff? What a breakthrough!"
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Giving people what they want without loving it up in the name of artistry or style is apparently hard to do if you look at the crap WB is putting out. And part of what made Fast Five so great was how unexpected it was. I think a bunch of people assumed it would be hot garbage. I love me some Rock but his movie career was in the shitter at the time too. You're not going to recreate that surprise anymore
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The other thing I noticed about the franchise is that it's the only film(s) apart from After Earth that I can think of with more than one black lead that isn't explicitly about race or racially coded in some way. By non racially coded I mean not like Rush Hour or Bad Boys. Denzel was supposed to have Brad Pitt's role in se7en, and Will Smith was courted for Neo. I don't think Morgan Freeman or Laurence Fishbourne would have been cast in those circumstances, that's the sort of thing I mean.
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It's also a dopey car chase series that managed to attract a serious piece of talent in Justin Lin, who was really hot property. If anyone hasn't seen it, Better Luck Tomorrow is fantastic. So, you'd need an easily dismissed franchise taken up by some brilliant young auteur who, against all wisdom, threw the full weight of his talent at this ridiculous project, and stuck with it for years, seeing it develop. I guess you could say that Disney is trying that with Star Wars, seeing as Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow are doing Star Wars films, but they're doing one each, rather than the franchise becoming their baby. On top of that, no matter how ridiculous the films, you'd need to be completely sincere in your work. Yeah, there's not really a formula here.
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Uh the formula is pretty obviously spelled out in the series as N2O
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I like the implication of 'Cuban Nos' being that Cuba has a different periodic table.
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So, saw this last night and not seen any of the others. Thread title is accurate, you could play a drinking game to that word. Movie was pretty good at what it was and I didn't really get bored. Completely retarded of course, but I enjoyed it. Random thoughts: Hacker chick and deputy spyman were terrible. Vin diesel is awesome. I love watching the rock kick and throw people. Jason Statham is Jason Statham. I'd probably still have sex with Helen Mirren. Trackers still make unnecessary beeping noises. I would let Charlize Theron boss me around any day. Cars go vroom. henpod fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 11:30
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Snowman_McK posted:I like the implication of 'Cuban Nos' being that Cuba has a different periodic table. If there can be different kinds of sodium chloride I guess there can be different kinds of nitrous oxide.
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Apr 20, 2017 12:28
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Regular nos is for quarter mile, Cuban nos for Cuban mile
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WhyteRyce posted:Regular nos is for quarter mile, Cuban nos for Cuban mile aren't cubanos cigars? fake edit: for smoking people
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Apr 20, 2017 19:04
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Next movie they gotta upgrade to hydrazine
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https://twitter.com/jenyamato/status/855117414010281984
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All the more reason to bring Han back.  Gisele can come back too, if she's not too busy being Wonder Woman.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:50
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Asian markets hate Jason Statham, always killing Han or fighting Jet Li
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superh posted:All the more reason to bring Han back. Don't worry, after Justice League I'm sure get schedule is gonna clear off real quick as far as that goes.
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Ravel posted:The success of this franchise has been so bizarre. I wonder if any other franchise could replicate it. Jurassic Park and Pirates of the Caribbean could replicate the FF success (Pirates is probably neutered somewhat because of Johnny Depp getting people's nerves even before the domestic abuse came up). All three movies had initial releases that had a massive impact on pop culture, and the nostalgia attached to those movies will bring in a large audience no matter what. Of the movies that came out in the last 20 years, the first Fast and the Furious is probably only topped by The Matrix in terms of having a sustained impact on pop culture around the globe.
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TyrantWD posted:Jurassic Park and Pirates of the Caribbean could replicate the FF success (Pirates is probably neutered somewhat because of Johnny Depp getting people's nerves even before the domestic abuse came up). All three movies had initial releases that had a massive impact on pop culture, and the nostalgia attached to those movies will bring in a large audience no matter what. Of the movies that came out in the last 20 years, the first Fast and the Furious is probably only topped by The Matrix in terms of having a sustained impact on pop culture around the globe. Harry Potter would probably like a word.
