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Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



I think I'm reading too much McMansionHell because I can't help but notice the tiny, fake shutters.

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moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
They're really bad looking fake shutters too

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It bothers me more than it should that each building in the last pic has a differently-oriented sloped roof.

edit: Also, isn't that little pocket behind the archway just going to collect water when it rains? Where could a gutter fit in there that would lead the rain water away??

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

It's ok. The cosmetic deficiencies are inconsequential compared to the gross structural deficiencies, so sooner or later it's all going to rot and collapse and then it'll be back to the original house!

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib

CJacobs posted:

edit: Also, isn't that little pocket behind the archway just going to collect water when it rains? Where could a gutter fit in there that would lead the rain water away??

He did put rain gutters in place in some locations. You'll notice in the current pic of the house on the far right there is approximately 12 feet of gutters with a downspout at the last porch column. Obviously the cost of the tower was taken out of the gutter budget.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

There was a tree about a foot from my house. I decided to chop out the stump with an axe.


I am the crappy destruction tale






I hit two sprinkler system lines, which the roots were wrapped around anyway. One was pressurized as the supply line for the back yard. Also the control wire for the rear sprinklers was buried with the pipes, which I also chopped.




I still blame the previous owners for burying it so shallow and putting a stupid tree on top of it.

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



The tree was going to destroy those lines eventually, you just accelerated the inevitable.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

TBH, I couldn't pry the stump out until I accidentally cut through them, they were holding the tree down. Oh well, took about 5 minutes to fix, just PVC.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

We removed a tall tree that was against the foundation a few years ago. Now every winter the soil or clay or whatever under where the tree was swells a bit and the entire foundation along that part of the house lifts a fraction of an inch. Just enough to cause some cracks inside, nothing dangerous but it's really annoying.

What I'm getting at is if you removed the roots you may need to do more to compact the earth or something. Also keep in mind the dead roots might attract termites.

Seriously gently caress previous owners who plant trees up against houses, god.

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!
There's a house in my neighborhood that has those fake shutters on the basement door, full length.

I just... don't know.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Theres a house near where I live that has a massive pine inside of it. I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow because I spotted it from the road and immediately went :dogstare:

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
The house that I rent is becoming a crappy construction tale and will continue to get worse as time goes on. When we first moved in the towel rails fell off the wall in the bathroom but that is small bikkies compared to what has happened since then. The shower stall was never fitted properly so it leaks into the wall outside of it. On top of that all of the silicone in the shower has a nasty case of mould and the owners won't fix it because it cost money. On top of that the bath decided that leaking out of the gap between the tile and the bath was a good idea. I'd fix it myself but this poo poo isn't mine and son't give enough of a gently caress to bother fixing the crumbling shack that I call a home at this point in time.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

HardDiskD posted:

I think I'm reading too much McMansionHell because I can't help but notice the tiny, fake shutters.

Quick question, because I see this complaint a LOT around here:

What's with the hate for fake shutters? Obviously, the ones on this house are too small (as are the ones on most McMansions because it seems people love GIANT windows), but don't MOST homes have fake shutters?

Surely you don't suggest someone put REAL shutters on their house, do you? Unless you live in hurricane or tornado country, seems unnecessary.

And having nothing on the sides of the windows looks more out of place/"naked" to me than even the small, fake, shutters. I took a look at the houses in my block and they have either fake shutters, or nothing. The ones with nothing look worse.

So what is one supposed to put on the side of their windows? :confused:

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

DrBouvenstein posted:

Quick question, because I see this complaint a LOT around here:

What's with the hate for fake shutters? Obviously, the ones on this house are too small (as are the ones on most McMansions because it seems people love GIANT windows), but don't MOST homes have fake shutters?

Surely you don't suggest someone put REAL shutters on their house, do you? Unless you live in hurricane or tornado country, seems unnecessary.

And having nothing on the sides of the windows looks more out of place/"naked" to me than even the small, fake, shutters. I took a look at the houses in my block and they have either fake shutters, or nothing. The ones with nothing look worse.

