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twistedmentat posted:There's no way Fitz is going to go along with Aida is there? I honestly expected him to strangle her right then and there. Fitz having ANY coherent reaction right away would be asking a lot from him. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 18:45 on May 3, 2017 |
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May 3, 2017 18:57
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I love all the actors on this show, but if someone had to go, it's
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May 3, 2017 19:14
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After the credits from the last episode it'll pan back to the Russian submarine base, everything all poo poo and destroyed but then the darkhold device pops on and starts not 3d printing another citizen of the framework, who is it? Ward? Tripp? Mace 2.0? find out next season.
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May 3, 2017 19:39
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It's all of the people from the framework and it'll print out Hive 2.0
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May 3, 2017 19:45
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Mack is kind of in a poo poo spot, bring him back and he'll be destroyed more so than he is already because of his fake daughter, bring her back with the 3d printer and he gets his memories back and lives his whole life knowing that she is just some memory remnant created in a computer program, he can stay and be stuck in dreamworld which is what's happening now, or he can die, possibly while saving not hope, which I almost feel is the most humane way to end Mac's framework arc.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:After the credits from the last episode it'll pan back to the Russian submarine base, everything all poo poo and destroyed but then the darkhold device pops on and starts not 3d printing another citizen of the framework, who is it? Ward? Tripp? Mace 2.0? find out next season. This is very likely.
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Zebulon posted:Ghost Quake tagteam  Definitely hyped for where they go in the next episode though.
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May 3, 2017 21:11
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I'm glad I was right about Radcliffe playing the long game and only agreeing to help Fitz to get him out of the Framework. Also yeah, Daisy should've just said Mack didn't have a kid in the real world.
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May 3, 2017 21:55
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We don't have a thread for it yet of course but the first footage of Runaways is out. It's been a while since I read the book but everything in this looks exactly like it came right out of the first few issues. It's way more faithful looking that I'd have thought. http://screenrant.com/marvel-runaways-trailer-teaser-hulu/
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May 3, 2017 22:43
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Yakmouth posted:Do we have confirmation yet (one way or the other) on Runaways being part of the MCU? I'm honestly not sure how they could considering Ultron was around for only a very short time and likely didn't create a son but I suppose they could alter things accordingly. That comes a bit later anyhow. Also I believe the staff of one made an appearance in Doctor Strange, though that could be hand-waved as it got back around to where it needed to be.
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May 3, 2017 23:50
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I think it's safe to assume that any non-mutant-related Marvel show is confirmed to be a part of the MCU, at least technically. Even Cloak and Dagger -- which will be on Freeform next year -- explicitly shows Roxxon, which was a part of Agent Carter. I'm sure Runaways will have that kind of stuff too. As to how much it'll actually cross over to other shows, set expectations at ground level or lower. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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BrianWilly posted:I think it's safe to assume that any non-mutant-related Marvel show is confirmed to be a part of the MCU, at least technically. Even Cloak and Dagger -- which will be on Freeform next year -- explicitly shows Roxxon, which was a part of Agent Carter. I'm sure Runaways will have that kind of stuff too.
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RareAcumen posted:Also yeah, Daisy should've just said Mack didn't have a kid in the real world. Nah, she should have just straight up lied and said she was waiting for her on the other side and would be missing her dad. She can apologise later, the priority is to get him the gently caress out.
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Daisy definitely should have gotten Mack out no matter what. Just a few minutes before they were talking about how Aida was about to get out and could then shut down the framework at any time since she got what she wanted. The framework can still go at any time, and there's no way it's going to get left on forever. Remember that it's basically worldwide malware in the real world. The accumulated power and computational resource drain to run a fully simulated world would be incalculably huge, and once it's eventually discovered there's no way people are going to just let it run because someone is worried that MMO NPCs might have feelings.
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Robot Hobo posted:On top of the emotional turmoil from good Fitz having to deal with what he became in VR, he's also got two full relationships with AIDA/Ophelia to deal with. She's his superior and lover, but she's also his creation and responsibility. It would be very much like he woke up and realized he's been banging his own emotionally disturbed daughter. I was thinking it would be more of an emotional, feral response to her rather than something that he actually chooses to do. Man that Runaways looks great. Molly has a hat, and the effects on Karolina's hands look really cool.
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They have full control of the submarine and the framework now. There's no reason someone can't roll in and tell Mack "Hey we can 3D print your little girl now." Then they just have to go to Ophelia's hospital room. Plus Skye can hack it and tell them exactly where it is.
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Sammus posted:They have full control of the submarine and the framework now. There's no reason someone can't roll in and tell Mack "Hey we can 3D print your little girl now." Then they just have to go to Ophelia's hospital room. Plus Skye can hack it and tell them exactly where it is. Next week's preview shows the sub is going to be busted up pretty soon.
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I really only feel like bringing back Ward would work. with Hope or Tripp it'd be like making a robot of them with similar personalities, close but not the same and everyone would know it, or at least they should. Mace would be okay because they scanned his brain so technically if they could bring him back he would still be mace just in a super body, but ward is, gently caress ward, that guy was a dick, and his framework half is awesome, and who cares if he's effectively an artificial construct because gently caress old Ward. Plus all the hilarity of him being back so he could infiltrate the bad guys acting like evil Ward or Hive.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:I really only feel like bringing back Ward would work. with Hope or Tripp it'd be like making a robot of them with similar personalities, close but not the same and everyone would know it, or at least they should. Mace would be okay because they scanned his brain so technically if they could bring him back he would still be mace just in a super body, but ward is, gently caress ward, that guy was a dick, and his framework half is awesome, and who cares if he's effectively an artificial construct because gently caress old Ward. Plus all the hilarity of him being back so he could infiltrate the bad guys acting like evil Ward or Hive. 
