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Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

el dorito posted:

It has to be said that home prices (especially in desirable areas) are inexplicably high right now.

There's been (and still is and will be) a bunch of new apartment construction going on. When inventory supply exceeds demand, the prices might get more reasonable. But I wouldn't try to time it.

It's not super inexplicable. There's a whole poo poo ton of capital sloshing around and limited number of housing units. Construction lags way behind demand and then you get a bubble. This is the third in my lifetime.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

california has a roaring economy, excellent weather, fertile land, tons of good schools, a huge defecit in housing construction, and high demand for housing. It's not a housing bubble because housing prices are not being driven mostly by speculation. If/when demand falls off or supply increases, prices may pull back, but they won't crash like they did in 2007/8 because there's no subprime mortgage crisis.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

punk rebel ecks posted:

So I spoke with my grandma's nurse who has family all across California. She says housing is expensive no matter were you are at.

punk rebel ecks posted:

She said a family member spent $1,000,000 on a townhouse...in Anaheim...
Disneyland Town isnt a good metric.

Like I bet theres still cheap housing in California City or Chowchilla. (Like most people I have never been to either of those places.)

meet girls at the store
Nov 4, 2002

FRINGE posted:

Disneyland Town isnt a good metric.

Like I bet theres still cheap housing in California City or Chowchilla. (Like most people I have never been to either of those places.)

:eng101: Actually Chowchilla basically has two options: run down meth shack, or way overpriced wannabe mini-McMansion on a golf course, there is no in between. Even Chowchilla is hosed.

RabbitMage
Nov 20, 2008
Just wanted to say I spent a few days in Sacramento and really liked it. And going to a grocery store there after four years of living in Humboldt was absolutely infuriating. I remember food being cheaper in the Central Valley, but I forgot just how cheap.

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





I remember driving back from temecula and picking up 15 avocados for $5 (or was it $3?) and a huge bag of oranges for cheap too.

I want to bring some friends to Temecula (from Orange County) but the 91 is a poo poo show, the 76/78 is quite the detour and I can't guarantee that I'll still have friends after taking the Ortega.

Has anyone ever actually been on the Ortega as a passenger? I feel it would make anyone sick if they weren't the driver.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

I've driven it plenty of times, as a driver and passenger. It's fine. Going to Big Bear is much worse.


If you're worried, go all the way down to Oceanside, take 76 to Pala. Stay at the casino, drink a 40 oz souvenir cup of Stone pale ale for $12, spend some time at the pool. It's a short drive to Temecula from there. The last wedding I was at down there, we had rented a bus to take us from the casino to all of the wineries for the day.

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





FogHelmut posted:

I've driven it plenty of times, as a driver and passenger. It's fine. Going to Big Bear is much worse.


If you're worried, go all the way down to Oceanside, take 76 to Pala. Stay at the casino, drink a 40 oz souvenir cup of Stone pale ale for $12, spend some time at the pool. It's a short drive to Temecula from there. The last wedding I was at down there, we had rented a bus to take us from the casino to all of the wineries for the day.

True. I wanted to make it a day trip (I usually just go there for an afternoon for christmas shopping) but if I'm taking people, maybe we should stay a night. Taking the 76 or the 78 would add about an hour and a half, maybe splitting the driving duties would work too.

There's supposedly a lot of incoming foreign investment in the Temecula wineries including more lodgings. More options incoming soon, sounds like.

After attending a wedding in Lake Arrowhead, me and another driver talked about how the passengers were basically passed out (for good reason, and I think I would have preferred to drive) and we (the drivers) had to navigate ourselves.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo

mllaneza posted:

Petaluma to downtown SF on Golden Gate Transit isn't THAT bad of a commute.

Or do what I did and get a motorcycle and actually enjoy the commute (until you get run over and dragged on the freeway by an entitled Marinite).

I wouldn't really ever recommend the Sonoma County <--> SF commute. From Novato, sure

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


I know downtown is an hour by bus from Marin City, which is like, the northern tip of Sausalito. I don't know if I could tolerate that, but I guess different people have different tolerances.

I do know people who commute from further north by driving to Larkspur and taking the ferry in to the city, and by working from home one day a week (as opposed to five, as god intended).