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:Harry Potter would probably like a word. The books were the phenomenon, the movies just cashed in on that.
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Blair Witch was a pretty big one.
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Pirates can mirror F&F in that the second and third movies weren't as good as the first, the third one was really kind of stupid, and the forth one was utterly forgettable.
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It's happening y'allquote:EXCLUSIVE: Universal is huddling on a spinoff that will focus on the characters originated by Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statham and most recently seen in The Fate Of The Furious, sources said. The franchise architects have said they might broaden the universe with spinoffs, and source said this is the one they are pursuing. This is in early stages, but they’ve met on the concept, which sources said will be scripted by Chris Morgan, the chief writer of the series that is hitting new heights with the eighth installment. The idea is for Johnson’s US Diplomatic Security Agent Luke Hobbs to form an unlikely alliance with Statham’s Decker Shaw, for a movie that could conceivably be made while they are figuring the next Fast film. Johnson stepped into the franchise in Fast Five, and Statham established his in Fast & Furious 6. Each began as an antagonist to the core street racing family, but grudgingly earned their way into the circle of trust. There’s not much more to say right now; Morgan hasn’t begun writing, but they are talking. Johnson and Statham certainly showed good chemistry in the new film, which going into its second weekend has grossed $685 million worldwide. The two-hander spinoff seems a clever way to extend a franchise which has shown little signs of running out of gas. http://deadline.com/2017/04/dwayne-johnson-jason-statham-fate-of-the-furious-spinoff-universal-pictures-1202073677/
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TyrantWD posted:Of the movies that came out in the last 20 years, the first Fast and the Furious is probably only topped by The Matrix in terms of having a sustained impact on pop culture around the globe. Nah definitely not. F&F is massively successful but it's hardly a pop culture mainstay. Compared to poo poo like Lord of the Rings and Marvel it's a financial success but that's about it.
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Apr 21, 2017 19:02
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Basically there arent enough toys, games and expanded universe books.
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Steve2911 posted:Nah definitely not. F&F is massively successful but it's hardly a pop culture mainstay. Compared to poo poo like Lord of the Rings and Marvel it's a financial success but that's about it. Well, Marvel is ongoing and knocks out about two movies a year to stay relevant, and I've not heard anyone bring up Lord of the Rings in quite some time. I have no idea what you're using as a metric for pop culture mainstay that Lord of the Rings hits that Fast and the Furious doesn't.
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Depends on how popular we're talking but Lord of the Rings will continue to sell books long after people have completely forgotten about F&F. Never mind all the other tie-ins or adaptations or merch it will continue to produce.
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Lobok posted:Depends on how popular we're talking but Lord of the Rings will continue to sell books long after people have completely forgotten about F&F. Never mind all the other tie-ins or adaptations or merch it will continue to produce. You can buy a Dom's Ice Charger car for Rocket League; there is no LOTR DLC for it. #MicDrop
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Snowman_McK posted:Well, Marvel is ongoing and knocks out about two movies a year to stay relevant, and I've not heard anyone bring up Lord of the Rings in quite some time. I have no idea what you're using as a metric for pop culture mainstay that Lord of the Rings hits that Fast and the Furious doesn't. You said in the last 20 years. F&F is ongoing right now. If you're using 'what is popular today' as your metric then what's the point of looking backwards?
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Man I always thought the "F&F goes to space" jokes were unreasonable but they're becoming more and more likely each time a film is released. I'd also accept a time travel plot that reveals Cipher's dad sabotaged Dom's dad.
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well why not posted:Man I always thought the "F&F goes to space" jokes were unreasonable but they're becoming more and more likely each time a film is released. That racer who killed Dom's dad and who he beat with a wrench? Dom.
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Dom's crew vs Danny Ocean's crew should be the final movie and by them it should have the entirety of Hollywood on both sides.
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Steve2911 posted:You said in the last 20 years. F&F is ongoing right now. If you're using 'what is popular today' as your metric then what's the point of looking backwards? I'm not. I didn't bring up Marvel or Lord of the Rings.
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