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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

$200k is rich in like 99.9% of zip codes and fuckoff rich in over half of them.

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The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Halloween Jack posted:

By the way, where does the Dry Boy thing really come from? Because I listened to all the free episodes, I'm working my way through the premium ones (currently somewhere around 55, I just let the playlist run) and this is not a thing outside of Felix's weird multifaceted persona.

Episode 27, Tomorrow Belongs To Them.

EDIT: At least, I thought that was it? Maybe it was the botanical garden one.

The Crotch fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 2, 2017

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine

Halloween Jack posted:

First of all, bear in mind that a doctor making $200,000 is in the 6th percentile, even assuming their salary is the entire household income and they have no investment or other income. But that's a good question because working class status also concerns things like your working conditions and precarity, and medicine is a profession that's shifting more and more from employer to employed.

By the way, where does the Dry Boy thing really come from? Because I listened to all the free episodes, I'm working my way through the premium ones (currently somewhere around 55, I just let the playlist run) and this is not a thing outside of Felix's weird multifaceted persona.

Think it was in the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens episode and they're talking about not using condom lube. Later they mention desert plants and Felix doubles-down on Dry Boys

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

cat doter posted:

dividing people into classes isn't very useful anyway, it's all just a sliding scale of economic disparity, either you're super hosed or slightly less hosed

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

theflyingexecutive posted:

$200k is rich in like 99.9% of zip codes and fuckoff rich in over half of them.

I think the people in that last 0.1% are powerful and wealthy enough to constitute a separate class though. When occupy was in full swing the whole "1%" thing was put under a microscope and there were tons of "well, actually" articles about how there's massive inequality even within that 1% with money (and power) pooled at the top fraction of a percent.

I probably just find it difficult to think about class in American society without mapping the UK's class structure onto it, but I do think there are strong parallels.

cat doter posted:

dividing people into classes isn't very useful anyway

Agreed, we need a classless society asap

Bryter fucked around with this message at 16:17 on May 2, 2017

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
a classless society would own all we have to do is actually follow through and consume the flesh of the wealthy

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Felix is the real baby face, which is really funny given how cartoonishly huge the rest of him is.
Yeah but he has the facial symmetry of a Picasso painting

cat doter posted:

a classless society would own all we have to do is actually follow through and consume the flesh of the wealthy
Tim the Cannibal has nothing on us!

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002



Is Hannity 5' 4" or is Gorka a giant inflatable balloon?

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

Is Hannity 5' 4" or is Gorka a giant inflatable balloon?

definitely the latter



mbt
Aug 13, 2012

quote:

I used to listen and I liked them for a while, but their faults are hard to overlook at this point. The use of ableist language is disgusting, and its super disheartening when they just outright ignore fan criticisms on this. It's super telling when all my friends that still listen hates that stuff yet they still do it anyway. It's weird that people who consider themselves socialists would completely alienate people who would benefit from socialism, and it makes you wonder if they would ever advocate for the rights of disabled people in their organizing.

My interactions with the broader community has been fairly negative as well. It's mostly just people trying to justify their language with some faux-woke arguments. "It's actually woke to be ableist, also you should listen to Cum Town, and also ignore the fact that 'Cum Town' is quite possibly the laziest joke a male comedian could ever make." I would also really like it if I never read the name "Nick Mullen" on my computer screen ever again.

I'm mostly just frustrated because I feel like people should demand more from their leftist comedy, instead of settling for people who don't seem to care when the stuff they say hurts people. Also I cannot get past that premium episode where they tried to argue that cultural appropriation isn't real. What in the world was that?

I feel really complicated about all this because Chapo pushed me further to the left. Their criticisms of the democratic party are always on point and the reading series is arguably the best part of the show. I suppose they're a decent starting point if their humor is up your alley. But, again, I'm mostly just frustrated by them and their unwillingness to grow. At some point I just unsubscribed and cut myself off from large parts of leftist irony twitter. Genuine leftists are more fun to follow anyway.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Does he legit have gigantism or what? That is not a normally proportioned head by any stretch.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Pfft Gorka actually puts "Dr." on the book cover.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

While I don't totally agree I don't think that's super unreasonable until they get to "genuine leftists"

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Meyers-Briggs Testicle possesses heavy 4chan loser vibes

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Counterpoint: "smoothbrain" is a really funny insult.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
I've been uncomfortable with their use of retard for a while now but I agree with them more than I disagree so I'm not letting that be a big issue

I mean I used to say retarded constantly, when I was a lot younger, but as I grew up I kept dropping more and more offensive terms out of my speech, it just seemed like a normal part of growing up and maturing, retarded to me at least is similar to slurs like human being or friend of the family and I just kinda stopped using it to refer to idiots

so when they say it, it just kinda comes off a bit immature? we all filter our language in day to day life, whether or not you wanna chalk that up to PC culture or whatever I'm not really interested in that argument, it's an entirely personal and internal conflict in my mind, if you know someone finds what you're saying offensive and you continue to do it, that's a decision that you've made, and in my experience the more I matured the less comfortable I got with the idea of leaning on terms people find offensive, there are better ways to communicate those ideas without punching down

a lot of the poo poo people cook up about chapo guys like being misogynists or whatever (I mostly wonder if those people have even listened to it) but imo their use of retard is a legit criticism, but they seem more conscious of it these days so maybe they understand the criticisms

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
It's really just Felix who says things that get them in trouble. Also being friends with Nick Mullen is like being a rape apologist in some people's eyes.

