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MononcQc posted:They mostly don't really need to on any daily basis? And when they do it's everyone else's fault for not speaking French, even when the other person is in a different province or country.
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Aphrodite posted:And when they do it's everyone else's fault for not speaking French, even when the other person is in a different province or country. Much like English speakers abroad 
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If you don't learn the primary language of the species that's on you, Frenchie.
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Aphrodite posted:And when they do it's everyone else's fault for not speaking French, even when the other person is in a different province or country. The cases where people mostly make a big deal out of this is when they're in another province but end up faced with an English-only federal function (like customs and whatnot), or in some special cases like Air Canada, which, when it got privatized, kept some of its federal obligations like staying bilingual. I'd tell you in practice I've seen more Quebecois coworkers mad when you have 12 francophones in a meeting and a single anglophone, and everyone in there switches to English instantly. The old 'pur et durs' that really get angry the moment they hear English no matter what context tend to be people from older generations where that was the normal behaviour.
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Aphrodite posted:If you don't learn the primary language of the species that's on you, Frenchie. Mandarin?
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Xtanstic posted:A lot of development is due to bad AHL coaching, bad organizational philosophy and bad organizational priorities. A lot of this I dump on Bergevin and his culture and character bullshit. This. Bergevin is still stuck in Old Time Hockey era and hung up on character poo poo and it shows. Trades away skill players like Andrighetto and loads up on grinders for depth. Not giving players like Hudon and Carr, who actually do make significant contributions to offense, any opportunities but rather giving those roster spots to Dwight King and Steve loving Ott. I'm still pinning all the lovely drafting on Bergevin rather than Timmins.
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iospace posted:How long will the FIRE JULIEN chants start from has? Weh, for now we like him. The team plays less like a garbage fire that needs Carey to bail it out most nights. Therrien had the magic bounce when the Habs made it to the ECF that one year, and they played a fast, energetic game that took everyone by surprise, but I don't think Julien is going to lose HAS' support for another year or two. stab posted:words You listed Scherbak twice and Hudon is a) probably going to get an extended crack at the NHL next year (unless he's the new Gabe Dumont) and b) probably not less than a 3rd line scoring winger. For *far too long* the Habs have viewed themselves as being deficient in bottom-6 defensively responsible forwards and defensively responsible d-men. A lot of this can be explained away by "the system Michel Therrien used was 'collapse to the net, don't let them get easy shots, Carey will do the rest'" and a little bit of "PK Subban isn't responsible with the Puck! Galchenyuk can't win faceoffs! Plekanec and Markov are getting older!". Basically what I'm saying is, Trevor Timmins doesn't dictate what the team drafts, and based on how speculative the late round pickups have been, I'd be guessing Bergevin basically lets him pick and choose who he wants in the 4th and 5th rounds. Kilza posted:I'm guessing if Bergevin was to get fired Julien Brisebois (Tampa's AGM) would be the popular choice to replace him, which seems like it'd be an improvement. Of course, there's also the comedy option of Patrick Roy. I doubt Roy comes in if there's a coach. Roy comes in if it's a "blow it all up scenario", because he wants to have a large say in what the GM does, while being the coach. I think this coming year is Bergevin's last chance. This just passed year was an "all in year" that got complicated by a month long fall-off and there being no real "targets" for rentals Bergevin might have gone in for. If they're tumbling down the stretch in January again, there's gonna be some real heat on Bergevin, and if they get bounced in the first round (regardless of how absurdly unfair it is that they have to play the team that finished 4th in conference) I really do think he's gone. This time. ThinkTank posted:Randy Cunneyworth was installed on an interim basis about five years ago and he didn't speak French. He was never a full time head coach though. Wasn't Cunneyworth staggeringly unpopular? Doesn't Montreal alone account for 9/100 of those English speakers in Quebec (and most of the bilingual persons too)? (worth noting, a lot of Quebecers in the East, who are definitely monolingual french, of the state will never ever support the Canadiens because they are Nordiques 100%... still) Also, Qubecois Joual is disgusting, and someone should put an end to it.
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Suspicious posted:"Pick the best francophone(s) available in the draft" used to be a thing, at least for the first rounds anyway. Now it's "pick the best players available, who cares what language they speak." When he was still really enthusiastic about hockey, I watched the draft every year with my dad. One of my most vivid memories was Bob McKenzie remarking that Montreal was really happy with their first 2 rounds, because they got Brad Brown with their 1st pick but were still able to get a French-Canadian player with their next pick. AT the time I didn't understand why that was important, I just figured every team tried to go for BPA according to their judgement, anyways.. Keep in mind I was 11 at the time. In Montreal's defence, the player in question was Jose Theodore. However, they also picked Brad Brown. He wasn't even the best player named Brown available! Curtis Brown went #43 to Buffalo. OTOH, the bets player my guys drafted was Mike goddamned Peluso.
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Schlesische posted:Also, Qubecois Joual is disgusting, and someone should put an end to it. 
