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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
It's more complicated than that though because means of ingestion matters. SDS is a good example. Harmless in solution but nasty if inhaled. The dose and the vector make the poison.

Fluoride and monofluorophosphate ions may have a place in dental hygiene but a) why is it being ingested? b) what does that have to do with industrial waste,especially as other contaminants are concerned?

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Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Shbobdb posted:

It's more complicated than that though because means of ingestion matters. SDS is a good example. Harmless in solution but nasty if inhaled. The dose and the vector make the poison.

Fluoride and monofluorophosphate ions may have a place in dental hygiene but a) why is it being ingested? b) what does that have to do with industrial waste,especially as other contaminants are concerned?

Have you tried not believing in homeopathy? Try disbelieving in small doses though, I hear that works better.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I'm always educating people about science and people keep rejecting the truth based on a personal animus. It's pretty dumb.

Evidently I'm worse than ALCOA on a leftist hugbox.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I always enjoy the odd strango snared by this thread.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Shbobdb posted:

I'm always educating people about science and people keep rejecting the truth based on a personal animus. It's pretty dumb.

Evidently I'm worse than ALCOA on a leftist hugbox.

Look, I know it's tough to understand that water that was once part of Hitler's testicle is no longer tainted, but it's okay, we'll get through this. On the bright side, you probably think that drinking trace quantities of industrial runoff makes you immune to industrial accidents. It does handily explain the decrease in injuries and deaths among industrial workers over the years, right?

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
If you are going to go for character assassination in lieu of content, at least criticize me based on my actual character as opposed to what you imagine my character to be.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Shbobdb posted:

If you are going to go for character assassination in lieu of content, at least criticize me based on my actual character as opposed to what you imagine my character to be.

Your actual character is that you are a homeopath. Or perhaps a reverse homeopath, where the sins of water molecules past infect those of the future.

But it's okay! You're among people who can teach you science and that water doesn't actually have a memory. Just relax and crack open a chemistry textbook. Everything will be fine.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Shbobdb posted:

Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true.

Sound advice to live by. If only you would practice what you preach.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Keep posting that white noise and call it a victory. Do for it, it's all you've got.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Dirk the Average posted:

Your actual character is that you are a homeopath. Or perhaps a reverse homeopath, where the sins of water molecules past infect those of the future.

But it's okay! You're among people who can teach you science and that water doesn't actually have a memory. Just relax and crack open a chemistry textbook. Everything will be fine.

His actual character is that he's a gimmick poster and gets off on people engaging with his gimmick. You're seeking an actual good-faith conversation but will not get one.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Every drink you take contains molecules that someone peed out of their peehole at some point.

You're drinking sewage, medical biohazard, wake up sheeple!

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

VitalSigns posted:

Every drink you take contains molecules that someone peed out of their peehole at some point.

You're drinking sewage, medical biohazard, wake up sheeple!

It's funny because pharmaceuticals in drinking water are an emerging problem.

But I'm sure homeopathic wackos like WHO and EPA aren't worth listening to.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Wait is the WHO worth listening to or not.

Because I'm looking at their standards on water fluoridation and

"[s posted:

The World Health Organization[/s] Zionist Mindcontroller Globalists"]
A guideline value of 1.5 mg l–1 was therefore recommended by WHO as a level at which dental fluorosis should be minimal (WHO, 1984). The 1.5 mg l–1 fluoride guideline value that was set in 1984 was subsequently re-evaluated by WHO and it was concluded that there was no evidence to suggest that it should be revized

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

VitalSigns posted:

Wait is the WHO worth listening to or not.

Because I'm looking at their standards on water fluoridation and

A common conspiracy tactic is to overwhelm with information. 144 pages of info to make your point?

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Shbobdb posted:

A common conspiracy tactic is to overwhelm with information. 144 pages of info to make your point?