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Yakmouth posted:Do we have confirmation yet (one way or the other) on Runaways being part of the MCU? Nico's mom had an unnamed cameo in Dr Strange so maybe. Edit: misread the article. It's a new actress Edmund Lava fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 4, 2017 |
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Edmund Lava posted:Nico's mom had an unnamed cameo in Dr Strange with he same actress playing her in the show, so yes. Same actress, you're sure? I was positive that Tina Minoru had been recast.
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Yakmouth posted:Same actress, you're sure? Yeah I was wrong on that. Edmund Lava fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 4, 2017 |
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I think it means that replacing the real Tripp is worse because the real Tripp was a good dude and you're effectively just messing with the memory of a good person. Replacing the old Ward isn't so much a moral quandary because "gently caress old Ward." I'm not sure I agree either way but I get what 4000 Dollar Suit is saying. X-O fucked around with this message at 03:36 on May 4, 2017 |
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X-O posted:I think it means that replacing the real Tripp is worse because the real Tripp was a good dude and you're effectively just messing with the memory of a good person. Replacing the old Ward isn't so much a moral quandary because "gently caress old Ward." I'm not sure I agree either way but I get what 4000 Dollar Suit is saying. this guy gets it.
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May 4, 2017 03:50
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Oh, just do like Stargate Atlantis, admit you made a mistake in killing a good character, and bring Tripp back. I don't care if it's as a clone or as an android or just continued as a presence in the Framework.
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Make another Fitz and stuff The Doctor's personality into him so that Fitz can actually, physically, literally kill that side of himself.
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Chortles posted:The term is Quakerider It should be Daisy and Mack they could call them Quack
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Jusupov posted:
Mohinder was holding the door shut in those lovely heroes episodeS. It happened twice. (once during the "dark alternate future" episode in late season 1, and again towards the end of season 3)
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Chokes McGee posted:It should be Daisy and Mack Wasn't that what the Quake/Black Widow slashfic pairing was called w hen it came up at the beginning of the season?
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bbf2 posted:Mohinder was holding the door shut in those lovely heroes episodeS. It happened twice. (once during the "dark alternate future" episode in late season 1, and again towards the end of season 3) The season 1 time would've been fine if it was saving the battle for the finale, it's only after that poo poo that it becomes bad.
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Apoplexy posted:Oh, just do like Stargate Atlantis, admit you made a mistake in killing a good character, and bring Tripp back. I don't care if it's as a clone or as an android or just continued as a presence in the Framework. It's his twin brother, Trapp
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So seasons 3 and then 2 are down, I figured I'd re-watch S4 from the start again and, man, I think they actually really did up their game for this season. In particular, the writing. A lot of good quippy exchanges that're genuinely funny, like when Fitz and Mack were talking about how a flaming skull would be helpful during a blackout and they both agreed to Coulson that he should be glad he wasn't there to see it first-hand. And Early AIDA was awesome, she was just so kind and helpful and naive. Sad that she becomes literally the most hateable bad guy in the series' run.
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The MSJ posted:If he's a clone, than he would be Triipp It's agent Triplett, there have to be three of him.
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X-O posted:We don't have a thread for it yet of course but the first footage of Runaways is out. It's been a while since I read the book but everything in this looks exactly like it came right out of the first few issues. It's way more faithful looking that I'd have thought. There's only one Runaway that matters 
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Like, we've spent this whole time wrestling with the question of how real these people in the Framework are. Its not really Daisy's place to decide for Mack that Hope isn't real and rob him of that choice. Its tragic to give Mack that choice but it would be cruel and unfair to not. I've argued that Hope isn't Mack's real world Hope but that doesn't mean she isn't Mack's OTHER daughter. That poo poo's way more complicated. And its not like he has to be gone forever. The Framework is there and they have his body. They could theoretically go back in and talk this out. Kheldarn posted:Why do they have to exit the Framework via the Portal? We've seen AIDA wake Radcliffe up with no ill effects. I mean, other than PLOT REASONS? You can wake them up from the outside (which is what the agents want to do to wake up Daisy and Jemma) but they don't have access to the rest of the team. If they could find them and get in without any problems they would. But they're wanted fugitives besides other stuff. Phylodox posted:Fitz didn't say "I think I'm a bad person now." Yeah. Fitz isn't just wrestling with the poo poo he did, he's wrestling with the fact that he was capable of doing it just because of who he was raised by. Its "nature vs nurture" stuff. Its pretty hosed up if you knew you could be a completely different person capable of doing things you think are evil if a few things had just worked out differently. Everyone else had their natures stay mostly the same. Caulson, May, Mack, and Mace all ultimately chose to be good people. Fitz was a psycho. That will gently caress with you. Plus there's all the leftover feelings towards Ophelia. edit: I just rewatched and I definitely think that's the Gordon effects on the teleporting. Aida downloaded super inhuman DNA into her body! STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 09:43 on May 4, 2017 |
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hiddenriverninja posted:Will Fitz build the teleport trap net like he did in season 2? That was my favourite bit of quipping, because it felt like an irreverent little exchange between friends, and not some schizophrenic banter like in AoU. Fitz: :....and that'll stop him teleporting Mack: Now why didn't I think of that. Fitz: It's okay, you've been busy. And you're not a quantum physicist 
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