Serf
May 5, 2011


i ain't gonna be using slurs anytime soon, that's just not my thing, and before nov. 8th i would have tut-tutted at the dry boys for some of the poo poo they say, but now in donald trump's america i really can't give a poo poo anymore

anytime they do say "retard" or whatever it does kill the joke dead for me, so that does suck

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Do people even have legit complaints with CTH, or is it entirely a Cum Town thing?

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
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~Good Times~

cat doter posted:

I've been uncomfortable with their use of retard for a while now but I agree with them more than I disagree so I'm not letting that be a big issue

I mean I used to say retarded constantly, when I was a lot younger, but as I grew up I kept dropping more and more offensive terms out of my speech, it just seemed like a normal part of growing up and maturing, retarded to me at least is similar to slurs like human being or friend of the family and I just kinda stopped using it to refer to idiots

so when they say it, it just kinda comes off a bit immature? we all filter our language in day to day life, whether or not you wanna chalk that up to PC culture or whatever I'm not really interested in that argument, it's an entirely personal and internal conflict in my mind, if you know someone finds what you're saying offensive and you continue to do it, that's a decision that you've made, and in my experience the more I matured the less comfortable I got with the idea of leaning on terms people find offensive, there are better ways to communicate those ideas without punching down

a lot of the poo poo people cook up about chapo guys like being misogynists or whatever (I mostly wonder if those people have even listened to it) but imo their use of retard is a legit criticism, but they seem more conscious of it these days so maybe they understand the criticisms

Same, but also for the autism jokes as well.

QuantaStarFire
May 18, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Moist von Lipwig posted:

the wikipedia photo of them makes me laugh every time



I'm just staring at Matt's picture and all I can see is this:

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010

Serf posted:


anytime they do say "retard" or whatever it does kill the joke dead for me, so that does suck

Yeah it's definitely stopped me from being able to fully recommend it. Seems like such an easy thing to fix too.

yoober
Nov 21, 2010

wordfiltering "retard" to "gorilla mind" so that i dont get offended

Serf
May 5, 2011


oh yeah, autism jokes are also weird and uncool

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOzrJjdZDRQ&t=63s

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
I think in general it's a punching up vs down thing, punching down is often easier but less satisfying comedically and iffy morally, I find my socialist ideals are pretty in line with my sense of humour, I just want the rich to eat it (and be eaten. by me.)

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011

Halloween Jack posted:

Do people even have legit complaints with CTH, or is it entirely a Cum Town thing?

The retard and autism stuff, the fact they have poor representation (Amber does work, but she's one person, and they don't often have minority guests). It's all stuff like that where the concerns/complaints are legitimate but they're not gonna stop me from listening. Fortunately there are other sources of leftist discussion so you don't have to get angry at them for being three white guys with an amazingly white podcast name forever.

I do wish they'd change the name, but I'm not pushing real hard on that

e:

cat doter posted:

I think in general it's a punching up vs down thing, punching down is often easier but less satisfying comedically and iffy morally, I find my socialist ideals are pretty in line with my sense of humour, I just want the rich to eat it (and be eaten. by me.)

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

listen to discourse collective

mbt
Aug 13, 2012

Chakan posted:

the fact they have poor representation (Amber does work, but she's one person, and they don't often have minority guests).
they pick the most qualified candidates for the job :smuggo:

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
They should change the name of the podcast to cum town

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
cum town 2

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Bryter posted:

They should change the name of the podcast to cum town

Big Dick Cheney
Mar 30, 2007

Forums Terrorist posted:

listen to discourse collective

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Phone posted:

cum town 2

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~
Cum Town: Origins

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Forums Terrorist posted:

listen to discourse collective

I tried but the audio quality and what i felt as lack of excitement and personality turned me off.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
i listened to the DC with cutasterfee about his book but it wasn't really compelling. Are there any particularly good episodes?

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
you know as an Audio Guy it's really not that hard to get good audio for a podcast, and it's not that expensive and it's a little frustrating how common really terrible audio quality is in podcasts

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Bryter posted:

So then a doctor earning $200,000 a year is upper class? That seems weird to me, I think of the Vanderbilts or Kennedys or some other insanely wealthy and powerful clan of creeps when I think of an American upper class, not well paid professionals.

Doctors in America earn more money and have a lower standard of care than almost anywhere else in the world. In this country, with the way our health system works, if you're a doctor you probably are just a wealthy creep.

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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...



seriously, what's with all the bad analysis in this thread?

it's like y'all have never read about a class struggle, or like the means of production or something

Mr. Lobe fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 2, 2017

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