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Davin Valkri posted:It looks like we're not doing an aircraft buy, and the last time I made a plan nobody even gave me the time of day. I might still make one later, though! We'll be doing one after this mission.
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Bacarruda posted:Psawhn would you be open to modifying the Black Diamond CAS, CAP, and tanker plan and combining it with a beefed-up Falafel Ranger? Loel posted:Plan Baccaruda PenguinSalsa posted:Let's follow up the last op with a Falafel Delivery with Bacarruda's additions. (Bulgarian Takeout?)  Let's give this thing a name. Since we're taking out an SA-10 Grumble...Operation Grognard I've mixed together the successful elements of Black Diamond (the CAP, Tanker, and CAS plan) and the core of the Falafel Ranger SEAD plan. We kill the S-300, kill the Tunguskas and other SHORAD. Then we roll in our strikers and beat the Bulgarians into a fine powder.  Objectives: 1. Provide CAS for 3rd, 5th, and 19th Regiments. Destroy Bulgarians armor, mechanized infantry, and SPAA 2. Destroy the S-300 3. Destroy Angolan Air Force aircraft threatening our strikers ROE and Flight Restrictions 1. Do NOT cross the border. This is a No-Fly Zone [NOTE: Yooper, I'll leave it up to you on how to implement this. If a literal No-Fly zone is too much trouble, then use Prosecution Areas, Patrol Areas or manual control to stop aircraft adventuring too far north]. There is a small area north of the border CAS aircraft can enter. 2. Ground engagement zone for all CAS aircraft is the red squares. Do not engage any targets outside of this area. Note: Phantoms may fire on air targets outside this area. 3. All military vehicles and aircraft north of the border are hostile. Shoot on sight. 4. Fire if fired upon. 5. Fire on anything shooting friendlies. EMCON 1. S 100B Argus: radar on. 2. Fighters: radars off unless the S 100B has IDed a target for you, you've passed the ROE checks and and you are trying to get a firing solution. 3. All aircraft: jammers off unless enemy radars are detected. Sub-proposal: "Falafel Ranger+" (S-300 Strike) Included Platforms: 1x EA-6B Prowler 2x Tornado IDS 2x JAS 39C Gripen 1x Sperwer UAV, "Weekend Wrapper" Precise GPS coordinates are needed to launch small diameter glide bombs at the target. If we had good satellite or ground intel we could have used that, but we have to make do. We'll send out the UAV on a one-way recon mission to get fix needed to strike the target. Mission: 1.Recon the S-300 in order to determine its precise GPS coordinates. 2. Accomplish the recon mission at all costs. Do not RTB when bingo unless the recon mission is already complete. Flight Plan: 1. If forward truck-based deployment is available, use that to stage close to the front line: https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataFacility?ID=483. Otherwise, loiter at a convenient location. 2. Wait until ELINT discovers the approximate location of the S-300 site. 3. If the S-300 site has not been visually spotted by other assets, attempt to gain visual recon of the SAM site. Fly at minimum altitude. Avoid all locations of known hostile units. DO NOT ENTER TUNGUKSA OR SA-8 range. Use terrain masking if geography permits. 4. RTB on bingo fuel OR as soon as the S-300 site is located. 1x EA-6B Prowler, "Jam Sandwich" Loadout: AGM-88 HARM, Short range (1x AGM-99, 4x OECM Pods) Mission: 1. Provide offensive ECM escort to the strike package to the S-300. 2. Fire off carried HARM at the S-300 site to force expenditure of munitions. Flight Plan: 1. Loiter near tanker assets. 2. Wait until "Weekend Wrapper" UAV discovers precise coordinates of the S-300 site. 3. Top off fuel tanks before proceeding with mission. 4. Select an appropriate ingress vector, and proceed with mission. 5. Ingress at military power (520 knots). 6. At maximum weapons range from target (70 nmi), fire off anti-radiation missile at the S-300 site. 7. Continue to provide OECM support for strike package on further ingress and egress. 2x Tornado IDS, "Gooseberry." Loadout: AGM-88 HARM. (2x HARM, 2x IRIS-T, DECM Pod, 2x Drop Tank) Mission: 1. Fire off carried HARM at the S-300 site to force expenditure of munitions. Flight Plan: 1. Loiter near tanker assets. 2. Wait until "Weekend Wrapper" UAV discovers precise coordinates of the S-300 site. 3. Top off fuel tanks before proceeding with mission. 4. Select an appropriate ingress vector, and proceed with mission. 5. Ingress at military power (520 knots). 6. At maximum weapons range from target (70 nmi), fire off anti-radiation missiles at the S-300 site. 7. Egress along the SAM-Prowler bearing that's covered by OECM. 2x JAS 39C Gripen, "Binge Eater." Loadout: GBU-39 SDB, Long Range (8x GBU-39 SDB, 2x IRIS-T, 1x Litening III Pod, 3x Drop Tank) 1. Destroy the S-300 site by overloading its defense capability. Flight Plan: 1. Loiter near tanker assets. 