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Munchables
Feb 8, 2015

Ask/tell me about legal cannibalism

Holy fuckamoli

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

http://www.wweek.com/news/city/2017...he-whole-story/ posted:

Before her Feb. 2 testimony, Eudaly seemed to warn herself against using a personal story as political grist. "As former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich recently said, 'Governing by anecdote is not governing. It's demagoguery.' And it's been disappointing and frustrating to witness opponents to tenant protections…resort to playing on the public's emotions and prejudices, rather than basing their positions on facts."

She paused, then continued: "But I'm going to share a personal anecdote today with you anyway."
Chloe Eudaly isn't looking too great these days.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
The case against Ed Murray is gonna be weird:

quote:

On April 11, Bob Sulkin, Murray’s attorney, released a doctor’s report the defense team says disproves a claim in D.H.’s civil lawsuit that said the mayor had a “unique mole on his scrotum” at the time of the alleged assaults. The report says Murray has no moles, freckles, or other marks or bumps on his genitals and no signs of such marks or bumps being removed. “This is the heart of the case. This is what they were pushing at. What does he have left?” Sulkin said, insinuating that D.H.’s lawsuit should be dead on arrival.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
A glorious, unblemished scrotum for Seattle mayor.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
PNW Thread: mayor nuts and train jails

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
A pair of smooth criminals down under

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*

anthonypants posted:

Chloe Eudaly isn't looking too great these days.

She championed, and got passed, the measure to make landlords pony up relocation costs for no cause evictions .http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/02/portland_landlords_must_pay_re.html


That was both cool and good according to this cool and good poster.

DevNull
Apr 4, 2007

And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly

Washington democrats are doing the job of the Washington republicans by reducing the cost of licensing your car to try to kill ST3.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2201&Year=2017

They claim that republicans were going to pass worse, so they had to pass this to keep the republican bill from passing. Republicans could threaten to cut off your head, democrats would instead cut off both your arms and act like they were doing you a huge favor.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

DevNull posted:

Washington democrats are doing the job of the Washington republicans by reducing the cost of licensing your car to try to kill ST3.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2201&Year=2017

They claim that republicans were going to pass worse, so they had to pass this to keep the republican bill from passing. Republicans could threaten to cut off your head, democrats would instead cut off both your arms and act like they were doing you a huge favor.

This seems like the kind of thing that is going to cause the Democrats to lose ground to Socialist alternatives.

The good news is that this will push the Dems nationally left and will be more effective if we just keep playing by PNW rules and don't let the national democrats decide our behavior and policy.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

The Puppy Bowl posted:

She championed, and got passed, the measure to make landlords pony up relocation costs for no cause evictions .http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/02/portland_landlords_must_pay_re.html


That was both cool and good according to this cool and good poster.
And then the landlords sued, and then the city moved the case to federal court, and the federal court said it had nothing to do with federal law and moved it back down to a local court. This is good! This is what she said she'd do. It's nice. We'll see if it the court holds it up. There's also a no-cause eviction ban bill which passed the state House last week and which might also lift a ban on rent control, but I don't think Chloe Eudaly has a lot to do with that.

As for the negative things she's done, she's a big fan of that anti-protest ordinance because those uppity poors just wouldn't shut up for five seconds in the city council meetings about cops murdering black kids. Which, if you think about it, maybe isn't that great. That, plus the recent discovery of the truth behind her story, seems to indicate to me that maybe she's not as left as we'd all like her to be. And you don't have to be very far to the left to hate landlords.

As for the neutral things she's done, she's kicked out the bureau directors for the Office of Neighborhood Involvement and Development Services. We'll see how those play out.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

anthonypants posted:

As for the negative things she's done, she's a big fan of that anti-protest ordinance because those uppity poors just wouldn't shut up for five seconds in the city council meetings about cops murdering black kids. Which, if you think about it, maybe isn't that great. That, plus the recent discovery of the truth behind her story, seems to indicate to me that maybe she's not as left as we'd all like her to be. And you don't have to be very far to the left to hate landlords.