I know it's hardly up to the standards of a horse hair mat and a sly wink from the comely lass that beats the water in that perfect fashion, but we'll get you to understand how scientific standards are researched, supported, and set some day! Step out into the light; we have such wonders to show you.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Shbobdb posted:

If you are going to go for character assassination in lieu of content, at least criticize me based on my actual character as opposed to what you imagine my character to be.

Is the character of someone even relevant if they cover it with a mask whenever they interact with anyone? You're annoying and add nothing to the discussion. If your primary contribution is negative, why even bother?

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Shbobdb posted:

A common conspiracy tactic is to overwhelm with information. 144 pages of info to make your point?

All information should be presented solely with a cover page in large print, with no more than 7 bullet points and a two sentence summary.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

VitalSigns posted:

Every drink you take contains molecules that someone peed out of their peehole at some point.

You're drinking sewage, medical biohazard, wake up sheeple!

Not me, I drink Alex Jones' 100% authentic space formula, made from real space rocks!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I love how :tinfoil: types always throw out sinister sounding organizations as if their existence proves their crazy.

What the gently caress is the Club of Rome? Another scaaaary do nothing group like the Bilderburgs or Bohemian Grove?

BTW Rich people getting together to talk about how to be richer is not a secret shadowy conspiracy.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


twistedmentat posted:

I love how :tinfoil: types always throw out sinister sounding organizations as if their existence proves their crazy.

What the gently caress is the Club of Rome? Another scaaaary do nothing group like the Bilderburgs or Bohemian Grove?

BTW Rich people getting together to talk about how to be richer is not a secret shadowy conspiracy.

"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public" - Leonard Nimoy, Civ 4

Big Mackson
Sep 26, 2009
i have a theory that video artifacting creates evidence for conspiracy theories. WHAT DO THE CODEC CREATORS HAVE TO HIDE? WHERE IS THE CODEC?

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
Well video artifacts are solely responsible for all evidence of "Reptilians"

El Puerco
Feb 18, 2017
This has been argued endlessly. The buildings were designed to withstand two 707 impacts. Building 7 collapses on its own?

My dad used to get drunk and over stoke the fireplace. I remember watching the grate get red orange and slowly sag under the weight of the oak logs. Later on in welding class I learned where steel moves. Steel resists movement well above 1800 degrees. It moves very slowly when it deforms. There is only one steel framed building collapse. The building was fully involved and didn't have the anti draft measures to prevent significant oxygen flow to fire which burned for 24 hours, the top 10 floors collapsed on one side, there are pics, etc.

The wood stove doesn't collapse.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

FecLives posted:

This has been argued endlessly. The buildings were designed to withstand two 707 impacts. Building 7 collapses on its own?

My dad used to get drunk and over stoke the fireplace. I remember watching the grate get red orange and slowly sag under the weight of the oak logs. Later on in welding class I learned where steel moves. Steel resists movement well above 1800 degrees. It moves very slowly when it deforms. There is only one steel framed building collapse. The building was fully involved and didn't have the anti draft measures to prevent significant oxygen flow to fire which burned for 24 hours, the top 10 floors collapsed on one side, there are pics, etc.

The wood stove doesn't collapse.

The wood stove would probably collapse with the weight of a loving skyscraper on top of it though.

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Really, the entire logs in a wood stove analogy is almost certainly too different in detail to make any useful comparisons to steel beams and jet fuel and whatnot

SatansOnion fucked around with this message at 04:01 on May 1, 2017

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

GutBomb posted:

The wood stove would probably collapse with the weight of a loving skyscraper on top of it though.

Or at least, major chunks of a larger stove.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger
In case anyone still thought this poo poo was harmless.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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There are outbreaks all over northern Europe, too. Forced vaccinations should be on the table by now.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
In the US there's already precedent that forced vaccination is legal and constitutional. The problem is that recent governments haven't been willing to act on it.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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fishmech posted:

In the US there's already precedent that forced vaccination is legal and constitutional. The problem is that recent governments haven't been willing to act on it.