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.
I think I figured out why people get married in CA-- have to in order to afford a desirable condo or home before the age of 45.

Virtue
Jan 7, 2009

Can someone help me figure out how to get to the San Diego safari park without a car from the gaslamp district? I must be missing something because the best I found so far is taking two different trains: one up the coast and one inland.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Virtue posted:

Can someone help me figure out how to get to the San Diego safari park without a car from the gaslamp district? I must be missing something because the best I found so far is taking two different trains: one up the coast and one inland.

Nope, without a car you're pretty hosed. Welcome to San Diego

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Virtue posted:

Can someone help me figure out how to get to the San Diego safari park without a car from the gaslamp district? I must be missing something because the best I found so far is taking two different trains: one up the coast and one inland.

Lyft?

Virtue
Jan 7, 2009

Yeah it looks like I'm going to have to try some kind of ride sharing even though it's going to cost a billion dollars to go there and back. The two trains would take longer and would be pretty expensive anyway. Unless I can find some kind of tour bus that isn't a scam

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Rent a car, yo. A one-day rental with an online coupon is what, forty bucks?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Leperflesh posted:

Rent a car, yo. A one-day rental with an online coupon is what, forty bucks?

If you can do a non-airport enterprise, you can sometimes pull off thirty.
I find a car quite useful in SD anyhow.

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Virtue posted:

Can someone help me figure out how to get to the San Diego safari park without a car from the gaslamp district? I must be missing something because the best I found so far is taking two different trains: one up the coast and one inland.

You could take the Coaster to Oceanside, then the Sprinter to the Escondido Transit Center, then the 371 to the park. But the 371 is a Flex bus that only runs a limited schedule M-F. But that's a lot of time to waste.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

Virtue posted:

San Diego ... without a car
How did this happen to you?

Virtue
Jan 7, 2009

The Aardvark posted:

You could take the Coaster to Oceanside, then the Sprinter to the Escondido Transit Center, then the 371 to the park. But the 371 is a Flex bus that only runs a limited schedule M-F. But that's a lot of time to waste.

Yeah this is what I was looking at originally. Assuming the uber fare estimator is correct I'd save 30-50 bucks round trip in exchange for 1.5-2 hours of travel time since I'm going with someone else so 2 train tickets vs 1 uber.

Virtue fucked around with this message at 03:13 on May 21, 2017

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Do that. NCTD is garbage within Oceanside and Vista, so I can only imagine the headache it would be going towards Ramona. :barf:

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Interesting story about our mayor who wants to bring in the Chinese and "the gays"
to bring down crime in our meth-addled city.


quote:

Good things happen when you’re able to increase your Asian population to a certain threshold: Crime rates go down, education levels go up,” Parris told me. “Interestingly, the same thing happens with the gays. That’s why I put the new performing arts center right downtown.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003


I drove through there one time, it was hosed up.



el dorito posted:

True. I wanted to make it a day trip (I usually just go there for an afternoon for christmas shopping) but if I'm taking people, maybe we should stay a night. Taking the 76 or the 78 would add about an hour and a half, maybe splitting the driving duties would work too.

There's supposedly a lot of incoming foreign investment in the Temecula wineries including more lodgings. More options incoming soon, sounds like.

After attending a wedding in Lake Arrowhead, me and another driver talked about how the passengers were basically passed out (for good reason, and I think I would have preferred to drive) and we (the drivers) had to navigate ourselves.

Did you ever do this? I drove the Ortega last Saturday to go to a wedding in Temecula. I had my wife, my infant son, my mother in law, her cousin, and their friend in the car. No one puked, everything was fine.

FogHelmut fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 1, 2017

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





FogHelmut posted:

Did you ever do this? I drove the Ortega last Saturday to go to a wedding in Temecula. I had my wife, my infant son, my mother in law, her cousin, and their friend in the car. No one puked, everything was fine.

Nope. My temecula trips are usually in december or on a whim

But you probably drove with more care.

I guess I'd probably drive with greater than usual care as well if I had passengers

Guy Farting
Jul 28, 2003

has vegetable salty

As depicted this dude sounds awesome (as long as he leaves when it's his time). I bet most city governments are run like the mafia.

See More Butts
Dec 29, 2004



Wtf Nevada starts allowing recreational weed sales Saturday. How are we still like "muhhhh I dont know how to sell stuff" until next year?

