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NPR Journalizard posted:Oh please, tell me more. I for one would be thrilled if you could point out any world religion that does not oppress women, and is not a dictatorial regime with a total absence of suffrage.
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Korgan posted:STOP THE lovely POSTS Well it's not going to stop the lovely posts, so I don't see why you even bother.
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NTRabbit posted:I for one would be thrilled if you could point out any world religion that does not oppress women, and is not a dictatorial regime with a total absence of suffrage. One of the points she made was that there is a distinction to be made between religion and culture, and I feel you didn't quite grasp that.
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NPR Journalizard posted:One of the points she made was that there is a distinction to be made between religion and culture, and I feel you didn't quite grasp that. A distinction that doesn't actually exist outside of academia.
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NTRabbit posted:A distinction that doesn't actually exist outside of academia. I believe you are wrong, but cbfed arguing with you.
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Wheezle posted:This is a really fascinating slap fight, guys. Do go on for a few more pages. I think one of them knows exactly what they're doing but I don't want to spoil it by saying which one.
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NPR Journalizard posted:I believe you are wrong, but cbfed arguing with you. Religion infests, perverts, and attempts to dominate culture in order to propagate, because the greater the number of followers, the greater the power held by those in charge, and the acquisition and retention of power over others is all religion has ever been about. It's really nice to say that the full coverings are a cultural choice, and the religion itself doesn't dictate which one is right - but the religion does dictate one is necessary, various leaders of sects within that religion dictate specific ones within the areas they control, and within those areas it's often not possible to not join, or leave, that religion without it being a crime, because they control the culture, and by extension the people, and the government. Also, when is the last time they held a general election for the post of Ayatollah? or Grand Mufti? or Pope? or Dalai Llama? NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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should the yelling be a criminal offence? probably not but my posting should be
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So JBP should that dude yelling stop war at the Anzac memorial been arrested for what he did?
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NTRabbit posted:Religion infests, perverts, and attempts to dominate culture in order to propagate, because the greater the number of followers, the greater the power held by those in charge, and the acquisition and retention of power over others is all religion has ever been about. How the gently caress did you manage to get so woke you horseshoed yourself and became Jaqui Lambie?
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Frogfingers posted:How the gently caress did you manage to get so woke you horseshoed yourself and became Jaqui Lambie? Jaqui Lambie was half right in that particular argument - she was right that Islam was neither feminist nor democratic, but incredibly wrong that Sharia law is any kind of chance of happening here. Also, she didn't make the next step, which is to point out that every religion is misogynist and antidemocratic, because that would mean realising just how perverted "Christian" Australia actually is.
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Frogfingers posted:How the gently caress did you manage to get so woke you horseshoed yourself and became Jaqui Lambie? Wait till you find out about tankies then.
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Big Willy Style posted:So JBP should that dude yelling stop war at the Anzac memorial been arrested for what he did? He clearly broke the relevant law so of course. I couldn't comment on the outcome of the incident within a universe where that law didn't exist as I have not been instructed to do so.
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JBP posted:He clearly broke the relevant law so of course. I couldn't comment on the outcome of the incident within a universe where that law didn't exist as I have not been instructed to do so. lmao look at this triggered snowflake
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Oh it was meant to be a joke because the question was a joke.
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I am really glad that forums poster JBP is here to lecture activists on appropriate tone
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Recoome posted:I am really glad that forums poster JBP is here to lecture activists on appropriate tone
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You can take a position on something, and support peoples protests of it, but also have the knowledge of that sometimes people on your side are assholes and actively both hurting the cause and the visceral defending of which paints the entire concept with the same brush. Party of protest not party of government.
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I think shouting that at an Anzac day ceremony is a pretty lovely thing to do, because the war vets I know who go to those find them a pretty difficult and emotional experience. I also don't think that you should be able to be arrested for shouting something like "stop the war" at a moment of silence at an Anzac day ceremony...
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hooman posted:I think shouting that at an Anzac day ceremony is a pretty lovely thing to do, because the war vets I know who go to those find them a pretty difficult and emotional experience.
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Ahh I'll have to ensure I politely ask (in an appropriate tone of course) if I can counter-protest an anti-abortion rally in the future. I don't want to be offensive or trigger anyone
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In this case you'd be protesting an abortion is wrong rally with your anti abortion rally. It's weird.
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"real people" struggle to understand that the way their friends and family died might be wrong and need to stop.
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JBP posted:In this case you'd be protesting an abortion is wrong rally with your anti abortion rally. It's weird. Ummmm I am tired but counter-protesting at an anti abortion rally is actually pro abortion?
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JBP posted:"real people" struggle to understand that the way their friends and family died might be wrong and need to stop. My parents are actually decorated veterans and their experiences have changed them. I'm acutely aware of what this day de jure stands for, and what this day stands for de facto.
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Wish someone would abort your posts.
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Are the people that commemorate Anzac Day pro war?
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thatbastardken posted:Wish someone would abort your posts. 
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Recoome posted:Ahh I'll have to ensure I politely ask (in an appropriate tone of course) if I can counter-protest an anti-abortion rally in the future. I don't want to be offensive or trigger anyone I didn't say this. In fact I specifically stated I believed in your legal right to protest irrespective of my or anyone else's view on the appropriateness of that protest.
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gently caress me this is some shithouse posting.
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JBP posted:Are the people that commemorate Anzac Day pro war? Having gone to ~a lot~ of ANZAC services, I think that the ceremonies at least glorify aspects of war which I really disagree with. Honestly I wouldn't protest at a dawn service, but I absolutely would protest today. Turning a day around like this is actually a good way to make a really good point about our ~australian values~
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Recoome posted:Having gone to ~a lot~ of ANZAC services, I think that the ceremonies at least glorify aspects of war which I really disagree with. Good so we agree.
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JBP posted:Are the people that commemorate Anzac Day pro war? They fly jets over the commemorations so you be the judge.
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Xerxes17 posted:gently caress me this is some shithouse posting.
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Malcolm Turnbull in Afghanistan: "You're all doing good, kill more rag-heads. But don't take this as saying Anzac day is pro-war, no, that'd be politicising it and that's something Australians just don't do..."
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Starshark posted:They fly jets over the commemorations so you be the judge. They also fly jets over sport.
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