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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I don't think a guy caught for illegal equipment should be kept in the game.

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Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
agreed they should have banned jagr for life for cheating

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNOtoJ8vb0&t=110s

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

YOU COULD HAVE HAD MARC STAAL!!!

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Matt Zerella posted:

YOU COULD HAVE HAD MARC STAAL!!!

Hey Marc Staal is better than drafting Brian Lee

Again Staal used to be pretty good until everything broke and he became a pirate

Duck Rodgers
Oct 9, 2012
Well they could have had Gilbert Brule.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/855155972339322882

Everybody's getting fired in Buffalo!

techno allah
Sep 29, 2005

What a great day. I was never a Murray fan. I didn't agree with his blatant tanking strategy, especially trading away all those goalies that we could have used instead of trading a 1st for Lehner. Drafting Nylander instead of Chychrun, Sergachev or McAvoy is looking like a terrible move. The defense is just awful. Then he does nothing at the trade deadline. Good riddance

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
DO THE THERRIEN, BUFFALO

Do it.

I dare you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TphEh0Qgv0

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



Buffalo_Fire_Sale.aav ?

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Martytoof posted:

DO THE THERRIEN, BUFFALO

Do it.

I dare you.

The Monkey's Paw finger curls, as Therrien leads the Buffalo Sabres to 3 cups in 5 years, knocking out the Habs in the ECF each time.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/855159875411771392

:eyepop:

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
hah, gently caress Wideman

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Buffalo should work out some way to get contracted and expanded-to in the same year. They could really use an expansion draft to shore up that roster.

iospace posted:

The Monkey's Paw finger curls, as Therrien leads the Buffalo Sabres to 3 cups in 5 years, knocking out the Habs in the ECF each time.

Then we all wake up and realize we drifted off during another Pens stanley cup parade broadcast on NBC.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Henderson had to retire because of that hit, so his claim for lost wages is pretty legit given how much officials make. Also, "getting decked by a player" is likely well beyond reasonable danger associated with his job.



Also gently caress the Flames and gently caress Wideman.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Oh my god what the gently caress is going on in Buffalo

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

https://twitter.com/CTVchrisepp/status/855160528360099840

Jesus, I knew Wideman ended his career, but I just assumed it was post-concussion symptoms.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I almost hope that the Flames fight this tooth and nail so they can continue to be hosed by the officials for the next 10 years.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/855168669458083845

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
People who think the Sabre's roster is really that bad don't understand how awful everyone immediately looked under Bylsma. He really, really, really needed to go.

That being said, gently caress Dan Bylsma.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

grack posted:

I almost hope that the Flames fight this tooth and nail so they can continue to be hosed by the officials for the next 10 years.

Also Nenshi continuing to not want to give them a new arena.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



I think the lawsuit against Wideman is bullshit because it seemed pretty clear he was out of sorts from getting his bell rung and didn't intentionally try to hurt Henderson.

I know we had this argument last year about intent and many people disagreed but I'm really still kind of shocked that people are in favor of him being sued for $10 million. That's horseshit. Henderson deserves something but there has to be some sort of insurance that covers these types of accidents on the ice, right?

Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Apr 20, 2017

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Well then good thing it's going in front of a judge who doesn't have the biases of the NHL DOPS to decide if a concussion is a defense against assault.

(It's not.)

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Mind_Taker posted:

I think the lawsuit against Wideman is bullshit because it seemed pretty clear he was out of sorts from getting his bell rung and didn't intentionally try to hurt Henderson.

I know we had this argument last year about intent and many people disagreed but I'm really still kind of shocked that people are in favor of him being sued for $10 million. That's horseshit. Henderson deserves something but there has to be some sort of insurance that covers these types of accidents on the ice, right?

I don't think Wideman meant to hurt him but he did mean to just fling him out of the way recklessly so he could get off the ice. If I'm bleeding from a wound and I drop kick an old lady who is in my way as I try to get into the hospital I should probably still be liable for damages caused to the old lady even though I'm in distress and not thinking clearly.

