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Apr 27, 2017 22:27
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It's a reddit thing, it means "involuntary celibate" and it's a word used by angry men who can't get laid.
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Apr 27, 2017 22:32
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Martytoof posted:what is incel? An abbreviation the internet invented for Involuntarily Celibate because that is a thing and they are a proud movement(?)
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Apr 27, 2017 22:31
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Yeah except they're probably animate the recolored version and change all the characters to Americans voiced by John Cena and Roseanne Barr I checked my hardback copy and I have the original colours, woo  That recolour looks like trash. Also I should actually read my copy!
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Apr 27, 2017 22:34
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Hedrigall posted:An abbreviation the internet invented for Involuntarily Celibate because that is a thing and they are a proud movement(?) Naw, incels are angry that women won't give them sex. Volcels are voluntarily celibate but MGTOWs (Men Going Their Own Way) are MRAs who have decided to boycott women altogether. There's also heightcels, hicels, marcels, nearcels and noncels, see if you can guess what they all are! (I just looked all these up, I haven't memorised all these lovely bullshit names.)
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Apr 27, 2017 22:42
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what about Cel Shaded Graphics
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Apr 27, 2017 22:45
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:what about Cel Shaded Graphics Oh god, you don't even want to know. They're the worst. The worst.
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Apr 27, 2017 22:46
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Naw, incels are angry that women won't give them sex. Volcels are voluntarily celibate but MGTOWs (Men Going Their Own Way) are MRAs who have decided to boycott women altogether. What about Celda?
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Apr 27, 2017 22:48
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Jeez I didn't realise people on the internet take not having sex so seriously Let me guess, there's a subgrouping with its own terminology for people who can't have sex because the sole objects of their desires are fictional
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Apr 27, 2017 22:47
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so for some Disney gets a pass on being anti-semetic because he was a product of his era but C S Lewis and Tolkein can't get a pass on being colonialists and classist. double.standard.
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Apr 27, 2017 22:48
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starkebn posted:so for some Disney gets a pass on being anti-semetic because he was a product of his era but C S Lewis and Tolkein can't get a pass on being colonialists and classist. Because even for the era they're pretty assholish for that and it's not like Disney is putting himself on a higher moral ground, while CS Lewis does have a tendency to preach morality.
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Apr 27, 2017 22:52
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Waffleman_ posted:The InCelArts style is killing American animation.  from this post
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Apr 27, 2017 22:52
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Apr 27, 2017 22:56
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lol
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Apr 27, 2017 22:59
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I've seen that meme floating around and even before that response on tumblr came out I thought it was stupid. And frankly I love the way all those shows look. Star Vs, Steven Universe, Gumball and Gravity Falls all have such an appealing art style for me. It's especially funny because the meme cherry picks a bunch of really extreme poses from old cartoons and puts them next to unofficial drawings of the four characters with the same smiling pose. Except if you watch those shows, every single one of them, especially loving Gumball, does insane poo poo with their faces and expressions. Probably the one who does it the least is Dipper since he's kind of a straight man. But then you could just bring in Mabel and fill that gap. Anyway, it's a dumb meme and cartoons have never been better than they are right now IMO
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Apr 27, 2017 23:03
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Robindaybird posted:Because even for the era they're pretty assholish for that and it's not like Disney is putting himself on a higher moral ground, while CS Lewis does have a tendency to preach morality. fair, I don't really know how hard these people pushed their ideas
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Apr 27, 2017 23:12
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Macaluso posted:I've seen that meme floating around and even before that response on tumblr came out I thought it was stupid. and given with budget and technology limitations, TV cartoons used to be a lot more limited unless it's Disney or certain Nick shows - not counting the ones that look different because the artists didn't have the time t keep from them going off-model. Though I suppose this meme is the evolution of the DW Face (though that's more protesting why that face keeps showing up in posters and promo material).
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Apr 27, 2017 23:33
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Hedrigall posted:Jeez I didn't realise people on the internet take not having sex so seriously 
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Apr 27, 2017 23:40
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starkebn posted:so for some Disney gets a pass on being anti-semetic because he was a product of his era but C S Lewis and Tolkein can't get a pass on being colonialists and classist. It's not that easy to detect antisemitism in most of Disney's more famous works, while classism etc is quite clearly there in LotR and Narnia.
