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Kelp Me! posted:Who's the lawful evil one? That's not Lilith quote:Dr. Melinda "Mel" Karnofsky Crane (Jane Adams) is Maris Crane's plastic surgeon, and for a period, Niles Crane's girlfriend and (briefly) wife. She is fussy, neurotic, and fastidious, much like Niles. Similarly, she's the sort of manipulative, controlling female Niles is attracted to (e.g., Maris). It is heavily implied in her first appearance that she is much older than she appears, probably due to her profession. Mel also has one son, and it is specifically stated she is divorced. It is hinted at that she had her son at a very young age. When Daphne becomes engaged to Donny, Niles and Mel impulsively elope. After Niles runs off with Daphne on the day of her intended wedding to Donny, Mel is humiliated and bitter. She pays Niles back by refusing to grant an immediate divorce; instead, she forces Niles to play along that the two remain happily married, assuring him that after he has done this on several select social occasions she will file for divorce. It quickly becomes apparent that she is deliberately prolonging the process while ensuring the maximum public humiliation for Niles. At a social event held by Frasier, Mel finally pushes Niles to the limit; Niles publicly disowns "this sham of a marriage", and the two are quickly divorced. Mel is humiliated and does not appear again.
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sexy mouse posted:nah anything involving goth freddy was... i can't remember if that was more than one episode or not Cosmik Slop posted:There was the one where Frasier gets reamed by Teen Scene or any scene with Kirby in. the teen scene host was good in that ep though.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:05
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what if Maris was even hotter than Roz?
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Lilith awakened my inner Freud on Cheers, especially when they got her all dolled up.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:01
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Mel was the best.
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I don't even remember her TBH which just tells me I need to watch more Frasier there's a really twee TV station here (Cosi?) that plays 4 episodes straight every night which is p cool, the downside is they play an ad for Shriner's Children Hospital literally every commercial break, so I get to hear a kid with no arms tell me how he can write his name with his feet 4 times an hour, it's soul-crushing in a Melissa Etheridge ASPCA commercial kind of way On the plus side after Frasier they do an hour of the A-Team which is great if I'm really blazed
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luncheon meat posted:what if Maris was even hotter than Roz? With her fetching little under bite and her blousing spandex? Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Mel was the best. She really was until Niles left her for Daphne. then she was a little spiteful, but I think was justified in her anger abut the situation. The writers really didn't do a good job of making the audience think she wasn't right for Niles. All the other characters hated her and the most we see her doing is telling Niles he should run for Cork Master or being able to get into better places than Frasier or being slightly condescending to someone (but no worse than they are to every other non-starring character). Also she appreciated Niles more and would have made him a better person. And her mother probably wouldn't have ruined every scene she was in for seasons upon seasons.
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lemon-lyme disease posted:I KNOW, I KNOW! Sadly. This episode is harsh, partially bc it was incredibly sad and made the episode hard to rewatch and partially bc Brendan Fraser being gone forever sucks bad
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Apr 19, 2017 17:32
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Solice Kirsk posted:With her fetching little under bite and her blousing spandex? i always thought them being snubbed at restaurants was silly; most restaurants aren't really that hard to get into, you just have to make reservations kinda far in advance. Especially Seattle in the 90's - sure it's a nice city but it's not exactly Manhattan.
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Calaveron posted:Why are they always so mean to Lilith if she's nothing but cordial and polite to everybody I mean yeah she's cold and was kinda rude once or twice but that was only in response to the Crane boys attacking her first u have to know Cheers thru line to truly understand
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Apr 19, 2017 18:15
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maskenfreiheit posted:Frasier seems to love slutshamimg Roz simpler times and yes
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maskenfreiheit posted:just watched a solid 10 minutes of niles and daphne talking about sex and rubbing themselves with ice cubes, west wing has nothing on frasier ah yes things certainly got hot @ the montana that summer
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Solice Kirsk posted:I like the episode where Frasier and Niles are hoping they are related to the Russian royal family, but then it turns out their great-grandmother was a literal thieving whore. theres a back aching for the lash!
