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jBrereton posted:It doesn't sound authentic from an old, anti-American, academic British guy. Yeah you definitely need to be a billionaire for it to work
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It's not surprising Labour's doing so badly in the polls, when you think about it. New Labour was massively successful from 1997 onwards but that all came crashing to an end with the 2008 financial crisis. After that Labour dithered around timidly and indecisively for 7 years, aware that the world had changed but unable to articulate a coherent response to it. Since 2015, of course, Labour's been bitterly fighting among itself and hasn't even been able to present a united front, let alone articulate radical new policies. Amazing there's anyone left voting for them at all, really.
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Hmm less than seven weeks to go until we find out if Jabby is right that Corbyn is, in fact, not a clown.
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jBrereton posted:It doesn't sound authentic from an old, anti-American, academic British guy. Trump is older than Corbyn, and is a billionaire businessman. It seems like you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's not surprising Labour's doing so badly in the polls, when you think about it. End of New Labour was some hanging around with the fonz and weeping about Jade Goody bollocks but there was a good policy base there.
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jabby posted:Trump is older than Corbyn, and is a billionaire businessman. It seems like you're just complaining for the sake of complaining. I'm complaining because labour is heading for its worst election result since world war 2 and you think it's a good thing.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:01
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Corbyn is not an academic in any sense
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Pissflaps posted:I'm complaining because labour is heading for its worst election result since world war 2 and you think it's a good thing. What made you think I was talking to you? If you ever go five minutes without complaining about Corbyn it's gonna be grounds for a police welfare check.
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jabby posted:What made you think I was talking to you? If you ever go five minutes without complaining about Corbyn it's gonna be grounds for a police welfare check. It's a public forum chief if you want private messaging hit the PM button.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:06
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jabby posted:Trump is older than Corbyn, and is a billionaire businessman. It seems like you're just complaining for the sake of complaining. Someone has told Jer' to say "rigged" because people think that he can Be Trumpy and that's the path to success, which is weird.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:07
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Hang on we don't have to wait seven weeks do we. There's an election in two weeks and we'll find out then if the polls are all wrong.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:09
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Baron Corbyn posted:Corbyn is not an academic in any sense
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jBrereton posted:The only time a "rigged system" should be brought up in UK politics is if the candidates are holding a debate on the Cutty Sark. Otherwise it sounds like something you've chored off an American, which it is. Eh, "rig (n.) "a trick, swindle, scheme" (1775), earlier "sport, banter, ridicule" (1725), of unknown origin." source So that would be a pre-Independence American AKA British colonist then?
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Apr 20, 2017 19:10
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Capitalism is rigged and I think jez is right about it.
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EmptyVessel posted:Eh, "rig (n.) "a trick, swindle, scheme" (1775), earlier "sport, banter, ridicule" (1725), of unknown origin." Jesus.
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Pissflaps posted:Jesus. Yes, my child?
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Apr 20, 2017 19:13
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jBrereton posted:Someone has told Jer' to say "rigged" because people think that he can Be Trumpy and that's the path to success, which is weird. This is just a bizarre view of things
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J_RBG posted:This is just a bizarre view of things Someone has thought "why don't we transpose the insurgent campaign methology of Trump onto Jer' to mobilise the vote of hacked off working class people, which UKIP has for now" without considering how completely different those people are and thus why it wouldn't work.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:23
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Pissflaps posted:Labour confirming that they're a hard Brexit party is not good news. I hate to say it but I agree with 'flaps here.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Pissflaps posted:Labour confirming that they're a hard Brexit party is not good news. That's odd, because the blog says one thing, but Labour's statement says they are for full market access, which sounds like soft Brexit. Hmm, who do we believe? A Labour statement or a pro Tory blog? Tricky...
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jBrereton posted:Feel free to educate me on where I'm going wrong here because that is how it looks to me. Whether that's the thinking or not I still think he's right about it.
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blowfish posted:I hate to say it but I agree with 'flaps here. They aren't a hard Brexit party though, they want to keep market access and worker protections so they're lining up for soft Brexit.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:31
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Dave Anderson, the current shadow Scotland and NI secretary, is not seeking reelection
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jBrereton posted:It doesn't sound authentic from an old, anti-American, academic British guy. Of all the stupid poo poo that people have gone on about in UKMT over the years, this stands out as really stupid.
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forkboy84 posted:Of all the stupid poo poo that people have gone on about in UKMT over the years, this stands out as really stupid. Yeah that's right up there with "Tory-labour coalition is more likely than tory-libdem". Jesus.
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OzyMandrill posted:That's odd, because the blog says one thing, but Labour's statement says they are for full market access, which sounds like soft Brexit. Hmm, who do we believe? A Labour statement or a pro Tory blog? Tricky... Check this out: Every county in the world has 'full market access' except Russia and North Korea. It's an utterly, utterly meaningless statement. Edit: probably Syria too. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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OwlFancier posted:Whether that's the thinking or not I still think he's right about it.
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Also the Tories continue to play for time in Northern Ireland, the emergency legislation to set the regional rate to facilitate local rates collections has a clause tacked on to extend the timeframe granted by the St Andrews agreement for the appointment of a first minister - meaning Brokenshire gets to fob off making a decision about another election for some time. Now saying the early may deadline has been scrapped and another new deadline of the end of June has been introduced. So its another two months of vague limbo
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jBrereton posted:I don't disagree with the idea that things are stacked against workers. I just think that "rigged" is odd terminology for Corbyn and Labour to use. Same as "a hand up not a hand out" was for Blair. Doesn't chime with how most Brits talk. loving man-in-the-pub level analysis
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Apr 20, 2017 19:57
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Does anyone have a picture of Jeremy Corbyn in a train toilet?
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That is a very specific fetish.
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Pissflaps posted:Does anyone have a picture of Jeremy Corbyn in a train toilet?  (the DAILY MIRROR is responsible for this image, full credits to their 'tog')
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jBrereton posted:I don't disagree with the idea that things are stacked against workers. I just think that "rigged" is odd terminology for Corbyn and Labour to use. Same as "a hand up not a hand out" was for Blair. Doesn't chime with how most Brits talk. Most brits speak enough stupid regional dialects that I don't think there's any sort of reasonable standard for how most of them talk. Sounds fine to me, the game's rigged.
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Not sure if how British it is or not but it sounds weak as piss.
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Pissflaps posted:It's a public forum chief if you want private messaging hit the PM button. I've seen the quality of ur pms mate. You don't even have a sig.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:27
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"It's rigged" is perfectly normal speech. You're clutching at straws to defend the tories.
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I know you guys like to criticise Corbyn over really inane stuff but saying a perfectly common english idiom is "unbritish" is way too much.
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Apparently journos are pleased with Corb's speech and the fact he took questions afterwards. Could be worse.
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Inane stuff like 'heading for the worst election result in living memory' you mean?
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