So what is one supposed to put on the side of their windows? :confused:

The clearly fake shutters that don't even match the size of the window just look wrong and ugly. Even if they're fake they should at least look like they would actually cover the whole window.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

DrBouvenstein posted:

don't MOST homes have fake shutters?

lol no

Sorry you live in a town with no taste.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


you put trim or casing or nothing around the windows. fake shutters are tacky as hell and that's on my list of dumb crap to fix about my house this spring.

real shutters are cool but pretty unnecessary aside from aesthetic purposes these days.

Neutrino
Mar 8, 2006

Fallen Rib

DrBouvenstein posted:

What's with the hate for fake shutters? Obviously, the ones on this house are too small (as are the ones on most McMansions because it seems people love GIANT windows), but don't MOST homes have fake shutters?

Surely you don't suggest someone put REAL shutters on their house, do you? Unless you live in hurricane or tornado country, seems unnecessary.

And having nothing on the sides of the windows looks more out of place/"naked" to me than even the small, fake, shutters. I took a look at the houses in my block and they have either fake shutters, or nothing. The ones with nothing look worse.

So what is one supposed to put on the side of their windows? :confused:

If it's a colonial style house, yes put shutters on them. If you have money to burn then put real shutters on them. The cost for real functional shutters isn't much. If you are putting plastic Menards glue-on shutters or even crappy painted pallets then your house can look no worse than if you left them off. FWIW, colonial-style homes are poo poo. The style of this house is a saltbox-style bungalow. The original saltbox homes sometimes had shutters and sometimes didn't. Bungalows never had shutters.


Functional shutters on a colonial-style house.

Neutrino fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 26, 2017

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


WHY THOUGH

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

The duct warms the cold water in the pipe during winter, and the cold pipe helps cool the air in summer.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

A plumber could have easily routed around the ducting so my bet is that this is the work of whoever ran the ducts, and the pipes were there first.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Bad Munki posted:

WHY THOUGH

I'm not going back to Lowe's again. gently caress it!

High Lord Elbow
Jun 21, 2013

"You can sit next to Elvira."

The Bloop posted:

I'm not going back to Lowe's again. gently caress it!

New thread title? Because this describes every half-rear end homeowner-implemented fuckup I've ever seen (or done).

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

yes except substitute walmart for lowes

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Leperflesh posted:

We removed a tall tree that was against the foundation a few years ago. Now every winter the soil or clay or whatever under where the tree was swells a bit and the entire foundation along that part of the house lifts a fraction of an inch. Just enough to cause some cracks inside, nothing dangerous but it's really annoying.

What I'm getting at is if you removed the roots you may need to do more to compact the earth or something. Also keep in mind the dead roots might attract termites.

Seriously gently caress previous owners who plant trees up against houses, god.

My house has two coastal redwoods inches away, and several others a few feet away past those. They've been there since the 30's though, so fingers crossed they're basically stable at this point...

Nice thing with redwoods is the branches are pretty small so even if one gets dropped it won't necessarily destroy the building. If the tree itself starts to lean tho...

Dr. Garbanzo posted:

The house that I rent is becoming a crappy construction tale and will continue to get worse as time goes on. When we first moved in the towel rails fell off the wall in the bathroom but that is small bikkies compared to what has happened since then. The shower stall was never fitted properly so it leaks into the wall outside of it. On top of that all of the silicone in the shower has a nasty case of mould and the owners won't fix it because it cost money. On top of that the bath decided that leaking out of the gap between the tile and the bath was a good idea. I'd fix it myself but this poo poo isn't mine and son't give enough of a gently caress to bother fixing the crumbling shack that I call a home at this point in time.

Reasons to avoid buying former rentals in a nutshell


Zip tie? Shameful. Should've used a velcro strap.

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.

Progressive JPEG posted:

My house has two coastal redwoods inches away, and several others a few feet away past those. They've been there since the 30's though, so fingers crossed they're basically stable at this point...

Nice thing with redwoods is the branches are pretty small so even if one gets dropped it won't necessarily destroy the building. If the tree itself starts to lean tho...


