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Shinjobi posted:I know. I actually do feel a lot better about this series if Reilly is still a bad guy; means Kaine can still be a (reluctant) good guy. I miss Spiderverse Ben Reilly.
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As was said, Thor was fantastic. I loved how the Shi'iar said go gently caress yourselves to their gods because they were calling down disasters on their own people, and Quire just not caring is always great to see.
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Apr 27, 2017 20:08
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twistedmentat posted:As was said, Thor was fantastic. I loved how the Shi'iar said go gently caress yourselves to their gods because they were calling down disasters on their own people, and Quire just not caring is always great to see. Kid Gladiator and QQ reunited is so loving good and Aaron writes the hell out of Quentin.
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twistedmentat posted:As was said, Thor was fantastic. I loved how the Shi'iar said go gently caress yourselves to their gods because they were calling down disasters on their own people, and Quire just not caring is always great to see. Yeah. Loved it. Also The Ultimates 2 is pretty wild with a whole reality as the enemy.
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Is Thor Marvel's most consistently good title? I feel like it is, it's been generally awesome for years.
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Sentinel Red posted:Is Thor Marvel's most consistently good title? I feel like it is, it's been generally awesome for years. A lot of people don't like the Matt Fraction series.
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Diet Poison posted:I hope when this is all over, Marvel goes super-meta and says "oh nooo you guys, our office was totally taken over by Hydra and they forced us to print a bunch of Pro-Hydra comics, but everything's okay now". I hope when it is over in continuity America Chavez piledrives Steve Rogers through a table Nick Spencer is laying on.
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Blockhouse posted:that's hawkeye vs deadpool which is a fantastic mini but spider-man is not in it Huh, I must be misremembering, then. Ah well, point still stands. And yeah, I've been reading Occupy Avengers and it hasn't shown up, but it hasn't been ignored, either; the matter just hasn't come up. Boo.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:14
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rantmo posted:Kid Gladiator and QQ reunited is so loving good and Aaron writes the hell out of Quentin. I like how his first thought was that this was a Jean Grey school reunion. Was this the first time Thor lost her helm? I know she took it off when she was getting face time with Falcon Cap, but I don't think she's been hit so hard she loses it. If I have a single comic book regret, it's not reading enough Thor. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Apr 28, 2017 00:17
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Sentinel Red posted:Is Thor Marvel's most consistently good title? I feel like it is, it's been generally awesome for years. That's actually an interesting question but yeah the Fraction run wasn't too hot. The next thing I'd say is Iron Man but that also has a not great Fraction run but too long ago. I may be the only person here who had been really liking Bendis on it though
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Apr 28, 2017 03:30
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Daredevil. Diggle's run was pretty short, so I wouldn't count that against it. I haven't read any of Soule's run though.
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Apr 28, 2017 03:35
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Soule's run is okay, but I have some salt over how hard the reset button got pushed, especially in the last couple of issues. Soule writes a pretty good Kristen McDuffie.
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Apr 28, 2017 03:39
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Yeah Daredevil has been consistently good for like 15 years now. Also weird how Fraction managed to have such a hit with Hawkeye but such a dud with Thor, Iron Man, and especially Fear Itself. Was his X-Men or Punisher runs any good? I feel like Immortal Iron Fist might be the only really good thing he wrote for Marvel besides Hawkeye. Though I did enjoy his Fantastic Four and very short Defenders runs.
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Apr 28, 2017 03:43
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twistedmentat posted:I like how his first thought was that this was a Jean Grey school reunion. I looked through the issue again, but I don't see Thor losing her helm anywhere.
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Apr 28, 2017 03:47
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X-O posted:Yeah Daredevil has been consistently good for like 15 years now. His Iron Man was pretty good. It went on for a bit to long, but it was still a pretty good Iron Man run. He also introduced Rescue and one of the few who can write a good Hill.
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Apr 28, 2017 04:08
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I liked Fraction's Iron Man run, it kind of defined the character as the MCU started getting off the ground. Larroca's art, though...
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X-O posted:Yeah Daredevil has been consistently good for like 15 years now. His X-Men run was alright, but he was stuck with Land for most of it. Moving the X-Men to San Francisco, and having Namor around was cool, but he didn't really do anything real exciting. I didn't read the rest of his Thor, but that first arc with Galactus and the Silver Surfer is exactly my poo poo. Fraction's recommendation to read Thor 168-169 is what made me a Thor fan.
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Apr 28, 2017 04:45
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Other than that Galactus story his Thor was amazingly bad.
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Apr 28, 2017 04:58
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X-O posted:Yeah Daredevil has been consistently good for like 15 years now. How much of Iron Fist was him and how much was Brubaker? I always associate that one more with ed. E: also Diggles run on daredevil, sandwiched as it is between all time great runs, is really really bad. At least it was short.
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Apr 28, 2017 05:27
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Iron Fist was pretty much all Fraction. Brubaker has said he didn't do much on it.
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Jordan7hm posted:How much of Iron Fist was him and how much was Brubaker? I always associate that one more with ed. IGN posted:IGN Comics: It's safe to say by now the two of you have turned The Immortal Iron Fist into a pretty major success. What made you decide to leave the book now? E: There's more at The AVClub interview with Brubaker. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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So... Ed did significant writing until issue 10. Out of 14 where he had credits. On a 16 issue run.