2. Wait until "Weekend Wrapper" UAV discovers precise coordinates of the S-300 site. 3. Top off fuel tanks before proceeding with mission. 4. Select an appropriate ingress vector, and proceed with mission. 5. Ingress at military power (520 knots). 6. At maximum weapons range from target (60 nmi), fire off all available munitions at the S-300 site as quickly as possible. (Yooper, I think you need to use Shift-F1 to manually force them to launch all their SDBs.) 7. Egress along the SAM-Prowler bearing that's covered by OECM. [/quote] -- Close Air Support Jackpot Flight Eight F-4 Phantoms, each with: -Two GBU-24A 2,000lb laser-guided bombs, two AIM-120 AMRAAMs, a Litening targeting pod, and a AN/ALQ-119 jamming pod. Mission: 1) Only once the S-300 is down, destroy Bulgarian ground forces from 30,000+ feet, focusing on SPAA, SAMs, and AAA. If these are destroyed, focus on Armor --> Mech Infantry --> Infantry. 2) Provide High CAP during the light striker's attacks AND if the Gripens are tanking. 3) RTB, Quick Turnaround, re-arm and make another attack. Do not attempt a second attack unless we still have air superiority. Toad Flight Two Su-25 Frogfoot A, each with: -Sixteen AT-16 Scallion (9K121 Vikhr) anti-tank missiles* and two AA-8 Aphid air-to-air missiles. Mission: 1) Only once the S-300 and SPAA are down, destroy the Bulgarian ground forces at maximum engagement altitude,, focusing on AA --> tanks --> mech infantry --> infantry. 2) RTB, Quick Turnaround, re-arm and make another attack. Do not attempt a second attack unless we still have superiority. Avenger One Hawk 209, with -Two AGM-65G Maverick anti-tank missiles, two AIM-9P Sidewinder Mission: 1) Only once the S-300 and SPAA are down, destroy the Bulgarian ground forces at maximum engagement altitude, focusing on AA --> tanks --> mech infantry --> infantry. 2) RTB, Quick Turnaround, re-arm and make another attack. Do not attempt a second attack unless we still have superiority. Dragonslayer Flight Six SK60B, each with: -Twelve M/70 135mm rockets. Mission: 1)Only once the S-300 and SPAA are down, destroy the Bulgarian ground forces, focusing on AA --> Fixed installations --> tanks --> mech infantry --> infantry. . Only enter the area if all AA threats are cleared and no enemy fighters threaten you. Otherwise, RTB and abort. 2) RTB, Quick Turnaround, re-arm and make another attack. Do not attempt a second attack unless we still have superiority. UAVs Meat One MQ-9 Reaper, with: -Two Gorgon Stare IR/EO pods Mission: 1) Locate Bulgarian ground forces and AA assets. Fly at Max altitude. 2) Only if safe, help buddy-lase ground targets for the F-4Es. Air Superiority WEST CAP Flight Four JAS 39C Gripens, each with: A/A: Meteor, Max Intercept (Two IRIS-T missiles, four Meteor missiles) Mission: 1) Orbit Point WESTCAP. Only engage air targets in the West. EAST CAP Flight Two JAS 39C Gripens, each with: A/A: Meteor, Max Intercept (Two IRIS-T missiles, four Meteor missiles) Mission: 1) Orbit Point EASTCAP. Only Engage targets in the East. AEW&C Watchtower One S 100B Argus Mission: 1) Orbit south of the border, provide AEW&C for all aircraft. Tanker Big Pig One KC-135R Stratoanker Mission: 1) Hold at the Western fuel point, fuel all aircraft that need gas. Little Pig One VC-10 Mission: 2) Hold at the Eastern fuel point, fuel all aircraft that need gas. NOTE: USE TANKER ONLY WHEN 20% OF FUEL REMAINS. Bacarruda fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Yooper posted:Seeing as we live in an AynRandian fantasy land of PMC's and corporate wars... we can definitely buy tanks, armored vehicles, etc. Our suppliers are more than happy to assist. For a price. Once we've cleared up the issue of the Bulgarian advance we'll get a mid-term procurement round. Do they have any defectors from the armoured forces in their ranks? Obviously they don't have the vehicles, but if we're going to invent the new Angolan holiday of Tanksgiving, it'll help to have people who know how to use them well. Hell, I think just man-carried AT weapons and trucks would be a big improvement. Yooper posted:A guy in the MilHist thread did some awesome posts on the Iran/Iraq war and how Saddam had this absolutely terrible officer corps. He picked officers for political reliability, timidness, and incompetence. Then when he really needed quality people he didn't have any at all, like none. Saddam was too afraid of threats to his own power to allow anyone competent to come up. Sure we'd like to think of our Dictator as a rational individual, but in all likelihood he's not. Where we see an incompetent military he sees a safe military that won't drag his corpse behind a truck.