It isn't the stuff above the ground that causes serious issues...

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Progressive JPEG posted:

My house has two coastal redwoods inches away, and several others a few feet away past those. They've been there since the 30's though, so fingers crossed they're basically stable at this point...

Nice thing with redwoods is the branches are pretty small so even if one gets dropped it won't necessarily destroy the building. If the tree itself starts to lean tho...

Redwood trees just keep growing forever. Those trees are eventually going to destroy your foundation, sorry.

They are also massive water hogs and the first six to eight feet of trunk off the bottom of the ground hold hundreds and hundreds of gallons of water. This is why redwood trees are always logged like 8 feet off the ground, if you cut them lower they kind of explode and splinter as they tip over. Anyway it might be the case that since they're sucking up every drop of water available, you're not seeing much seasonal shifting in the soil under your foundation. But the root system of a mature redwood tree is pretty big and wide and eventually I think destruction of your foundation is inevitable.

Talk to a foundation specialist and an arborist, though. Maybe something can be done.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Don't redwood root systems specifically grow not deep, but massively wide, to boot? So even if it weren't right next to your house, it's gonna have roots under the whole drat thing regardless.

ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012


I've actually seen this in a commercial construction job. Tight ceilings in a skywalk and an owner with more more money than sense, the fire protection sprinklers were dropped through the ducts.

ambient oatmeal fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 27, 2017

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


DrBouvenstein posted:

Quick question, because I see this complaint a LOT around here:

What's with the hate for fake shutters? Obviously, the ones on this house are too small (as are the ones on most McMansions because it seems people love GIANT windows), but don't MOST homes have fake shutters?

Surely you don't suggest someone put REAL shutters on their house, do you? Unless you live in hurricane or tornado country, seems unnecessary.

And having nothing on the sides of the windows looks more out of place/"naked" to me than even the small, fake, shutters. I took a look at the houses in my block and they have either fake shutters, or nothing. The ones with nothing look worse.

So what is one supposed to put on the side of their windows? :confused:

I also don't get it. I would say 85% of houses in the DC area have them. They look pretty normal to me.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

glynnenstein posted:

I also don't get it. I would say 85% of houses in the DC area have them. They look pretty normal to me.

Imagine a gigantic fat man with a tiny bowler hat. Funny, eh? Now your house is the fat man and the hat is the shutters that can't cover the windows, even if they weren't fake.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


lots of homes have them, doesn't mean it's not tacky

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Here just read this
http://www.mcmansionhell.com/post/149622740651/mcmansions-101-windows

quote:

Shutters:
- should fit over the window (e.g. if you were to close the shutters they would actually cover the window as intended)
- should NOT be placed outside or set back from the window casing/trim
- should compliment the color/style schemes of the elevation.

Plenty of houses have shutters that meet all the above critera, even if they're not real, and they're fine. Some building styles basically require shutters in order to look right.

But boy howdy are there a lot that get it wrong.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe




Somebody employs solder the way porn features jizz.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
That's not solder. That's that plumbing repair tape that you wet and it cures after application. :stonk:

As an aside, you can always tell when a HVAC guy does plumbing. The HVAC guys don't wipe the solder joint down, leaving a small drip of solder. The plumbers usually always have a wet rag, and wipe the freshly soldered joint smooth.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I've seen loads of plumbers just leaving the drip.

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


As an HVAC Guy, IF I have to do plumbing I use either sharkbites or just brazing rod.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Leperflesh posted:

I've seen loads of plumbers just leaving the drip.
Are we still talking about porn?

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The house next to mine is a rental with ownership split twelve ways in multiple estate hell and there are 9 now sizable oaks growing inches away from it and maybe 15-20' from my house. Every day I pray to god that it and everyone involved spontaneously combusts.

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BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

shame on an IGA posted:

The house next to mine is a rental with ownership split twelve ways in multiple estate hell and there are 9 now sizable oaks growing inches away from it and maybe 15-20' from my house. Every day I pray to god that it and everyone involved spontaneously combusts.

I will pray with you. Here's hoping the spaghetti monster does requests.

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