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Kelp Me! posted:Who's the lawful evil one? That's not Lilith frasier's agent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uk49C5Re2k e: my bad, looked at the wrong side
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Apr 19, 2017 18:22
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What alignment are the jpeg artifacts?
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Apr 19, 2017 18:34
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the ep where frasuer suck a dick
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Apr 19, 2017 18:36
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gently caress da Mods posted:theres a back aching for the lash! I actually say this sometimes. I also every now and then do the overly hammy "Fine! Fiiiiiiiiiine!" that Frasier did the episode when he got punched in the face by Maris' murdered husband. Frasier has wormed it's way into my parlance and will never truly be gone.
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Apr 19, 2017 18:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLG0F7suqSI
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Apr 19, 2017 18:52
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all the christmas episodes were good too. favorite is the one where they have to pretend to be jewish but it all comes crashing down when the people they're trying to fool discover niles hiding in the bathroom dressed as jesus also when they make the wine jewish by adding a bunch of sugar to it
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Solice Kirsk posted:" Anytime Frasier roars "GET OUT!" is great, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25fauJh53Ro
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Timby posted:Anytime Frasier roars "GET OUT!" is great, too. And all it took was the pretty lady making fun of his froofy monogrammed towels
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Calaveron posted:And all it took was the pretty lady making fun of his froofy monogrammed towels aight so u say he slutshamed ross and now ur saying hes insecure u got beef w frasier bitch?
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gently caress da Mods posted:aight so u say he slutshamed ross I wasn't the froofy monogrammed towel who said The Frajer slutshamed Roz dog
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Apr 19, 2017 23:51
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I like the one where niles sinks it from half court
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Apr 20, 2017 00:07
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I like the episode where Roz says literally anything with her dusky voice
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Apr 20, 2017 04:05
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Roz is pretty good but these days I'm appreciating Jackie from Roseanne more and more.
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Apr 20, 2017 04:08
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Something I've always wondered was, was roz supposed to be hot?
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Iike Carolines friend from caroline in the city, you know she's meant to be attractive. Even if you the viewer doesn't find her attractive, you understand that people in the fictional universe of caroline in the city do. They never really established that in fraiser with roz, imo. Despite her hitting the rest of the floozy friend archetype
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Something I've always wondered was, was roz supposed to be hot? She was supposed to be obtainable. Also hot. 
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midwestern milk maid
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Bangin titties
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Iike Carolines friend from caroline in the city, you know she's meant to be attractive. Even if you the viewer doesn't find her attractive, you understand that people in the fictional universe of caroline in the city do. They never really established that in fraiser with roz, imo. Despite her hitting the rest of the floozy friend archetype I remember that show but I don't remember that friend.
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Solice Kirsk posted:She was supposed to be obtainable. Also hot. I like the fact that she always dressed somewhat conservatively, didn't have huge knockers on display (despite this one scene) and wasn't a dumb bottle-blonde. she avoided all the lazy stereotypes of a 'attractive, sexually active woman'
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sassassin posted:I remember that show but I don't remember that friend.  The one that's not Lea Thompson or a guy.
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the hottest women were on Golden Girls
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THEY WERE ON A BREAK
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ElGroucho posted:I like the episode where Roz says literally anything with her dusky voice "How long was I out?" "Fifteen seconds, big boy". I was like goddamn, I was not prepared for that line Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Mel was the best. Mel was great. I hated how they had to make her a complete psycho just so the audience would feel OK about Niles leaving her, and how Niles and Daphne became blander characters just so their relationship would make any kind of sense.
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I like how they adapted Daphne's actress's pregnancy into Daphne getting super fat from a lurking feeling of inadequacy re her relationship with Niles
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Much better than just hiding her behind increasingly ridiculous overcoats, loose clothes and props like literally any other sitcom with actresses who got pregnant midway through a season
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