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AnoHito posted:The atmosphere I think you're looking for is "Really stupid, but at the same time fun as hell and legitimately engaging." I was on the fence about mentioning concrete revolutio because, while the feel of the show fits, I couldn't quite get into it for some reason and so didn't bother with S2. Steins;Gate I am reading and the others I have seen. Anything else spring to mind? (Also, nothing as creepy as NGNL has come up in Zvezda as of the point I have reached. Is there something weird coming?)
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Kytrarewn posted:I was on the fence about mentioning concrete revolutio because, while the feel of the show fits, I couldn't quite get into it for some reason and so didn't bother with S2. If the criteria is dumb but fun, what's your tolerance for men in rubber suits? Because tokusatsu basically runs on "dumb but fun."
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Kytrarewn posted:I was on the fence about mentioning concrete revolutio because, while the feel of the show fits, I couldn't quite get into it for some reason and so didn't bother with S2. You should watch Steins;Gate. And then you should watch the dub. And then do all three of them again. (No there's nothing creepy in Zvezda. Ppl complained about Kate's outfit being too sexy or something.) e: I started re-watching Zvezda because of this conversation and I can't stop. Oh well, I've been meaning to. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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AnoHito posted:The atmosphere I think you're looking for is "Really stupid, but at the same time fun as hell and legitimately engaging." concrete revolutio and steins;gate aren't stupid. concrete revolutio in particular has a ridiculous amount of thought put into its storytelling and how specific events tie into the dates and times they take place, using colorful homages to old super sentai and mecha stuff to explore mirror images of real-world history. assuming kytrarewn meant gatchaman crowds, that is also a very smart and well-written show that explores really serious real-world stuff through a very colorful, goofy super hero lens punch line, though, yeah, that's just gloriously stupid and goofy and fun without that much deeper meaning to it
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ViggyNash posted:(No there's nothing creepy in Zvezda. Ppl complained about Kate's outfit being too sexy or something.) a pre-teen in an outfit that mostly consists of a thong and a cape is in fact creepy, ViggyNash
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:a pre-teen in an outfit that mostly consists of a thong and a cape is in fact creepy, ViggyNash I'm ok with it because beyond the design, the show never makes an effort to oversexualize or exploit her appearance. The absurd outfit is meant to reflect her absurd character and attitude. The design is meant to sell a persona, just like how Yasu in the show talks about smoking as a way of selling a "bad-boy" persona. This sort of thing is only a problem if the show actively tries to sexualize the character either through over-exaggerated designs or shot choice. For example, take Saekano. At first the show didn't have any fanservice beyond the inherent requirements of the story, in that Eriri is a hentai manga artist. But it doesn't really sexualize the female cast at all. But around halfway through, the show started relying heavily on tits and rear end shots for no particular reason than to show tits and rear end. That's when it becomes a problem, because then there's no justification for the designs and shot choice beyond pandering to perverts, and that obviously becomes an even worse problem when the character being sexualized is either a child or designed to look like a child. So yeah, I'm ok with Kate's design because it makes sense for show and is never exploited. I am not fine with stuff designed to pander to creepy perverts, which is what the problematic stuff in NGNL is. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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ViggyNash posted:I'm ok with it because beyond the design, the show never makes an effort to oversexualize or exploit her appearance. It does, because it exists. 
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Oh ffs. I'm usually the first person to call bullshit on a show that's even the least bit fetish-y. I am ok with Zvezda because it is not trying to sell a loli fetish in the same way that Berserk isn't trying to sell you soft-core porn. On the other hand Saekano's second half tries to sell tits and rear end rather than its actually good story, and NGNL tries to sell incest fetish to the detriment of its fun mind-games plot. That is my last word on where I draw the line as far as problematic anime fanservice. Take it or leave it, idgaf at this point.
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Can anyone recommend any 'mature' anime? Bit of an oxymoron, I know. I'm having trouble coming up with an exact definition of what I mean, but I guess basically the equivalent of a seinen manga. A few examples that come to mind are: kaiba, mushishi, legend of the galactic heroes, the tatami galaxy, and house of five leaves. Thanks in advance.
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Cock and Balzac posted:Can anyone recommend any 'mature' anime? Bit of an oxymoron, I know. Trashy or classy?
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Cock and Balzac posted:Can anyone recommend any 'mature' anime? Bit of an oxymoron, I know.
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Cock and Balzac posted:Can anyone recommend any 'mature' anime? Bit of an oxymoron, I know. If you like sci-fi, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex fits.
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Shin Sekai Yori Texhnolyze Casshern Sins Serial Experiments Lain Haibane Renmei Kino's Journey Natsume Yuujinchou Bokurano Kids on the Slope Cowboy Bebop ... There's plenty of stuff out there. If you want something more specific, then you gotta specify. Otherwise just check out the wiki and see what sounds interesting. edit: Someone give me a good manga to read. I've got the urge for something Blame!-like, more so its setting. Mysterious and fascinating environments, preferably presented with some great art. Not necessarily sci-fi. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Cock and Balzac posted:Can anyone recommend any 'mature' anime? Bit of an oxymoron, I know. Kokoro Wish posted:Monster This. Also Welcome to the NHK, it kinda reminds me of Tatami Galaxy. Going through your early 20s not knowing what you want to do with your life. Even though its comedy it can fill you up with existential dread.. ViggyNash posted:Shin Sekai Yori These are all good recommendations that fit the bill although Shin Sekai Yori(from the new world) has a jarring animation change around episode 2-3. It feels like a different studio started animating it or they lost their entire budget.
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ViggyNash posted:Shin Sekai Yori BiOmega or Knights of Sidonia.
