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Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
After you fix the floor build a platform around the tub for the sunken experience.

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socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

brugroffil posted:

I'd ask for the guy's engineering licenses number and look it up on the state registry (super easy in Illinois, imagine it's the same in California). You want stamped drawings. That means the engineer is putting their own rear end on the line civilly and criminally.

Exactly. A real engineer would WANT the inspector to sign off on it, since it's kind of hard to cover it up since in theory permits would have been pulled to fix the joists, and city-approved plans + inspector sign-off help an engineer cover their own rear end.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Elsa posted:

After you fix the floor build a platform around the tub for the sunken experience.
Now you are in the sunken place

Signed, beatmasterj's 'engineer'

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

"We couldn't get the tub to work right when sunken in, so instead we raised the floor of the bathroom by three inches. Just slapped down a bunch of lumber then tiled on top of it."

bEatmstrJ
Jun 30, 2004

Look upon my bathroom joists, ye females, and despair.

Facebook Aunt posted:

Is the tub going to be set in stone?

Yes, but not yet. So don't get too excited.

The Gardenator
May 4, 2007


Yams Fan
From watching mike holmes, I dont see how they are gonna install sistered joists without ripping out your downstairs ceiling and then jacking up your sinking floor.

Does the floor creak when walking near the tub pit?

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

bEatmstrJ posted:

Yes, but not yet. So don't get too excited.

The thought of all this excess weight on cut and re-rigged engineered i-beams has me all kinds of excited.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Dr.Smasher posted:

The thought of all this excess weight on cut and re-rigged engineered i-beams has me all kinds of excited.

Your username is very appropriate.

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


sup OP (@10:28)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ym3CEKyta4&t=609s

hot notched joist on unsafe joist action

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



SoundMonkey posted:

sup OP (@10:28)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ym3CEKyta4&t=609s

hot notched joist on unsafe joist action

That guy is Captain Irritating as gently caress Obvious, and while that butch job is in extremely poor form, the house isn't going to fall in from it.

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib
I found an awesome tub that will fit perfectly in that bathroom:

http://www.signaturehardware.com/60...5AtiRoC4Kvw_wcB

Product Details:
Design: Modern
Product Finish: Black Granite
Overflow Hole: No
Shape: Oval
Length: 60"
Width: 36"
Height: 22"
Tub Interior Length: 41"
Tub Interior Width: 21"
Water Depth to Rim: 18"
Exterior Treatment: Rough
Interior Treatment: Smooth
Tap Deck: No
Drain Included: No
Drain Placement: Center
Faucet Included: No
Faucet Drillings: No Drillings
Water Capacity (Gallons): 67
Tub Weight Uncrated (lbs): 2000

Oooohhh, another option here that doesn't require any costly fixes to the floor joists. Hang that fucker from the ceiling:

http://www.theluxuryspot.com/awesome-spotting-a-bath-tub-that-hangs-from-the-ceiling/

Neutrino fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Apr 25, 2017

bEatmstrJ
Jun 30, 2004

Look upon my bathroom joists, ye females, and despair.

The Gardenator posted:

From watching mike holmes, I dont see how they are gonna install sistered joists without ripping out your downstairs ceiling and then jacking up your sinking floor.

Does the floor creak when walking near the tub pit?

It sounds like they will be pulling up some more subfloor to access the joists, but I don't have any details on how much. However it's not really an issue because all of the existing floor tile and hardibacker needs to come up anyway so it's not going to be much more invasive than it would have been. As far as coming in from the kitchen goes, I'm not certain if that will be needed or not.

The floor doesn't creak. Not even a little. I walked and sat on the cut joists when I was doing the bathtub plumbing and they didn't budge. Not to say they are completely safe or anything, but there's no noticeable flex or noises.

Dr.Smasher posted:

The thought of all this excess weight on cut and re-rigged engineered i-beams has me all kinds of excited.

The new design will actually be less total weight than the previous tub. The old tub surround had a solid 2" of mortar around the entire box, then topped with (ugly) tile. The weight of that mortar alone must have been ~500lbs. Not to mention the new tub is significantly lighter without all the jacuzzi goings-ons. The rock surround I estimate will weigh about 200lbs.

Fuckface the Hedgehog
Jun 12, 2007

Might want to double check that weight matey, unless youre using the cheapest possible bathtub and plastic rocks. Even then factor the weight of the water and a goony fucker into those calculations.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



A gallon of water is 8.3 lbs and google says the average bathtub has an 80 gal capacity so that's 664 lbs right there.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Mr. Nice! posted:

A gallon of water is 8.3 lbs and google says the average bathtub has an 80 gal capacity so that's 664 lbs right there.

Double that for a goon's bathtub.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Guys, who fills their tub to the top? poo poo is safe. Move forward OP.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Burt Sexual posted:

Guys, who fills their tub to the top? poo poo is safe. Move forward OP.

Filled weight is always calculated at the overflow drain height.

Source: I worked for a well known plumbing company known for their Bold Look

SoundMonkey
Apr 22, 2006

I just push buttons.


Burt Sexual posted:

Guys, who fills their tub to the top? poo poo is safe. Move forward OP.

yeah like 3/4 full max, plus people FLOAT in water so why the hell would i ever consider my own weight, christ. also they always throw in a little padding, water probably only weighs half of what they say it does by volume.

bEatmstrJ
Jun 30, 2004

Look upon my bathroom joists, ye females, and despair.
I already did the calculations for my own enjoyment (not that the engineer should take any of that into consideration), but it turned out as follows:

tub 150
60gal water 480 - full, which it won't be
floor tile ~100 - 25sqft
river rock 16sqft @2" ~225
2 people in tub 350 - no fat chicks
hardi/subfloor ~50
total lbs 1355

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Any tub that can fit two people is going to be bigger than 60 gallons.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Also why the gently caress are you putting gravel around your tub other than to serve as an ideal environment for mold?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Mr. Nice! posted:

Also why the gently caress are you putting gravel around your tub other than to serve as an ideal environment for mold?