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

So I can go buy weed in Primm?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

bumming your scene posted:

Wtf Nevada starts allowing recreational weed sales Saturday. How are we still like "muhhhh I dont know how to sell stuff" until next year?

Well you see.. political capital.. .means.. you must not do things.. err.. fast because.. uh... err peope might be mad!

Xaris fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jun 28, 2017

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Honestly, there is a realization that legal recreation weed will probably live or die based on California and will likely be the model if done successfully, so there is a lot of pressure to do it write.
Yes, other states did it first, but on things like this California tends to indicate what the nation will do in 20 years.

Also, California's administrative procedures act (also copied by many states!) is quite cumbersome for something this big. And unlike many propositions, this one didn't come with a lot of cut and dry rules which makes the APA process necessary.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
In L.A., one of the police bigwigs is really, really against legalized pot (to the point where I believe he said something like no compelling medical reason to legalize it). Understandably this leads to a lot of examination of providers under the lens of " too close to a school".

So at the very least I hope they're finding ways to minimize that being a huge critique.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

bumming your scene posted:

Wtf Nevada starts allowing recreational weed sales Saturday. How are we still like "muhhhh I dont know how to sell stuff" until next year?
eh, medical was already practically recreational ("uuhhh I can't sleep doc, plus I'm like, depressed!") and there are already recreational dispensaries popping all over despite not being entirely legal
I'm not sure how I even feel about it since I hear recreational places are more expensive/not as good quality, but hey, you don't have to get a rec at least.

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 28, 2017

See More Butts
Dec 29, 2004



I wouldn't have to drive into San Bernardino to buy my drugs

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
How can we claim this is still the best state when it's so loving hot outside?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

CPColin posted:

How can we claim this is still the best state when it's so loving hot outside?

Because we're only an hour from the ocean and mountains where it is cooler.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

CPColin posted:

How can we claim this is still the best state when it's so loving hot outside?
Also: it's a dry heat.

bitprophet
Jul 22, 2004
Taco Defender

FMguru posted:

Also: it's a dry heat.

Here (outer East Bay, so, over 100 degrees a lot lately, was already low/mid 90s by late morning today) when I'm outside, I'm all: "Ugh it's hot."

Back in the Northeast where I grew up, when it was 90-something degrees, I was all: "Ugh it's hot and also I'm miserably drowning in my own sweat."

Still really don't like the heat here but at least it's not muggy too. And being this far out means central air, which is nice, if wasteful (especially 70s era single-zone.) I don't know how the by-the-Bay types manage without AC during heat waves. (No idea how Southern California functions...everyone has AC?)

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
Here in San Luis Obispo, A/C is not typical in most of the housing. Newer construction (what little there is) may have it. Up over Cuesta Grade, in places like Atascadero and Paso Robles, A/C is pretty standard, because they see much more heat than we do. I had to buy a portable A/C unit last year, so my girlfriend wouldn't murder me, and it is not keeping up with the demand. About to head to the coast until the sun goes down.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
My old townhouse only had central heating, so we bought a portable unit and set it up in the living room. We suffered through a tower fan blowing hot air everywhere in the bedroom, since the walls pretty much radiated heat until 2-3 am during summer.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


bitprophet posted:

Here (outer East Bay, so, over 100 degrees a lot lately, was already low/mid 90s by late morning today) when I'm outside, I'm all: "Ugh it's hot."

Back in the Northeast where I grew up, when it was 90-something degrees, I was all: "Ugh it's hot and also I'm miserably drowning in my own sweat."

Still really don't like the heat here but at least it's not muggy too. And being this far out means central air, which is nice, if wasteful (especially 70s era single-zone.) I don't know how the by-the-Bay types manage without AC during heat waves. (No idea how Southern California functions...everyone has AC?)

Here in LA the older buildings frequently don't have it. The trick is to have a beach chair and a gigantic fan. You sit in the beach chair, point the fan at yourself, and let wind chill work its magic.

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spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Here in LA the older buildings frequently don't have it. The trick is to have a beach chair and a gigantic fan. You sit in the beach chair, point the fan at yourself, and let wind chill work its magic.
I'm in Concord without AC. Grand Prize has it down.

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