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Pissflaps posted:These meltdowns over an utterly unsurprising turn of events are baffling. Eh, the results today was completely unsurprising, but despite that I'm genuinely angry with Corbyn and his gang of wreckers for the first time since the aftermath of the EU referendum. I guess after that point I (a pre-Corbyn Labour member) sort of gave up, but now the all too obvious consequences are coming clear, yeah I'm angry. I suppose if I had been for Corbyn the thin sliver of hope that I'd no doubt be holding onto would have disappeared this morning.
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Darth Walrus posted:Again, you can see something coming and still be upset about it because people you care about are very likely to die. When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 5, 2017 13:32
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peanut- posted:How many crippling election defeats is it going to take before you lot stop being furious at pissflaps for being right about Corbyn. https://twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/860411007243563008
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May 5, 2017 13:34
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Pissflaps posted:When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments. How does the Lib Dems losing ground fit into your narrative? You wanted Labour to be more pro-Remain. The centrist pro-remain party isn't doing any better? Isn't he fact of the matter that a lot of people want a right wing Brexit and that's what they're voting for?
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May 5, 2017 13:35
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jBrereton posted:Maybe a more reflective headcase would consider that someone largely liked by people like them was not representative of the aspirations of the country as a whole. Tyrrany of the extrovert majority all over again, then.
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May 5, 2017 13:37
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GaussianCopula posted:It's amazing that the UK still votes for the party that brought them Brexit - One can only imagine how lovely all the other parties must be. Spoiler: people voted for brexit and are therefore quite keen on a party that will give them a red, white and blue full English brexit
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peanut- posted:How many crippling election defeats is it going to take before you lot stop being furious at pissflaps for being right about Corbyn. Because at no point, ever has there ever been any indication that anyone else would have been an improvement. Also the whole aforementioned fact that Corbyn has the gall to say that cutting services that leads to people dying is actually bad, instead of shuffling his feet and mumbling about "responsible government" or some poo poo like a good little liberal.
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May 5, 2017 13:39
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Pissflaps posted:When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments. Dude. Stop.
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Darth Walrus posted:Dude. Stop. Yeah, it's just flabbergasting callousness. vvv: Yeah and that one's just straight flabbergasting.
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May 5, 2017 13:39
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UKIP actually gained a seat. https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860465132333412354 Edit: Better result for Labour I guess https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860473479984021504
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This is a bad enough morning without people responding to flaps. Labour might have made some progress with a leader willing to promise not to fix anything and who got in bed with the papers but every party apart from the Strong and Stable leadership got destroyed which was a totally predictable outcome given the media narrative surrounding this election.
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May 5, 2017 13:41
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Looks like Labour will take West Midlands mayor comfortably. Tees Valley is likely to be affected by the Con candidate having the very popular policy of taking the local airport into public ownership, ironically. Stuff like this annoys me. Overall the Lib Dems have failed to recover from a massive collapse in 2015, Labour are down a few percent in vote share since the Brown/Milliband days, and UKIP has gone from 22% to 3%. Labour are the only opposition party whose vote share hasn't 'collapsed' recently. Our lovely political system simply rewards the Tories massively for uniting the right wing. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 5, 2017 |
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peanut- posted:How many crippling election defeats is it going to take before you lot stop being furious at pissflaps for being right about Corbyn. Not his fault that the entirety of GB is full of people from both aisles who are completely delusional about Brexit. It’s going to take real, serious economic consequences, coming from Brexit, for the average working man before there is ever a chance for May to get deposed. The Lib Dem policy of holding another referendum is retarded and shows the kind of mental gymnastics the center-left is going through at the moment.
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May 5, 2017 13:47
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https://twitter.com/itnsourcenews/status/860446858883321856 50 is about 100? Abbott must be an engineer.
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May 5, 2017 13:47
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Pissflaps posted:Holy gently caress Nuke everything. Seriously how the gently caress can Middlesbrough, Redcar, Stockton etc vote Tory.
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May 5, 2017 13:48
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Is that West Midlands mayoral election result correct and is it the same electorate as the West Midlands EU Parliament seat? Because wtf if so.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Is that West Midlands mayoral election result correct and is it the same electorate as the West Midlands EU Parliament seat? Because wtf if so. e: Metro area vs. region Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 13:51
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ukle posted:Nuke everything. Seriously how the gently caress can Middlesbrough, Redcar, Stockton etc vote Tory. How do you normally get the poor to vote against their own best interests?
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May 5, 2017 13:52
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GaussianCopula posted:It's amazing that the UK still votes for the party that brought them Brexit - One can only imagine how lovely all the other parties must be. gently caress off Nazi
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May 5, 2017 13:52
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Gort posted:How do you normally get the poor to vote against their own best interests? There is no optimistic outcome to Brexit and people are clinging to whatever notion tells them other
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May 5, 2017 13:54
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jabby posted:If the most recent opinion polls are right the vote share for Labour will be broadly similar as under Ed Miliband, although obviously polls aren't especially reliable. The vote share change in England so far in these local elections is -2% for Labour. I reckon labour should be improving their vote share given the opportunities to do so and the fact that the pm this time round is far less charismatic.
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May 5, 2017 14:00
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If this abject display of abuse, excuses and self denial is the result of a bad night of local election results i dread to think what will happen on the night of the general election.