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Yvonmukluk posted:If nothing else, I expect this campaign may help us find out just how many ways man can be executed by animal. Scaphism leaps to mind.
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Quinntan posted:
Looks amazing! Loel posted:Just to see if Im doing this right... If we're thinking long-term, we should really be going after Hornets and Super Hornets for our next strike fighter buy. The Legacy Bugs are very affordable and carry a bevy of fantastic standoff weapons, HARMs, and top-notch AMRAAMs. Gripens are nice and I'd be happy if we got some. But after facing that S-300, I think we're going to need cruise missiles to pull off future deep strike missions. Quinntan posted:That'd be a wishlist if we'd like a billion. Instead, we've only 218m to play with I'd endorse this buy very happily. If we can get RAF Tornadoes IDSes, I'd be over the moon. Twelve Brimstone anti-tank missiles and two Storm Shadow cruise missiles!
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Yooper posted:A guy in the MilHist thread did some awesome posts on the Iran/Iraq war and how Saddam had this absolutely terrible officer corps. He picked officers for political reliability, timidness, and incompetence. Then when he really needed quality people he didn't have any at all, like none. Saddam was too afraid of threats to his own power to allow anyone competent to come up. Sure we'd like to think of our Dictator as a rational individual, but in all likelihood he's not. Where we see an incompetent military he sees a safe military that won't drag his corpse behind a truck. During the Six-Day War, Hafez Al-Assad (the father of Bashar) begged Syria's then-ruling strongman, Salah Jadid, to send the Syrian Army's two finest brigades - the 5th and the 70th - to the Golan Heights front to stop the Israeli advance. The Israelis were, at this point, done with the rest of the Arab coalition and smashing Syrians into a fine red mist. Jadid beat Assad up for just suggesting this, then told him one thing every dictator should know: The two brigades may have saved a few miles of dirt. But sending them out would have killed the regime. Dos Santos may be insane, and losing the war, but that does not mean his actions are not rational.
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4 Hornets (30m ea) 1 Growler (70m ea) 4 Tornado IDS (30m ea?) 1 MQ-9 (17m) (replace with avenger drone?) 1 SA-20 (115m?) 1 Iskander (120m?)  120+70+120+17+115+120= Someone plz give me 562 millions Loel fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Bacarruda posted:Let's give this thing a name. Since we're taking out an SA-10 Grumble...Operation Grognard I wouldn't use the Sperwer for this, it's slow as gently caress and our SDB carriers do retain their Litenings, which has the same range as the camera on the Sperwer.
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I'm down with Operation Grognard. Dealing with that S-300 is critical to future operations, but unless we flatten the Bulgarian advance they'll be sensually rubbing themselves all over our position, and I feel that this plan addresses both issues splendidly.
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Quinntan posted:I wouldn't use the Sperwer for this, it's slow as gently caress and our SDB carriers do retain their Litenings, which has the same range as the camera on the Sperwer. It's mostly there to provide backup coverage in case something happens to the Reaper or we have a period of time with no Litening podded aircraft overhead. That, and Psawhn had it in his original Falafel Plan.