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

Mind_Taker posted:

I think the lawsuit against Wideman is bullshit because it seemed pretty clear he was out of sorts from getting his bell rung and didn't intentionally try to hurt Henderson.

I know we had this argument last year about intent and many people disagreed but I'm really still kind of shocked that people are in favor of him being sued for $10 million. That's horseshit. Henderson deserves something but there has to be some sort of insurance that covers these types of accidents on the ice, right?

Well he clearly attacked him purposely so it's understandable that people would believe Wideman attacked him purposely.

And no, insurance doesn't cover "accidents" that are factually decking someone from behind on purpose.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Also another Canucks d-man has gone to Russia:
https://twitter.com/khl_eng/status/855035088148549632

Larsen sucks so it's no big loss, but the timing with Tryamkin also gone is funny. They should pick up a good Canadian boy like Kris Russell. He'll never abandon them for Russia!

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Larsen was never going to get re-signed, so it's not a loss at all.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



I think there is a case to be made for him not doing anything purposefully at all, especially if he didn't see him until the last second (which I can believe, given that his head was just slammed into the boards like 5-10 seconds earlier). I really think he instinctively raised his arms at the last second to protect himself rather than trying to make contact with him and the video really makes it hard for me to believe the alternative that he set out to deck the guy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Also Henderson had a rare earth magnet in his pocket that was coincidentally the opposite polarity to the one Wideman was also carrying, which explains the violent launch.

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

Maybe Henderson shouldn't have worn the zebra stripes

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Aurora posted:

Maybe Henderson shouldn't have worn the zebra stripes

Wideman was clearly delusional and thought that he was a lion.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I don't think Wideman has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the suit but he does have enough to present a "my head was scrambled eggs" defense.

But he still won't win, he skated just fine for 60 feet, then blacked out and hit a ref? Yeah not gonna cut it.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Mind_Taker posted:

I think there is a case to be made for him not doing anything purposefully at all, especially if he didn't see him until the last second (which I can believe, given that his head was just slammed into the boards like 5-10 seconds earlier). I really think he instinctively raised his arms at the last second to protect himself rather than trying to make contact with him and the video really makes it hard for me to believe the alternative that he set out to deck the guy.

I don't believe for a second it was accidental. He skated with purpose right at Henderson, the only way I'd believe it was an accident is if somebody can prove to me that the hit Wideman took hosed him up so bad that he thought the ref was the guy who hit him. He pauses right before he decks him, too. I'm a Flames fan and I have no need or desire to defend Wideman whatsoever.

For those unfamiliar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj4PoDrqv-E

Does that look accidental to you?

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Apr 21, 2017

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

FOX Sports Ohio reports Zach Werenski has apparently earned the right to finish 3rd to Auston Matthews and Patrik Laine in the Calder race.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Mind Taker has recently suffered a severe concussion and is demonstrating the impairment of rational decision making that can occur.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Yeah. Every time I've seen that video I see anger or frustration, not disorientation. He skated toward his bench with his head up the whole way and, when the play continues to draw the linesman toward him, Wideman just throws a crosscheck into his upper back and continues right through the bench door and sits down. There's no stumbling, there's no losing his direction, his balance seems perfect. After they stop play and you see his face on the bench he seems like he's in pain but he's talking fine to his teammates and his eyes look clear. I think it was pure frustration and he very much intended to hit the linesman in that moment when their paths crossed. If it had worked out that the play went the other way I don't think Wideman chases him or anything, but he's the angry guy walking down the sidewalk kicking stuff that gets in his path.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
As if the Flames needed another reason to not re-sign Wideman. Lord.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


i cant watch that and think it was not purposeful, or think hotbrains is a good enough excuse for what he did.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



I guess I just don't see intent or anger. The thing that gets me is the way he sidesteps as contact is made. If he really wanted to deck him I feel like it would have looked a lot different. It looks like he is trying to avoid him with his body but his arms go up.

And gently caress I don't like the dude. I still hate him for his lazy as poo poo play in 3OT against the Rangers in 2012.

This isn't the hill I want to die on so I'll drop it.

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Gio
Jun 20, 2005


im not gonna goon out and act like youre an idiot bc you disagree, its cool.

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