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learnincurve posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/9df67e0e-cf05-4eaa-91ce-0f5527e97d14/derbyshire-county-council Well then. Labour hosed level at maximum.
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May 5, 2017 14:00
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ukle posted:Nuke everything. Seriously how the gently caress can Middlesbrough, Redcar, Stockton etc vote Tory. Brexit. Redcar and Cleveland: 66.2% Leave Middlesbrough: 65.5% Leave Stockton-on-Tees: 61.7% Leave Hartlepool: 69.6% Leave Darlington: 56.2% Leave
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Gort posted:How do you normally get the poor to vote against their own best interests? Normally you'd unite them against foreigners or some kind of other... Oh.
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May 5, 2017 14:02
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jabby posted:Looks like Labour will take West Midlands mayor comfortably. https://twitter.com/golledge_star/status/860477581812002816
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Pissflaps posted:When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments.
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Benjamin Arthur posted:Nobody believes you give the slightest gently caress beyond its relevence to your online attention seeking Every single one of your posts in this thread are about or to me.
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Pissflaps posted:Every single one of your posts in this thread are about or to me. You're a narcissist who posts in this thread a hundred times a day to feed. You should be thanking me.
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/itnsourcenews/status/860446858883321856 This is hilarious. How do you gently caress up so bad in only 32 seconds? AP fucked around with this message at 14:10 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 14:08
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My sister asked me to write an as unbiased as possible overview of Tories vs Labour policies as she doesn't have a clue and wants to understand them better. How does this look goons? Emphasis on trying to write this as unbiased as possible and saying what each side believes rather than what I or she should believe. Have I missed anything obvious? Made any glaring factual errors? Firstly Brexit - you probably shouldn't make Brexit your main voting factor. Both the main parties support Brexit, and while on rhetoric Conservatives favour a "harder" Brexit than Labour, it's not possible to predict this far out what the negotiation results will be. These are very general outlines and don't necessarily reflect the specific policies, but give an outline of each party's views towards the main issues. Conservatives Traditionally, the Conservative ideology is about tradition, order, hierarchy. It emphasises ambition and personal responsibility. It believes in Capitalism with minimal regulation (workers rights, environment, etc), with the money earned by large corporations trickling down to the population. Low taxes, with low Government spending & minimal Gov support/intervention. Some general views: - Welfare should only be available to those who most need it. The small amount of abusers should be avoided by placing the burden on claimants to prove they need it. - Public services (trains, NHS etc) are often best run for profit by corporations. This introduces efficiencies and reduces the taxpayer cost. - National security is usually more important than personal privacy, and certain human rights. - Low taxes, esp for the rich and corporations, attract wealth to the country which "trickles down" to the population (via salaries, etc) and benefits the economy. - Class and demographic privelege is over-exaggerated. Anyone with enough ambition and effort can become rich and successful. Poverty is largely the individual's fault. - Immigration should only be available to a select few who have the skills or money to benefit the economy and society. - Selective education (grammar schools) provides the best kids with the means to realise their potential. Labour In general, the Labour ideology is about rights for the population, fairness, empowerment. It emphasises equality, and believes state-provided services and welfare are important to lift people out of poverty. It still believes in a Capitalist market, but with greater emphasis on regulation (e.g. workers rights, environmental, etc) and redistribution, with progessive taxes (i.e. higher for rich/corporations) funding better public services. Some general views: - Welfare should be there for those that need it. They should not have to go through the stress of proving themselves, even if this means a small minority are able to abuse the system. - For-profit public services (trains, power, etc) are abused by corporations, who care little about the public. The CEOs and stakeholders cut services to increase profits, while raising the cost (e.g. tickets) to the public. Public services (rail, health, etc) should be Government run and have greater funding. - The unregulated capitalist market disproportionately benefits the already-rich, making them richer and more powerful. The "trickle down" effect is a lie - the rich get richer and accumulate the wealth, with benefit on paper to the economy, but no real benefit to the population and working class. Greater emphasis on supporting small businesses, rather than large corporations. - Those from under-privileged backgrounds should be put on an equal footing with those that are naturally advantaged (through class, inherited wealth, etc). This starts at school. Poverty is largely the fault of under privilege and lack of opportunity and support. - Traditionally more open to immigration than Conservatives (except in 2010 campaign), although have not made clear their stance these days. - Selective education (grammar schools) is skewed towards the rich, white middle classes, and will increase the gap between them and kids from under privileged backgrounds. Money should be invested into the wider state school system. Ewan fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 14:10
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Benjamin Arthur posted:You're a narcissist who posts in this thread a hundred times a day to feed. You should be thanking me. Thank you for registering an account just to talk about me.
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May 5, 2017 14:11
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https://twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/860418712687583234 Guess I'm not British.
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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/860481281829859328 https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/860481536981954560
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Pissflaps posted:Thank you for registering an account just to talk about me. You're very welcome. I could happy feed your narcissistic personality disorder in exchange for you no longer trolling people who are worried about suicidal/disabled friends or family dying by repeatedly insisting that its their fault. e- as someone whos been in that boat before, your insistence to keep trolling on that point really demonstrates what a vile little poo poo of a man you are.
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