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Ulio posted:These are all good recommendations that fit the bill although Shin Sekai Yori(from the new world) has a jarring animation change around episode 2-3. It feels like a different studio started animating it or they lost their entire budget. This is somewhat common in general. Studios know they have 3-ish episodes to sell their show to people before they dedicate to it, so lots of shows will pre-load their animation quality before dropping off. Neddy Seagoon posted:BiOmega or Knights of Sidonia. HenryEx posted:Dorohedoro has one of the best realized settings around, and is by (i think) a former assistant of Nihei so the environments are gorgeous in a grimy sort of way. Cool, I'll check them out. I did read a bit of Dorohedoro a year or so ago but things happened and I forgot about it. Really should get back into it. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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If you haven't already, try reading Akira or Appleseed for some classic dystopian futuristic manga.
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ViggyNash posted:This is somewhat common in general. Studios know they have 3-ish episodes to sell their show to people before they dedicate to it, so lots of shows will pre-load their animation quality before dropping off. Its not as bad as in From the new world. Still I recommend watching it for the story.
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Ulio posted:Its not as bad as in From the new world. Still I recommend watching it for the story. Oh absolutely. I neither noticed nor cared if the animation had an issue because it was just so drat fascinating.
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Ulio posted:Its not as bad as in From the new world. Still I recommend watching it for the story. That massive animation shift that was being talked about I believe is because a different director did two of the show's episodes. I can't remember exactly which two it was specifically, but I'm pretty sure episode 4 was one of them, and the other was also one of the first 12. Even putting animation changes aside, I remember those episodes being noticeably worse than most of the rest. At the very least, I certainly don't remember the show's animation quality getting any worse - those two episodes excepted - as it went on, so if those episodes aren't what people are referring to then I don't really know what they mean. That said, it's been a fair while since I watched the show.
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smenj posted:At the very least, I certainly don't remember the show's animation quality getting any worse - those two episodes excepted - as it went on, so if those episodes aren't what people are referring to then I don't really know what they mean. That said, it's been a fair while since I watched the show. Yeah, this. It's been awhile but I remember the show being pretty nice looking the whole way through, unless the pretty simple facial design got to you
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I've finally gotten round to watching Daily Lives of High School Boys and oh my god this show is loving magical  .
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Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up.
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up. Objectively good: Black Lagoon, Ghost in the Shell SAC Bad but fun: Kill la Kill Tastes may vary but they all feature badass violent ladies
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up. PATLABOR
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up.
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up. My Hero Academia has some very cool lady characters in it, Uraraka, Momo, Tsuyu, Mei, and Mina are all great, strong characters who can generally handle themselves instead of needing rescuing, and get the spotlight relatively often. Uraraka is the "protagonist girlfriend" but is not just a damsel in distress like some can be, she's very capable of taking care of herself. Dorohedoro has some FANTASTIC female characters as well. Noi and Nikaido are awesome, Noi is straight up amazonian and just a brutal badass but cares for her friends and her partner, Nikaido has one of the best character stories in a series full of them.
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up. the read or die ova, gun/diebuster
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I think calling Uraraka a protagonist is really stretching it, and the rest are supporting cast at best. They're all solid characters but MHA is still very male-focused.
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TriffTshngo posted:Any recommendations for half decent shonens (or just actiony stuff in general) with cool lady protagonists? The world needs more Jolyne Kujos and Anne from Managements. There's probably a bunch I've missed. I imagine this subject has been discussed before so feel free to point me to a page if someone's recently brought it up. Maybe not shonen: Kyousogiga, Psycho-Pass, Jormungand Fun but maybe not great: Soul Eater (read the manga, anime has a dumb original ending) Lady might not be the protagonist in the strictest sense but has a great presence: Black Lagoon, Kekkaishi, Birdy the Mighty also this guy is giving you good advice: Nate RFB posted:Twelve Kingdoms and Seirei no Moribito. Yona of the Dawn is Shoujo but it has a super cool MC and lots of action.
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birdy technically might not be the protag of season 1, but i'd argue she is absolutely the lead in decode s2 with the dude just being there as a lens to view her story
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I don't think one needs much to argue against that, Tsotomu really didn't do much of anything himself in S2. And yea Birdy is a fuckin great MC in that season so I'd absolutely want to count that too even if it means getting through the just-alright first season where she's less of the focus.
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I've seen Gun/Diebuster, Kill la Kill, seen+read Soul Eater and MHA, and started but dropped off of Black Lagoon and Symphogear. May give those two another shot. I'll check out the rest, thanks.
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TriffTshngo posted:I've seen Gun/Diebuster, Kill la Kill, seen+read Soul Eater and MHA, and started but dropped off of Black Lagoon and Symphogear. May give those two another shot. I'll check out the rest, thanks. Noi is one of my favorites. She's brutal as gently caress(kind of a prerequisite in Dorohedoro really), but caring. Also, she's built like a brick shithouse, and she's got a wonderfully cute relationship with her partner which is refreshing in the absurdly bleak and dreary world of Dorohedoro. she's the one on the left here.      Noi rules.  Nikaido is great too, but her draw is more story-based so I'll let you learn about her on your own.  I really love Dorohedoro because all of the characters are different and entertaining, and it's easy to root for a lot of them even if some are technically "the bad guys".
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I've been watching through Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Patlabor 2, and I'm totally in the mood for some more politically driven anime in the same vein. Anybody got some good recommendations? Thanks!
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Silvergun1000 posted:I've been watching through Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Patlabor 2, and I'm totally in the mood for some more politically driven anime in the same vein. Anybody got some good recommendations? Thanks! Last season's ACCA is a great political story that's as much about the different cultures of the fictional country it takes place in as the political drama itself. It has an awesome OP and a fantastic soundtrack, too. ACCA! Watch ACCA!
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