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Amy Pole Her posted:Landry at 15 per just doesn't feel right I had only read 12. Is there some actual validity to 15? I heard up to 12 for Stills and we got him for 8. I would agree 15 mil is too much.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Landry at 15 per just doesn't feel right 10-12 is probably the right range for him.
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Apr 14, 2017 23:51
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With the offer to Gillislee the Pats are putting the Bills between the devil and the deep blue sea. Either we lose an asset that will immediately be turned around and used against us Or Overpay for a good but not great player. The only way we can come out ahead is if we draft a probowler with the 5th they would have to give us.... Hahahaha
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Apr 18, 2017 19:07
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pasaluki posted:With the offer to Gillislee the Pats are putting the Bills between the devil and the deep blue sea. Like Charles Clay except this time the team doing the screwing over actually knows what they're doing. and won't end up in cap hell for a mediocre player.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:10
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It's seriously strange seeing guys like Hogan Clay and Gillislee be so highly coveted
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Apr 18, 2017 20:06
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Amy Pole Her posted:It's seriously strange seeing guys like Hogan Clay and Gillislee be so highly coveted Hogan worked out great for the Patriots. I mean, not like a superstar or anything, but Brady's deep ball immediately re-appeared out of loving nowhere when Hogan was on the receiving end of them. And Hogan led the league in yards per reception.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:37
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I wonder if those guys are highly coveted by the rest of the league or just by teams in the AFC East. Also it's weird how guys that switch between AFC East teams never seem to pan out unless they go to the Patriots.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:07
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MalarkeyToboggan posted:I wonder if those guys are highly coveted by the rest of the league or just by teams in the AFC East. going to a non-patriots afc east team never seems to work out for anyone
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Apr 18, 2017 21:10
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Define "work out"? Because plenty of free agents have done well in the rest of the AFC East (Pro Bowls, All Pros,etc). Obviously they're not winning playoff games but that speaks more to the mismanagement of the coaches and FO's than anything else.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:12
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going to the AFC:E has worked out well for Suh's pocketbook, if nothing else
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Apr 18, 2017 21:14
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Incognito has been pretty good for the Bills.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:15
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evilweasel posted:going to a non-patriots afc east team never seems to work out for anyone in a totally unrelated thing, isn't it odd how all those people who applied to Harvard but wound up at University of Phoenix just don't seem to be doing as well in their lives? I wonder why
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Apr 18, 2017 21:21
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Define "work out"? Because plenty of free agents have done well in the rest of the AFC East (Pro Bowls, All Pros,etc). Obviously they're not winning playoff games but that speaks more to the mismanagement of the coaches and FO's than anything else. I meant more players that go from one AFC East team to another. I can't really think of anyone that had those types of Pro Bowl, All Pro seasons unless they go to the Pats like Welker. With the amount of AFC East incest I'm sure there have been but I can't think of any. Charles Clay has had 2 decent seasons with the Bills but with the money they're paying him even that is a bit underwhelming. E: Yeah Incognito has been very good for the Bills, forgot about him.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:21
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Brandon Marshall did very well in NY overall. Mario Williams had a good first year in Buffalo and made second team All Pro. Thomas Jones had a few good seasons for the Jets. Alan Faneca was good on the Jets. Kris Jenkins was great on the Jets until his knee blew up. Joey Porter on the Dolphins.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:45
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Not all of those are the product of AFCe incest though. Curtis Martin obviously Damien Woody Ty Law made a Pro Bowl with the Jets I honestly can't think of too many that we signed from the Bills or Dolphins though. JAY FIEDLER. Jason Taylor was an abortion. I guess Fitzpatrick counts and had a good year. Diva Cupcake fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Brandon Marshall did very well in NY overall. None of those guys came from other AFC East teams though. I'm talking specifically about guys like Charles Clay, Chris Hogan, Baccari Rambo, Scott Chandler, Percy Harvin and now Gillislee of the top of my head. I wonder if AFC East teams overvalue players they face twice a year more than other divisions. I guess you could call Chad Penningtons two seasons with the Dolphins kinda successful.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:56
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Yeah I know, I was responding to evilweasel's post that going to non-Pats AFC:E teams never works out for anyone. I don't know how much more pronounced the AFC East incest thing is versus other divisions.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Yeah I know, I was responding to evilweasel's post that going to non-Pats AFC:E teams never works out for anyone. Rodney Hudson is great! Thanks, Chiefs!