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Quinntan posted:That'd be a wishlist if we'd like a billion. Instead, we've only 218m to play with Agreed. I'd choose a Growler over the Prowler if the price that Loel cited ($70m) is correct, but the Prowler has the additional advantage of a bigger crew which means more goons in the air. Edit: Let's go with Operation Grognard.
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PenguinSalsa posted:Ageed. The Growlers that came up last time were $95m each, that's why I discounted them.
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That, and we can use it as an impromptu missile against the Bulgarians! Like, if it's going to run out of fuel before reaching a base, can we just plow it into the enemy? It may not many munitions, but it'd still gently caress up a tank or BMP if we go kamikaze with it.
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Quinntan posted:The Growlers that came up last time were $95m each, that's why I discounted them. Thanks, then we're definitely buying a Prowler.
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Yvonmukluk posted:That, and we can use it as an impromptu missile against the Bulgarians! Like, if it's going to run out of fuel before reaching a base, can we just plow it into the enemy? It may not many munitions, but it'd still gently caress up a tank or BMP if we go kamikaze with it. Kamikaze aircraft are not modeled in game, only near-misses from actual munitions.
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Davin Valkri posted:Kamikaze aircraft are not modeled in game, only near-misses from actual munitions. Awww. Well, we could send it on a one-way scouting mission, then!
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 Operation Double the Numbers Operation Emerald Operation Grognard Operation Vengeance (By Circlmastr AKA Nails who luckily bailed out of his Hawk) Time to halt that armored advance and beat up that mean ole SA-10B. Yooper fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Can legacy Hornets carry the GBU-53, does anyone know?
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I already cast my vote for Operation Grognard further up this page.
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Dandywalken posted:Can legacy Hornets carry the GBU-53, does anyone know? No SDBs for the legacy bug.
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Well, that was quick! Operation Grognard sounds like a good call. One minor suggestion, though - on the off chance we wipe out the Bulgarians (outside odds, granted), should we set up contingencies for supporting one of the other flanks? I'm leaning towards the east, since it would let us cover our holdings there at the same time.
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Voting Operation Grognard.
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When can we expect this to be run, just wondering.
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Bacarruda posted:It's mostly there to provide backup coverage in case something happens to the Reaper or we have a period of time with no Litening podded aircraft overhead. The note about the sperwers seems to be a bit odd considering the current circumstances. Same for the reaper looking for diamond trucks.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well, that was quick! Good idea. I support contigency east.
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Game/LP mechanics question, in spoilers cause it might take away from the enjoyment of the LP How smart is the AI in this game? So far all they've done is suicidally charge into the fray, accomplishing nothing. Is this intentional on Yooper's part to simulate idiot adversaries? Would you have to do a lot of scripting to make them act differently?
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Apr 27, 2017 19:37
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I like Operation Grognard but why are we dividing our CAP with 4 to the west and 2 to the east?
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Erring towards Operation Grognard Also seconding the suggestion that contingency plans for diverting leftover forces to the east flank, if possible we could use the space. Rather not have to deal with another MLRS strike.
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If something is going to be puttering around enemy territory hoping to maybe catch a glimpse of the key enemy asset I definitely want it to be the Sperwer and not something actually important. Honestly at the price of those things we should get another four and consider them disposable.
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Dr. Snark posted:Erring towards Operation Grognard Apropos of nothing, I want a batallion of BM-21s
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Apr 27, 2017 19:59
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I'm fine with Grognard as it's practically the same thing as mine anyway ( ). I do still vote firing the HARMs at the Tunguska though. Might as well break all the dictator's toys while we're at it.
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Loel posted:Apropos of nothing, I want a batallion of BM-21s Our rockets will blot out the sun! Also, present day Angola fields 75. Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Grognard is winning, will we see a mission tonight?
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Maximum Grogginess (a.k.a. Operation Grognard)
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Operation Grognard but since we are loving up a bunch of Bulgarians we should name it Operation Nicopolis instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nicopolis
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power crystals posted:I'm fine with Grognard as it's practically the same thing as mine anyway ( Tunguskas can be destroyed by our Phantoms flying above their range envelope. Their missiles are command guided, not SARH, so HARMs won't help. Anyway, I'm good with Grognard, on two conditions. 1) Include plans to support the east. 2) We should name it Operation Stonehenge.
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