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MononcQc posted:Them's fightin' words Va chier osti
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ThinkTank posted:Yeah, plus the Habs are a business and understanding and effectively communicating with your key demographics is integral to the success of any commercial enterprise. There's a reason that Apple's keystone address is delivered in English each year and not Tagalog. this is a pretty ridiculous comparison imo
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The secret is they all speak English and simply refuse to.
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I've been looking at the UFA list and since I know Shattenkirk won't even consider Calgary, I think I want Del Zotto, Daley, and for Calgary to re-sign Stone. I guess they're pretty keen to sign Ben Bishop too, hopefully they re-sign Chad Johnson if that's the case, or Scott Darling.
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Xtanstic posted:Va chier osti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiNoNqYXMA C'est mon hymne national!
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Nikita Kucherov had an interview with Sovetsky Sport where he got real for a second: https://twitter.com/smdemidov/status/857263439814815745 https://twitter.com/smdemidov/status/857263544080969728
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everybody seems to be assuming the guy kucherov is talking about in the second quote is alex killorn e: since only one of these teams is still in the playoffs i'll post it here, your jack adams award finalists: https://twitter.com/NHL/status/857371838531371010
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https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/857370022720794624 Congrats to your Jack Adams winner John Tortorella.
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The Dirty Burger posted:Nikita Kucherov had an interview with Sovetsky Sport where he got real for a second:
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The Dirty Burger posted:Nikita Kucherov had an interview with Sovetsky Sport where he got real for a second: Who's he making GBS threads on here? Filppula? Callahan?
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/857370022720794624 There's no chance in hell Babcock doesn't win this
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It's killorn. Killorn just got paid and he bad. But don't think that palat and Johnson didn't get some shade too. Filpulla actually had a decent year for himself. Kucherov is handsome and can say whatever he wants. So it is written so it shall be done.
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Kucherov is heroic and I will shield him from the 8 million dumb remarks thrown his way.  Wonderllama posted:It's killorn. Killorn just got paid and he bad. But don't think that palat and Johnson didn't get some shade too. Filpulla actually had a decent year for himself. Kucherov is handsome and can say whatever he wants. So it is written so it shall be done. Yeah this seems to back it up. 3 peopled got a deal last summer: Stamkos, Killorn and Hedman. It's easy to eliminate 2 of those 3. http://www.rawcharge.com/2017/4/26/...-hedman-killorn MononcQc posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiNoNqYXMA Hey that was not bad
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Killorn's season was basically the same as last year, which is only bad because he wasn't able to do anything with the extra minute and a half per night (because he isn't a first line player). 
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I've been looking at the UFA list and since I know Shattenkirk won't even consider Calgary, I think I want Del Zotto, Daley, and for Calgary to re-sign Stone. I guess they're pretty keen to sign Ben Bishop too, hopefully they re-sign Chad Johnson if that's the case, or Scott Darling. I don't know what the flying gently caress they do up front, but I want: Gio-Hamilton Stone-Brodie Kylington/Andersson - Engelland (he rules) Bishop/MAF/anyone not named Bryan Elliott Gillies I also pray Troy Brouwer disappears.
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Oh look I'm loving angry at Bergevin all over again.
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Martytoof posted:Oh look I'm loving angry at Bergevin all over again. I, on the other hand, finally... FINALLY hit the acceptance stage I think.
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"B-b-but I don't see the difference in their skating when I watch." - some idiot on the CBC
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quote:9. ESPN.com’s Craig Custance reported Buffalo may have interest in Arizona’s John Chayka. That one took me by surprise, but Custance doesn’t just throw garbage at the wall and I think he’s on to something. That says he’s a legit contender, if the Coyotes allow permission. https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/857404282257129472 what a weird thing to even put out there
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hifi posted:https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/857404282257129472 Wouldn't Arizona have to you know, fire him first?
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Maybe they think this is some kind of Franchise mode maneuver in the NHL games and you just gently caress with the AI sliders and you can treat other teams like poo poo and get what you want?
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yellowcar posted:Wouldn't Arizona have to you know, fire him first? also why would a team looking for experience want a 27 year old who's had one year on the job and is still in the process of turning around a bad team
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Pornographic Memory posted:also why would a team looking for experience want a 27 year old who's had one year on the job and is still in the process of turning around a bad team Making Montreal take John Scott is pretty impressive. ... then again, Bergevin.
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stab posted:aka the summer that sent the franchise back Never forget 
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MononcQc posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiNoNqYXMA Don't want to let that Tab'Halak shirt at the end pass without comment.
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Pornographic Memory posted:also why would a team looking for experience want a 27 year old who's had one year on the job and is still in the process of turning around a bad team If I was in Chayka's position I'd probably also want to see my own rebuild through, and I'd rather live in Phoenix than Buffalo.
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Suspicious posted:Right now we're at "pick the best francophone(s) available for coach/GM". Could we please just fast forward to the inevitable second part? But Colorado already has a hockey team.
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