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Apr 18, 2017 22:20
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Suh is still playing at an elite level
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Apr 18, 2017 22:23
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Yeah I know, I was responding to evilweasel's post that going to non-Pats AFC:E teams never works out for anyone. I'd actually like to see a study that tracked it around the league, because I mean we can all immediately think of Brett Favre in purple or Donovan McNabb / DeSearn Jackson in Washington, but nobody is really tracking whatever random roster filler is doing as they move around the league.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:26
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Forever_Peace posted:Yeah this. fsif knew what was up a month ago. Pleased as punch, I like Gillislee.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:37
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I assume this means Blount will be moving on, which pleases me greatly.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:29
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Mike Gillislee was actually drafted by the Dolphins in the 5th-round a few years back. If the Bills don't match the Patriots's offer, then he'll only have a team to go to complete the cycle.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:58
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https://twitter.com/NESN/status/854439402193522690 Now let's see if the Saints will pony up for him.
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James White extended for 3 more years https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/854469267600920576
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:Mike Gillislee was actually drafted by the Dolphins in the 5th-round a few years back. If the Bills don't match the Patriots's offer, then he'll only have a team to go to complete the cycle. And much like Hogan he wasn't good enough to play for Joe Philbin. Hogan thing was worse though, since our best WR at the time was Brian Hartline.
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Holy poo poo I didn't realize Chris Hogan was already 29.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Holy poo poo I didn't realize Chris Hogan was already 29. Makes sense. He was on our season of hard knocks like five and a half years ago
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TheBizzness posted:Incognito has been pretty good for the Bills. This is the best example of non-Pats AFCE incest working. Incognito was a very good player in Miami and still is one of the best guards in football.
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I'd be a bit surprised if the Bills don't match on Gillislee, but who knows with this team.
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fsif posted:I'd be a bit surprised if the Bills don't match on Gillislee, but who knows with this team. Either way Whaley is a loving idiot for having that tender on him to begin with. If NE has to pay a 2nd rounder for him, they never pursue him. He is definitely worth a 5th round pick easily and hasn't even hit his prime. The Patriots exposed them big time. No matter what the Bills get hurt. Either by massively overpaying for a backup running back when the team has other glaring holes (one of which is they took our loving CB) or we lose our 2nd best running back on a running team. Unless we get some seriously badass players in the draft the Patriots are going to beat us to death with our own players.
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No Butt Stuff posted:To recap, the Pats basically traded Butler for Cooks, right? Saints also got a third.
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No Butt Stuff posted:To recap, the Pats basically traded Butler for Cooks, right? He has only signed his tender, he hasn't been traded yet.
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FWIW my coworker's niece is Gillislee's girlfriend and she said that he already signed a 4 year 16 million contract last week even though his agent wanted him to hold out for more offers. I'm kinda curious how accurate this information is. Didn't have guaranteed numbers but said she will ask about it tonight. Also that they are house shopping in buffalo now.
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Ralker posted:FWIW my coworker's niece is Gillislee's girlfriend and she said that he already signed a 4 year 16 million contract last week even though his agent wanted him to hold out for more offers. I'm kinda curious how accurate this information is. Didn't have guaranteed numbers but said she will ask about it tonight. Also that they are house shopping in buffalo now. Let me tell you about the NFL transaction wire ...
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GaussianCopula posted:Let me tell you about the NFL transaction wire ... Ok, update from my exclusive source: Gillislee signed with New England yesterday, didn't have contract info, so we shall see.
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Ralker posted:Ok, update from my exclusive source: Gillislee signed with New England yesterday, didn't have contract info, so we shall see. Yes he signed an offer sheet, which was wildly reported. He can't sign an actual contact until Monday because the Bills have until then to decide. Your source is full of poo poo.
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GaussianCopula posted:Yes he signed an offer sheet, which was wildly reported. He can't sign an actual contact until Monday because the Bills have until then to decide. Your source is full of poo poo. Or she doesn't know the ins and outs of NFL contracts which I don't blame her for.
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