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Gitro
May 29, 2013

Awesome, no more stressing out every time there's monsters near a corner, doorway or small rock.

Also yeah do every other movement skill now.

I haven't found another reliquary key in like 30-50 hours of game time or more. I got 3 drops from my first one but only one on the next two, still not sure which is the normal result. Really excited for my third foil sign!

Gitro fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Apr 26, 2017

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Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't

Gitro posted:

Awesome, no more stressing out every time there's monsters near a corner, doorway or small rock.

Also yeah do every other movement skill now.

I haven't found another reliquary key in like 30-50 hours of game time or more. I got 3 drops from my first one but only one on the next two, still not sure which is the normal result. Really excited for my third foil sign!

I had 5 days /played before I found even one key.

e: if you meant normal result from a reliquary, 1 is by far more common.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


i sold the first 3 i found i think and told myself i would definitely open the next one. wondertrap. never again.

Mystery Prize
Nov 7, 2010
I'm at like 200 hours played this league and I've yet to find a key, not super unusual I think. I hear they are around exalt level of rarity?

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


i feel like they are way too rare relative to the chance at getting something good

Flying Spaghetti
Dec 1, 2002

Existence is overrated

Awesome! posted:

i feel like they are way too rare relative to the chance at getting something good

I agree, I've found one this league, but had 3 exalt drop.

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
I found a key and opened it...loving Sadima's :argh:

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Awesome! posted:

i sold the first 3 i found i think and told myself i would definitely open the next one. wondertrap. never again.

This is pretty much me, except I got a crappy 1hdr axe

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
legacy vinktar

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


yeah yeah again gently caress you

Rakeris
Jul 20, 2014

I have not found one key or one exalt so far this league. But I did find one divine orb!

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

I got a legacy rumi's in one of my keys


theshim posted:

legacy vinktar

And I turned part of shim's vinktar into a legacy facebreaker and legacy voidbringer today :toot:

that build is still not as good as my howa but it's fun and goofy to just drop totems and not care about dying becuase you have 0 aura's/golems

Valle
Apr 16, 2004

Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001

Gitro posted:

I haven't found another reliquary key in like 30-50 hours of game time or more. I got 3 drops from my first one but only one on the next two, still not sure which is the normal result. Really excited for my third foil sign!

According to my /played on characters this league I've got...huh, deduct a huge bunch of afk....and I've still got over 500 hours played. Welp! Anyway, I found two reliquary keys in the first 100 of those, and nothing since. It's like it was removed from the drop table for my account. I have at least found 6 (or is it 7?) ex in that time.

Valle fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Apr 26, 2017

Aerox
Jan 8, 2012
I've had two keys and one exalt drop.

First prize was a legacy Springleaf.

Second was a legacy Thief's Torment, which appears to be an actively worse version than the current one.

Gitro
May 29, 2013

Magus42 posted:

I had 5 days /played before I found even one key.

e: if you meant normal result from a reliquary, 1 is by far more common.

Yeah that's what I meant

This entire game is an endless garbage lottery for neat items and I just want to roll more dice and, if nothing else, collect shiny poo poo.

Valle posted:

According to my /played on characters this league I've got...huh, deduct a huge bunch of akf....and I've still got over 500 hours played. Welp! Anyway, I found two reliquary keys in the first 100 of those, and nothing since. It's like it was removed from the drop table for my account. I have at least found 6 (or is it 7?) ex in that time.

I know some of it was spent levelling, but after checking playtime it must have been at least 50 hours since my last one. My first key was from some barrel in cruel lab I accidentally broke while leap slamming, I guess I need to do that more often???

Gitro fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 26, 2017

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
i got a legacy maligaro's virtuosity and a legacy meginord's which are both pretty decent hauls. also some garbage i can't even remember the name of. don't sell your keys either way, this green stuff is gonna be a super valuable collector's item in a few years i just know it

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

I got a legacy eye of chalupa with a normal allstats roll. And then I bought a legacy coil with a bad hp roll for an ex before ex got too stupid.

Xenochrist
Sep 11, 2006


The key to the key, like all drops in this casino game, is the desire sensor.
During first few days in league where stuff sells like crazy and you want to get something awesome? You get jack.
Many weeks in and you've played hundreds of hours and have done nearly everything in the league and don't need any noticible upgrades and a key drops and you say eh gently caress it I'll open it for fun? You get fucken item quantity support.

Gitro
May 29, 2013
Uh what, Xoph showed up for a breach and then just noped on out. I'm pretty sure I don't have any chance to flee on anything unless it's an inherent property of intimidate, and the wiki doesn't say it is. I wanted to hit him a bunch :smith:

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


they can just be assholes and run away outside the breach sometimes

Stangg
Mar 17, 2009
After playing with earthquake for a bit it doesn't feel as strong as something like sunder, am I right in assuming it feels quite clunky until you get reduced duration in the link setup?

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Stangg posted:

After playing with earthquake for a bit it doesn't feel as strong as something like sunder, am I right in assuming it feels quite clunky until you get reduced duration in the link setup?

yes, also get a poison gem, a 6L coronal maul, two curses (vuln and enf) and a kaoms heart


Welcome To Jeb Town :getin:

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So how exactly do you start upgrading your gear once you hit A4 Merc on solo?
I'm doing my first SSF HC and I don't think I can go past Dried Lakes without dying and I have no idea how to improve my gear without trading. I'm playing a Cleaver Gladiator. Should I be doing the regal recipe to craft from good blue gear?