These plans are set in stone.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Mold isn't a stone

TheMightyHandful
Dec 8, 2008

Malachite_Dragon posted:

Mold isn't a stone

Stones are though

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Also why the gently caress are you putting gravel around your tub other than to serve as an ideal environment for mold?
Because that way as he loses his feet to a flesh eating infection, he can reassure himself it's all worth it because it's not boring old builder quality.

bEatmstrJ
Jun 30, 2004

Look upon my bathroom joists, ye females, and despair.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Any tub that can fit two people is going to be bigger than 60 gallons.

I already have the new tub. It's about 60 gallons and will fit two non goon-sized people. *Edit - It might be a little more than 60 gallons. The website doesn't actually say so I compared it to some other comparatively lengthed tubs.

Mr. Nice! posted:

Also why the gently caress are you putting gravel around your tub other than to serve as an ideal environment for mold?

To serve as an ideal environment for mold.

Which is the same reason I would imagine these people did it:
https://cdn.decorpad.com/photos/2013/03/24/m_8bc87ed70478.jpeg
http://cdn.decoist.com/wp-content/u...elaxing-hub.jpg
http://cdn.decoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Beautiful-basalt-tub-placed-in-a-bed-or-river-rocks.jpg
http://designingidea.com/wp-content...ver-rock-16.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/b4/54/d3b454e3abd2debb4cf44282de49b897.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1618/23725142094_b95a5d47cb_b.jpg

bEatmstrJ fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Apr 26, 2017

Fuckface the Hedgehog
Jun 12, 2007

bEatmstrJ posted:

I already did the calculations for my own enjoyment (not that the engineer should take any of that into consideration), but it turned out as follows:

tub 150
60gal water 480 - full, which it won't be
floor tile ~100 - 25sqft
river rock 16sqft @2" ~225
2 people in tub 350 - no fat chicks
hardi/subfloor ~50
total lbs 1355


You only date chicks that are 50 pounds!?

Edit: also one of those bathtubs you linked is filled with lillies. Will you also be filling your bathtub with lillies?

Fuckface the Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Apr 26, 2017

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

One of them had candles around it too, will you be doing the same? What's your candle budget like?

in_cahoots
Sep 12, 2011
Is making your bathroom as close to the great outdoors as possible a guy thing? None of my lady friends are into rock floors or moss walls or the like, and neither am I. It's like taking the terribleness of tile counters and adding an extra helping of mold, dirt, and bugs. Give me minimalist and easy-to-clean any day.

Fuckface the Hedgehog
Jun 12, 2007

I skipped all the interior design and just bathe in a fishpond in my neighbours backyard. Saves me a shitload of money too!

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

"I don't know the for sure total volume of this three dimensional object, but based on one of the three dimensions, it should be 60 gallons and fit two people, easy"

Budgie
Mar 9, 2007
Yeah, like the bird.

bEatmstrJ posted:

I already have the new tub. It's about 60 gallons and will fit two non goon-sized people. *Edit - It might be a little more than 60 gallons. The website doesn't actually say so I compared it to some other comparatively lengthed tubs.


To serve as an ideal environment for mold.

Which is the same reason I would imagine these people did it:
https://cdn.decorpad.com/photos/2013/03/24/m_8bc87ed70478.jpeg
http://cdn.decoist.com/wp-content/u...elaxing-hub.jpg
http://cdn.decoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Beautiful-basalt-tub-placed-in-a-bed-or-river-rocks.jpg
http://designingidea.com/wp-content...ver-rock-16.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/b4/54/d3b454e3abd2debb4cf44282de49b897.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1618/23725142094_b95a5d47cb_b.jpg

Most of those tubs seem to be on the ground floor. Yours will be too, soon.

Budgie fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Apr 26, 2017

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Budgie posted:

Most of those tubs seem to be on the ground floor. Yours will be too, soon.

Also most of those are clearly in show homes, resorts, or the houses of people who have the money to pay someone to pressure wash and bleach their tub rocks every week.

It'd be a good idea if you wanted to build an outdoor tub but there's a whole other level of random poo poo when it comes to outdoor showers/baths.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
You know those are from show homes right OP? Wonderful at the exhibit or on television, but unless you have a maid who will spend hours cleaning them for you every day they will become the absolute bain of your life in three months time and the bathroom being upstairs will turn them into objects of abject hatred. Please just stop and think "how will I clean them?" Moss mats were linked earlier, please please consider them instead.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Man I would hate to sit in the tub relaxing for a while, only to have to get out and walk on fuckin' rocks

Yin and yang I guess

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
So glad I kept this thread bookmarked!

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib

I have to admit those are pretty pictures. While we're on the subject of bathtubs this is a pretty picture too:

:NSFW: Man washing his rear end in the tub.

Edit: this could be construed as nsfw.

Neutrino fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Apr 26, 2017

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe

Neutrino posted:

Man washing his rear end in the tub.

No rocks around the tub. 0/10

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



SouthShoreSamurai posted:

No rocks around the tub. 0/10

Bricks are good enough for me.

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Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.
In terms of ROI no buyer is going to pay what you paid for a mold farm, OP. This is a sunk cost. Also in those pics you posted most of them share one thing: plenty of natural light. Helps keep mold in check. You boarded up a window and now have less natural light than you started with.

JK your plans are perfect, please proceed. This thread owns.

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