I can't blame them, at least some the antivaxx venn probably overlaps with the 'heavily armed fringe nut' one.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
I've been talking with an acquaintance who lives in NY who believes that there is a cabal of taxi drivers who are secretly enforcing Sharia Law upon members of the Muslim community. One of them apparently threatened him because at one point he stated interest in studying Islam, so I guess he's under the cabal's purview now. He's gone as far as to make a police report about being threatened.

I can't find this being discussed on any of the usual conspiracy sources so I'm wondering where he got this from, or if this is all him here.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Mercury_Storm posted:

I've been talking with an acquaintance who lives in NY who believes that there is a cabal of taxi drivers who are secretly enforcing Sharia Law upon members of the Muslim community. One of them apparently threatened him because at one point he stated interest in studying Islam, so I guess he's under the cabal's purview now. He's gone as far as to make a police report about being threatened.

I can't find this being discussed on any of the usual conspiracy sources so I'm wondering where he got this from, or if this is all him here.

The cab-al knows all.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Mercury_Storm posted:

I've been talking with an acquaintance who lives in NY who believes that there is a cabal of taxi drivers who are secretly enforcing Sharia Law upon members of the Muslim community. One of them apparently threatened him because at one point he stated interest in studying Islam, so I guess he's under the cabal's purview now. He's gone as far as to make a police report about being threatened.

I can't find this being discussed on any of the usual conspiracy sources so I'm wondering where he got this from, or if this is all him here.

You could be in at ground-zero of a brand new conspiracy theory. Keep your eyes peeled and you could maybe watch it metastasise across the internet. Soon you'll be reading about how cab drivers did 911

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Shbobdb posted:

A common conspiracy tactic is to overwhelm with information. 144 pages of info to make your point?

Didn't know Trump had an account. Now your posts make sense!

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Jazerus posted:

"People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public" - Leonard Nimoy, Civ 4

Oh yeah, I love plotting how to sabotage road designs for fun and profit. :v:

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Mercury_Storm posted:

I've been talking with an acquaintance who lives in NY who believes that there is a cabal of taxi drivers who are secretly enforcing Sharia Law upon members of the Muslim community. One of them apparently threatened him because at one point he stated interest in studying Islam, so I guess he's under the cabal's purview now. He's gone as far as to make a police report about being threatened.

I can't find this being discussed on any of the usual conspiracy sources so I'm wondering where he got this from, or if this is all him here.

Cab drivers seem like such quaint material for a contemporary conspiracy theory. It should be like Uber has secretly been taken over from the top down and their app tracks people and can send out kill orders coded in innocuous ways.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Illuminti posted:

You could be in at ground-zero of a brand new conspiracy theory. Keep your eyes peeled and you could maybe watch it metastasise across the internet. Soon you'll be reading about how cab drivers did 911

I heard cab drivers were dancing on rooftops when the second plane hit

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

At least in Oslo it doesn't seem controversial that taxi drivers are one of the ways the conservative Muslim (especially Somali) families hear about what sort of heathenry their younger family members are up to. Earlier this year the city moved a taxi stand that happened to be outside a large gay bar because some of the immigrant clientele there felt like they were being monitored. (ref)

Of course, Oslo is a small city, and the Muslim communities are both so small and so overrepresented among taxi drivers that this seems plausible - the taxi drivers kind of correspond to the stereotypical old women in small villages who notice what everyone does. It seems less likely in a place like NYC.

Computer viking fucked around with this message at 17:21 on May 5, 2017

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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Jack Gladney posted:

Cab drivers seem like such quaint material for a contemporary conspiracy theory. It should be like Uber has secretly been taken over from the top down and their app tracks people and can send out kill orders coded in innocuous ways.
I 100% guarantee there's a conspiracy theory that Uber is a way of making self driving cars palatable to the masses so the PTBs can take away the freedom to travel. Though that might just be the backstory to the Rush song Red Barchetta.

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