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

I want to make a block duelist using The Surrender and the other two trigger skills with it, how viable is that if at all?

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Elentor posted:

So how exactly do you start upgrading your gear once you hit A4 Merc on solo?
I'm doing my first SSF HC and I don't think I can go past Dried Lakes without dying and I have no idea how to improve my gear without trading. I'm playing a Cleaver Gladiator. Should I be doing the regal recipe to craft from good blue gear?

you are playing with 1H Melee the probably hardest to gear SSF constellation, in fact in your place I would reroll a spell caster and just stash all the good 1H gear until you have enough for your Gladiator

pokchu
Aug 22, 2007
D:

Goa Tse-tung posted:

yes, also get a poison gem, a 6L coronal maul, two curses (vuln and enf) and a kaoms heart


Welcome To Jeb Town :getin:

disfavour*

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Can you actually kill breachlords and get their drops in regular map breaches? Or do they only drop shards

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
Yes you can kill them. No they don't drop full Breachstones, just (lots of, hopefully) shards.

Bah, mis-interpreted what you said. Pretend I said exactly what Bugsy did.

whypick1 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Apr 26, 2017

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde

Flavahbeast posted:

Can you actually kill breachlords and get their drops in regular map breaches? Or do they only drop shards

They and the named clasped hand have a chance to drop the breach specific uniques, but I think its pretty low.

Ultima66
Sep 2, 2008

The Shortest Path posted:

I want to make a block duelist using The Surrender and the other two trigger skills with it, how viable is that if at all?

Slow

BobbyK
Jun 4, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I think my next big upgrade for my HOWA guy is a Vinktar. Is there anything particular I should look for stats wise on them? Do some of them roll with lightning penetration or something? They all seem generally the same on poe.trade

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

BobbyK posted:

I think my next big upgrade for my HOWA guy is a Vinktar. Is there anything particular I should look for stats wise on them? Do some of them roll with lightning penetration or something? They all seem generally the same on poe.trade

Yeah, you want lightning penetration if possible (they tend to cost more than the others but it's worth it). A good roll on the charges used doesn't hurt either.

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet

BobbyK posted:

I think my next big upgrade for my HOWA guy is a Vinktar. Is there anything particular I should look for stats wise on them? Do some of them roll with lightning penetration or something? They all seem generally the same on poe.trade

There's 4 variants: lightning penetration, +lightning to attacks, phys->lightning and +lightning to spells. Look for them in that order.

The Broletariat
May 23, 2004
I wonder if there's beer on the sun?

Valle posted:

According to my /played on characters this league I've got...huh, deduct a huge bunch of afk....and I've still got over 500 hours played. Welp! Anyway, I found two reliquary keys in the first 100 of those, and nothing since. It's like it was removed from the drop table for my account. I have at least found 6 (or is it 7?) ex in that time.

Wait, so you deduct a bunch of afk time and are STILL at over 500 hours played? And only 2 keys/7ex? Are you constantly rerolling? This does not seem right. 500 hours is a poo poo ton of actual playtime for the average joe. My league starting character is ~200 hrs and I've found more than that on just that guy (that is basically 0 afk time).

Also, if you are playing HoWA, 100% invest in a pen Vinktar.

Valle
Apr 16, 2004

Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001
I've got 5 characters. Level 93, 89, 87, 86 and 84. The 93 should by right be 95 but exp loss and death and gently caress it. I've played....a lot. I've found some valuable items at least! But yeah, reliquary keys do not exist.

Edit: I should point out that I'm not exactly the fastest or most efficient player around, so for a regular endgame player those hours would be toned down quite a bit.

Edit 2: Complaining helps, just found my 3rd ARK!

Valle fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Apr 26, 2017

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet
DoT gonna get nerfed y'all

tl;dr: A lot fewer keywords will scale DoT damage, which will be more affect by the initial hit. Scaling from hit will be doubled to compensate, a few new nodes will be added, bleeding while stationary damage has tripled but only against monsters. All of this will be in the beta.

Ultima66
Sep 2, 2008

Basically think of the changes this way: EVERY skill is now like Vortex with a separate listed initial hit damage and DoT damage.

Every single skill that can ignite now effectively says "Deals 600 damage, ignites caused by this skill deal 240 damage per second." Ethereal Knives now effectively says "Deals 400 physical damage, poisons caused by this skill deal 64 poison damage per second" while your character has gear/supports that allow the skill to poison. The two numbers are no longer connected in any way.

It's a pretty clever way to do it, if a little hard to grasp at first.

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon

whypick1 posted:

DoT gonna get nerfed y'all

tl;dr: A lot fewer keywords will scale DoT damage, which will be more affect by the initial hit. Scaling from hit will be doubled to compensate, a few new nodes will be added, bleeding while stationary damage has tripled but only against monsters. All of this will be in the beta.

New keystone, huh. More dot damage but can only deal dot damage maybe?

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

ShutteredIn posted:

New keystone, huh. More dot damage but can only deal dot damage maybe?

% of initial hit coverted to dot

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LordNat
May 16, 2009

ShutteredIn posted:

New keystone, huh. More dot damage but can only deal dot damage maybe?

50% of detect damage is converted into DoT Damage.
You can not deal non-DoT damage.

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