Her support for the anti-protest ordinance really jaded my previously strongly positive feelings towards her. I'm not surprised that someone who grew up privileged af (Wheeler) would buy into respectability politics, but I've observed Commissioner Eudaly interact with marginalized groups in a more understanding way, so it was a big let-down.

The "truth" behind her story is really dumb and doesn't even change the point of her anecdote. And a reminder that the WW journo who dug up the dirt is the same one who wrote the sympathetic puff piece on noted sexual predator Hart Noecker.

E: the dumb part isn't the story or events themselves, just the pointless pearl-clutching this GRAND REVEAL has kicked off

SyHopeful fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Apr 13, 2017

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

SyHopeful posted:

And a reminder that the WW journo who dug up the dirt is the same one who wrote the sympathetic puff piece on noted sexual predator Hart Noecker.

we call him fart knocker.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Earl Blumenauer did a hilarious thing http://thehill.com/homenews/house/329206-house-democrat-introduces-bill-to-amend-presidential-removal-procedures

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
There's apparently a group of Seattle police who stream Destiny on Twitch http://www.geekwire.com/2017/now-streaming-twitch-seattle-police-blast-aliens-take-questions-playing-games/

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

I'm listening to this episode right now. The concept sounds really silly, but it's pretty informative. There's a great discussion about open data and bias/hate crime early on for instance. I know it's not going to address the huge issues by itself, but when I think about creative community policing, this fits well within that portfolio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6tQtVw3WTk

Schwack
Jan 31, 2003

Someone needs to stop this! Sherman has lost his mind! Peyton is completely unable to defend himself out there!

anthonypants posted:

And then the landlords sued, and then the city moved the case to federal court, and the federal court said it had nothing to do with federal law and moved it back down to a local court. This is good! This is what she said she'd do. It's nice. We'll see if it the court holds it up. There's also a no-cause eviction ban bill which passed the state House last week and which might also lift a ban on rent control, but I don't think Chloe Eudaly has a lot to do with that.

As for the negative things she's done, she's a big fan of that anti-protest ordinance because those uppity poors just wouldn't shut up for five seconds in the city council meetings about cops murdering black kids. Which, if you think about it, maybe isn't that great. That, plus the recent discovery of the truth behind her story, seems to indicate to me that maybe she's not as left as we'd all like her to be. And you don't have to be very far to the left to hate landlords.

As for the neutral things she's done, she's kicked out the bureau directors for the Office of Neighborhood Involvement and Development Services. We'll see how those play out.

Some folks I know who are associated with the county are thrilled she canned the ONI director. Apparently, things were a poo poo show within that department. Same for the dude from Development Services. His department has a decade+ long history of being inefficient, impossible to work with and hostile toward women.

That stuff about her personal story is disappointing as hell, but other than that dumb mistake + double down I think she's doing pretty well.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
I'm ignorant of Eudaly's background (other than she ran a book store) and any lies she told about said background. Anyone care to clue me in?

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

The Puppy Bowl posted:

I'm ignorant of Eudaly's background (other than she ran a book store) and any lies she told about said background. Anyone care to clue me in?

It's really dumb, she told an anecdote about how her father died in a car accident on his way back from a rental property he owned that had been damaged by tenants. The part she omitted was that he was apparently intoxicated and caused the accident himself.

In the context of the anecdote it wasn't relevant, but apparently some people nutted themselves over doing some Real Journalism.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

The Puppy Bowl posted:

I'm ignorant of Eudaly's background (other than she ran a book store) and any lies she told about said background. Anyone care to clue me in?
I made a post about it and you quoted that post.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
woah poo poo https://twitter.com/ChristopOConnor/status/855100301178687488

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017


This is a pretty interesting case, reading the included pdf. The Oregon Supreme Court seems annoyed at the other court rulings since they played word games(they equated 'peaceful resistance' and 'noncooperation', wtf) to come to their own preconceived notions.
I think the Oregon Supreme Court interpreted this law correctly, looks good.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
That's pretty awesome. I guess we'll see if the city abides by the ruling or finds a way around it.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Incidentally, yesterday the Mercury posted a report on Trump protestors and how most of the time charges get dropped. One guy's apparently still facing rioting charges.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

SyHopeful posted:

It's really dumb, she told an anecdote about how her father died in a car accident on his way back from a rental property he owned that had been damaged by tenants. The part she omitted was that he was apparently intoxicated and caused the accident himself.