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Apr 27, 2017 23:47
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Regalingualius posted:Did Moebius ever have any of his work adapted into animation? It's not based on one of his comics, but Moebius was heavily involved in the creation of Les Maîtres du temps, doing most of the film's design and writing. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 23:51
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Fangz posted:It's not that easy to detect antisemitism in most of Disney's more famous works, while classism etc is quite clearly there in LotR and Narnia. I think the most anti-Semitic character they ever made was Sykes, which was considerably post-Disney himself.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:05
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Regalingualius posted:Did Moebius ever have any of his work adapted into animation? It's poo poo, though; Panzer Dragoon deserved a lot better.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:10
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Hey 
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Apr 28, 2017 00:11
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Robindaybird posted:Thank you! The Music is good, but it's cool to hate on Billy Joel so people tend to poo poo on it. Yeah. Wow, I forgot how darkly weird Oliver and Company managed to be. Pick posted:I think the most anti-Semitic character they ever made was Sykes, which was considerably post-Disney himself. You might be right.  The visual design was way off, but its pretty obvious why Sykes was so forgettable compared to his henchdogs.    Thanks google imagesearch. LeJackal fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Apr 28, 2017 00:12
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I didn't realise Sykes was meant to be Jewish I guess I just don't "see" race  nah it's because I'm a trash who hasn't read Dickens
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Apr 28, 2017 00:13
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I actually really like Sykes' design but it should not be used as a villain.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:20
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Sykes is kinda hot for an older man
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Apr 28, 2017 00:21
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When was it suddenly a fact that Walt Disney was antisemitic? I always thought the story was that he just made poor decisions and allied himself with some bad people while not necessarily sharing all of their beliefs. Did something come out where he fired all his jewish employees en masse or tossed slurs at them in a drunken fit?
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Apr 28, 2017 00:22
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Hedrigall posted:Sykes is kinda hot for an older man The fact that his jaw is about three times larger than his braincase sort of weirds me out. Plus he's a smoker. Also a scumbag. Good doges though.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:25
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One of the main problems with O&C is that the main hobo is still super gross, so you just... you don't like him.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:28
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I honestly didn't give a poo poo about any of the humans
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Apr 28, 2017 00:31
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Hedrigall posted:I honestly didn't give a poo poo about any of the humans They are generally trash.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:35
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Just lol if you have any empathy at all for characters in any medium who don't walk digitigrade
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Apr 28, 2017 00:36
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Hedrigall posted:Just lol if you have any empathy at all for characters in any medium who don't walk digitigrade If you don't got fur your char is a blur.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:50
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Hedrigall posted:I honestly didn't give a poo poo about any of the humans I wanted to scream the first time I realized that lovely little girl had a song.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:33
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TBH the first thing I thought of when you posted it was Senator Armstrong. "Played college ball, ya know." Oliver and Company isn't a great movie, and even as a kid I preferred the Jungle Book or An American Tail. It's got some catchy tunes though, and I can't be too harsh on it when the lead dog reminds me of my old terrier.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:34
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Yeah the songs were pretty good in that super cheesy 80s way. Saving grace of the film imo
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Apr 28, 2017 01:41
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Hedrigall posted:I didn't realise Sykes was meant to be Jewish I thought whole reason Sykes was the villain was because in the book it was Fagin who was an anti-semitic caricature but I haven't read it either.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:48
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Hedrigall posted:Yeah the songs were pretty good in that super cheesy 80s way. Saving grace of the film imo I always had a soft spot for Streets of Gold because I like upbeat tunes about cult/gang indoctrination sung by talented female vocalists. Too bad that DeSoto and Roscoe didn't have a musical number.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:48
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Pick posted:How dare Disney remove the nuance of the prince raping Sleeping Beauty when she's asleep so she wakes up as she gives birth and finds she is his property. Makes u think imho. God the original sleeping beauty is such an awful mess. Not only does the prince rape and impregnate sleeping beauty instead of kissing her, when she wakes up it turns out the prince is actually a king because he's already married. The queen gets jealous of the kings rape victim and her babies and tries to have them killed, but she fucks it up and the king ends up killing the queen instead. So, now that the kings gross old wife is dead he's free to marry his hot rape victim. It's not a fairytale so much as it is the rejected plot of some weird fetish porno that the studio decided not to make because it was too misogynistic. Like, Disney isn't perfect, he made some mistakes, but I really don't think slightly changing the plots of old folktales to make them less horrifying is one of them. Although I do have some complicated feelings about the changes made to the Little Mermaid, but that was made after Disney was already dead so he can't really be blamed for them.
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