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Apr 28, 2017 05:32
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X-O posted:Yeah Daredevil has been consistently good for like 15 years now. Given the high quality of his indie stuff I think he just batted heads with Marvel editorial too often. His best Marvel work is the stuff unconnected to ongoing plots but Marvel kept wanting him to be an "architect" of events. He quit Marvel in the middle of working on the first attempt to make Inhumans a thing.
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Jordan7hm posted:So... Ed did significant writing until issue 10. Out of 14 where he had credits. On a 16 issue run. And those last 6 issues are significantly weaker than the first 10.
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Skwirl posted:Given the high quality of his indie stuff I think he just batted heads with Marvel editorial too often. His best Marvel work is the stuff unconnected to ongoing plots but Marvel kept wanting him to be an "architect" of events. He quit Marvel in the middle of working on the first attempt to make Inhumans a thing. There's not much of his indy stuff I like besides Sex Criminals. Though I never tried Satellite Sam. Casanova just admittedly wasn't my thing but ODY-C was like right in my wheelhouse and the only thing I came away with from that is loving the art.
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X-O posted:There's not much of his indy stuff I like besides Sex Criminals. Though I never tried Satellite Sam. Casanova just admittedly wasn't my thing but ODY-C was like right in my wheelhouse and the only thing I came away with from that is loving the art. Casanova series 2 has a lamb recipe that I still use.
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Wait, there are people that didn't like Fraction's Iron Man run? I thought it was a pretty drat good run, especially considering he was stuck with the "fix it so Tony isn't a facist anymore" story beat.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Wait, there are people that didn't like Fraction's Iron Man run? I thought it was a pretty drat good run, especially considering he was stuck with the "fix it so Tony isn't a facist anymore" story beat. That was actually really great. They should probably bring him back to fix whatever the gently caress Nick Spencer is doing to Captain America.
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Brubaker/Fraction on Iron Fist was around the same time as Bendis/Hickman on Secret Warriors.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Wait, there are people that didn't like Fraction's Iron Man run? I thought it was a pretty drat good run, especially considering he was stuck with the "fix it so Tony isn't a facist anymore" story beat. I liked it quite a bit but it did not have the best art.
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I liked his X-Men run, despite the Greg Land art at it's Landiest.
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I liked his X-Men and his Iron Man, but no, he wasn't given particularly thoughtful artist match-ups for a lot of his Marvel assignments. I think a big problem of that era-- and maybe I'm being ahistorical, maybe it's been an issue for awhile (and I think it's definitely still an issue)-- was landing writer's on the basis of their indy work on then just not really acknowledging what made that work and their initial Marvel successes compelling. Often, I think, coinciding with being stuck with writing big crossover event books. Nothing in Bendis' ouevre would suggest that House of M would be particularly good. Ditto Fraction and Fear Itself. Similarly Spencer-- who was far from unanimously liked to begin with-- is kind of lapsing into his worst tendencies with Secret Empire and I definitely don't think it'll do anything good for his reputation in the long run. I guess Hickman getting a good reception on Infinity and Secret Wars (I personally didn't love either) was kind of an anomaly but, like, cosmic chicanery on a super-duper macro scale was something that was in his wheelhouse. Maybe a happy coincidence. World War Hulk was also dumb fun but imo Pak is more willing to do solid journeyman stuff and frankly just better at it. Say what you will about Geoff Johns over on the DC side of things but he's another guy who was basically tailor-made to write huge stupid blockbuster crossovers and if nothing else most of his big events over the past 10-15 years wound up being precisely what they set out to be. I'm kind of glad Gillen got in and got out before he was saddled with headlining a summer crossover because I liked his Marvel stuff and those things tend to mark a downturn in enthusiasm. I'm sort of dreading the day Ewing or Soule get one. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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How is it that these stories that seem like they'd be really great keep getting stuck with Land? Some of my favorite X-Men moments came from a run all but ruined by Land's 'art', he hosed up what, in retrospect, was a really cool Iron Man run with a lot of neat ideas (and have we even seen Tony's brother since Tony E: Oh! And let's not forget Mighty Avengers. And, like... a BUNCH of Ultimate Comics.
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KaosMachina posted:How is it that these stories that seem like they'd be really great keep getting stuck with Land? He's a popular artist. Not in BSS, obviously, but there's no shortage of people who either like or at least don't dislike him.
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The thing that makes us hate Greg Land actually attracts a lot of other people to his work. As was mentioned in another thread recently there's a pretty big contingent of people that love his "realistic" "art" "style" for some reason.
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I rather see Greg Land art over that one dude that just uses poser models for his traces. With the exception of when he's tracing porn or the same 2 women over and over, I actually kinda like his work (especially when it's carried by good inks/colors)
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KaosMachina posted:How is it that these stories that seem like they'd be really great keep getting stuck with Land? He gets his work in on time and him being on books, at the very least, doesn't seem to hurt their sales, so Marvel puts him on big titles.
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KaosMachina posted:Weapon X seems like it should be good and fun, but... Land. It pains me slightly to say it, but Land's art is actually not bad. There are a few Land Faces in this week's issue but by and large he appears to be actually drawing and composing frames with some competency. He's no Marquez but he actually seems like he's trying.
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OhFunny posted:I looked through the issue again, but I don't see Thor losing her helm anywhere. I could have sworn when it showed her falling after trying to hammer the Phoenix she wasn't wearing her helmet. Are people talking about Visionaries as in Knights of the Magical Light? twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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