In the context of the anecdote it wasn't relevant, but apparently some people nutted themselves over doing some Real Journalism.

Yeah, it seems like a non-issue even if it is embarrassing. Also Willy Week has always been pretty much a libertarian storm-drain clogger.

I really don't see a reason to replace Eudaly considering the rest of the council is far worse and most it runs unopposed.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Ardennes posted:

Yeah, it seems like a non-issue even if it is embarrassing. Also Willy Week has always been pretty much a libertarian storm-drain clogger.

I really don't see a reason to replace Eudaly considering the rest of the council is far worse and most it runs unopposed.
She's out of campaign promises, so she'd better shape up if she wants to keep her seat from Novick.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35517272-75/neo-nazis-antifa-protesters-exchange-shouts-in-springfield.html.csp

quote:

Local self-professed neo-Nazi Jimmy Marr and about eight of his supporters exchanged taunts and slogans Monday night with 30 to 40 “Antifa” counter­demonstrators, who squared off on opposite sides of G Street in Springfield.

Death to fascists.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
It seems like public employee pensions and healthcare are the main targets for cuts to get Oregon's budget in the black. http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/04/oregon_budget_writers_unveil_p.html

Not surprising since measure 97 was essentially the showdown between public employees and wealthy corporations to see who would foot the bill, and the corporations threw enough money at the vote to have things go their way. It's still really disappointing to see that betraying agreements made to public employee unions is the acceptable sacrifice to make for a Dem run government.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
Democrats hate the working class, news at 11.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
It's amazing how much people hate PERS. A cool thing to do, imo, would be to allow non-public employees to contribute to it, but that'll never get off the ground. Similarly, Chloe Eudaly wants to make a city of Portland-owned bank, for some reason.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!
Yeah, speaking as a public employee the uncertainty as to what the hell is happening with my retirement is pretty infuriating. It's also not great that I haven't heard a ton of noise from SEIU trying to get us ruled up about it, just a few emails asking us to write our reps.

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

anthonypants posted:

It's amazing how much people hate PERS. A cool thing to do, imo, would be to allow non-public employees to contribute to it, but that'll never get off the ground. Similarly, Chloe Eudaly wants to make a city of Portland-owned bank, for some reason.

I'm into this bank thing.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Lazy_Liberal posted:

I'm into this bank thing.
it wouldn't be for you, it would be for "small" "businesses"

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

anthonypants posted:

it wouldn't be for you, it would be for "small" "businesses"

Just incorporate your person.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Whats the state of credit unions in Oregon?

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

anthonypants posted:

it wouldn't be for you, it would be for "small" "businesses"

aw dangit. what about making post offices banks for the people?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Jack2142 posted:

Just incorporate your person.
I, anthony:pants, am a flesh-and-blood person and not the corporate shell, "ANTHONY PANTS".

BlueBlazer
Apr 1, 2010

Lazy_Liberal posted:

aw dangit. what about making post offices banks for the people?

Also the post office should supply citizen emails from your soc. You get all your bureaucracy through the portal.

The post office could be so much more awesome than it is today.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

BlueBlazer posted:

Also the post office should supply citizen emails from your soc. You get all your bureaucracy through the portal.

The post office could be so much more awesome than it is today.

*gazes warily across the parking lot from another government building at a post office*

I'm not sure I trust the feds with something more analog than paper.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
The first thing post offices need is to have their funding level restored, and not giving postal workers more things to do.

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RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Agreed, the darkness that emanates from that place is the stink of depreciation, not lack of purpose.

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