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Raxivace posted:People apparently dislike this Social Link more than I realized. The most recent Random Encounter episode had like a 20 minute discussion about how they don't like that its in the game.
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Raxivace posted:People apparently dislike this Social Link more than I realized. The most recent Random Encounter episode had like a 20 minute discussion about how they don't like that its in the game.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:26
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its interesting cause they had to like acknowledge futabas social stunting but then they go ahead and fix it in like 20 minutes. which is fine, it would suck to deal with that for like a whole game, but it does have a little bit of that persona 4 panglossian thing where everything always works out for the best, and quick too
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NachtSieger posted:Sae: tell me about the loving vegetables, MC. where'd you get the produce? *pounds fist on table* No criminal could be so kind. Unless you were taking care of someone... or something. 
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Zas posted:its interesting cause they had to like acknowledge futabas social stunting but then they go ahead and fix it in like 20 minutes.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:28
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Dragonatrix posted:And... you can actually go into the gym? Outside of confidant scenes? Every time I tried, Morgana was like "why spend money when you have a perfectly good chair" so I figured it wasn't actually usable. Morgana let me go after that one S Link rank with Ryuji, I think? You can get some SP when training at the gym, I suppose.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:32
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FractalSandwich posted:They don't like that you can date her, or they don't like it in general?
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Raxivace posted:It sounded like they were saying both to me. They feel Joker has too much power over Kawakami- they contrast this with the Doctor who they felt had a more equal relationship. They also think it plays weird with the context of the game opening with the Kamoshida stuff. They aren't wrong.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:43
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It definitely draws contrast to Kamoshida and Ann, even if it's so insistent on Becky being a different person from Kawakami. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:45
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We're talking about the same Doctor Who whose "friends" are all "assistants"? Who is the sole person who owns the god-drat time machine so you best keep your rear end in line if you don't want abandoning in 1208? 'cos the base concept of Doctor Who is un-salvageable in terms of creating a reasonable power dynamic, never mind balanced. 'cos Persona 5 isn't perfect by any stretch but if anything regarding Doctor Who is your go to counter argument...
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Apr 26, 2017 08:50
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Raxivace posted:It sounded like they were saying both to me. They feel Joker has too much power over Kawakami- they contrast this with the Doctor who they felt had a more equal relationship. They also think it plays weird with the context of the game opening with the Kamoshida stuff. It'd work better if Kawakami worked out that Joker was a Phantom Thief from the beginning (it wouldn't be hard, Ryuji is shouting it every 5 minutes or so), then their shared secret keeping is somewhat more equal.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:50
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The doctor as in Takemi. the doctor in this game.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:We're talking about the same Doctor Who whose "friends" are all "assistants"? Who is the sole person who owns the god-drat time machine so you best keep your rear end in line if you don't want abandoning in 1208? 'cos the base concept of Doctor Who is un-salvageable in terms of creating a reasonable power dynamic, never mind balanced. My apologies for the confusion.
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Who would win in a fight, Doctor Who or the Phantom Thieves
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Apr 26, 2017 08:51
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I too get upset about make believe relationships in a video game. The loving contract you sign at the beginning of these games does have a "No" option, you know.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:52
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Just swinging in and looking at absolutely nothing to comment that (near the end spoilers) I spent basically the whole game thinking the writers were extremely sloppy at telegraphing their twists and were giving way too much away with Shido, the SIU director, how obvious it was you had started the game in Sae's palace and so on, then Akechi turns on you and I was genuinely caught off-guard. So, good job there!
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Apr 26, 2017 08:53
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Raxivace posted:No, the doctor in Persona 5. I just couldn't remember her name. Bae Takemi
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Apr 26, 2017 08:55
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Count Bleck posted:I too get upset about make believe relationships in a video game. What are you talking about
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CharlestheHammer posted:What are you talking about What, people getting upset over relationships in a video game or the This is a Work of Fiction contract you 'sign' to play?
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Apr 26, 2017 09:03
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You can think fictional relationships can be hosed up
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Who would win in a fight, Doctor Who or the Phantom Thieves The Doctor clearly, he's got two hearts 
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Apr 26, 2017 09:06
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Dolash posted:Just swinging in and looking at absolutely nothing to comment that (near the end spoilers) I spent basically the whole game thinking the writers were extremely sloppy at telegraphing their twists and were giving way too much away with Shido, the SIU director, how obvious it was you had started the game in Sae's palace and so on, then Akechi turns on you and I was genuinely caught off-guard. So, good job there! R...really? That's the part that surprised you?
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Apr 26, 2017 09:09
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the 'teacher/student relationships are kinda weird' thing is whatever but joker doesnt really have any power over her, as illustrated by her conking the gently caress out on his bed at every opportunity. technically she's supposed to do whatever the person paying her says but the game makes a point of showing she doesnt stick to that part of the job, at least when joker is involved, so it's weird to act like there's some sort of power inequality there.
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Count Bleck posted:What, people getting upset over relationships in a video game or the This is a Work of Fiction contract you 'sign' to play? Both really as neither makes much sense.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:12
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Endorph posted:the 'teacher/student relationships are kinda weird' thing is whatever but joker doesnt really have any power over her, as illustrated by her conking the gently caress out on his bed at every opportunity. technically she's supposed to do whatever the person paying her says but the game makes a point of showing she doesnt stick to that part of the job, at least when joker is involved, so it's weird to act like there's some sort of power inequality there. Joker lets her do whatever she wants, Joker never really fights her. There is a huge power inequality, whether she is lovely at her job or not.
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Endorph posted:the 'teacher/student relationships are kinda weird' thing is whatever but joker doesnt really have any power over her, as illustrated by her conking the gently caress out on his bed at every opportunity. technically she's supposed to do whatever the person paying her says but the game makes a point of showing she doesnt stick to that part of the job, at least when joker is involved, so it's weird to act like there's some sort of power inequality there. I like it when she tells you to clean your room so she doesn't have to do a thing when she arrives 
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Apr 26, 2017 09:15
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Saagonsa posted:You can think fictional relationships can be hosed up woah, drat.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:14
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To be honest she is lucky she got Joker the chilliest dude.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:16
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Like, Joker tells her he is a dad so I can't at all blame Kawakami for wanting him to be more responsible. She's gotta be Futaba's new stepmom so she can't be doing all the work here.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:20
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GIVE IN TO TEMPTATIOOOOOON
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Motto posted:GIVE who knows where the whims of fate may lead us
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Motto posted:GIVE
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Dragonatrix posted:Like, Joker tells her he is a dad so I can't at all blame Kawakami for wanting him to be more responsible. She's gotta be Futaba's new stepmom so she can't be doing all the work here. He is a dad. To a beautiful and pushy sleepy boy called Morgana.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:36
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Kawakami's social link seems like you're paying her 5000 a pop to tell you all her problems.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:He is a dad.
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Dragonatrix posted:Like, Joker tells her he is a dad so I can't at all blame Kawakami for wanting him to be more responsible. She's gotta be Futaba's new stepmom so she can't be doing all the work here. Futaba's Joker's sister not his daughter.
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The teacher link itself is conceptually awesome and perfectly fits the tone of the game, the fact that she is capable of being seduced by Joker is dumb as hellCount Bleck posted:I too get upset about make believe relationships in a video game. Settle down
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Captain Oblivious posted:R...really? That's the part that surprised you? I mean there is definitely a twist that got me in this game (and it fuckin rules) but that one is telegraphed pretty hard, Crow is the sketchiest motherfucker in the world and the "pancakes" thing was so obvious I was sure dropping that hint had to be part of his grand plan somehow.
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